Dino Babers hopes fans will support Syracuse football; will you go to the games? (poll)

[Trueblue25]

You know, the more I think about this with the young professionals moving into revitalized downtown complexes, that should probably be a core focus.

I never thought that reducing the pricing model was the golden ticket, but with the younger generation struggling to afford rent maybe it’s something they look into to get them involved.

I’d be looking for introductions to the property developers at the larger apartment complexes. Having a ticket deal for all of your tenants puts it right in front of their faces when they get home at night.

I’d be looking for introductions to the property developers at the larger apartment complexes. Having a ticket deal for all of your tenants put it right in front of their faces when they get home at night.

I’m obviously just spit firing, morning musings.

Its absolutely a great pipeline. Lower ticket prices, have another armory square rally. Im one of those kids.


Hell, have the next rally at Colemans before the weather gets awful. You know how many people my age come a running when we here “day party at colemans”?

 

[HRE Otto IV]

I predict over 40k for UNC, over 42K for NC State, over 40K for Louisville.

 

[Eric15]

It's the reason why games against Rutgers/Temple from 1980's through 2004 typically drew 36k regardless of how good SU's record was.

This is every SU home game vs Rutgers or Temple from 1988-1999. All over 40k except one, and many 48-49k crowds.

1988 Temple: 41,727
1988 Rutgers: 48,798
1990 Temple: 38,925
1990 Rutgers: 49,521
1991 Temple: 46,819
1992 Rutgers: 49,124
1993 Temple: 48,949
1994 Rutgers: 44,925
1995 Temple: 40,646
1996 Rutgers: 48,112
1997 Temple: 47,720
1998 Rutgers: 42,716
1999 Temple: 43,970

 

[ForCuseSake]

This is every SU home game vs Rutgers or Temple from 1988-1999. All over 40k except one, and many 48-49k crowds.

1988 Temple: 41,727
1988 Rutgers: 48,798
1990 Temple: 38,925
1990 Rutgers: 49,521
1991 Temple: 46,819
1992 Rutgers: 49,124
1993 Temple: 48,949
1994 Rutgers: 44,925
1995 Temple: 40,646
1996 Rutgers: 48,112
1997 Temple: 47,720
1998 Rutgers: 42,716
1999 Temple: 43,970

Thanks for fact checking the attendance figures. I said Temple & Rutgers when I meant them as general examples of traditionally bad programs/brands.

Look at our attendance figures in that period for national powerhouses like East Carolina (albeit a loss), Eastern Michigan, etc.

Our undefeated 1987 season we opened with 35k against Maryland and had 33k against Miami (OH) a few weeks later.

 

[bnoro]

Id argue this is a direct result of uninspiring marketing efforts. People my age know basketball because of melo and the great teams since. No one my age has known good football at cuse or would know to look. Marketing needs to be better and aimed at young families and young professionals.

Marketing aimed at 'young families and young professionals'

You realize that the biggest problem most industries have faced is how to market to these people? You know, the ones that are digitally saturated and have absolutely zero attention span. How are you going to market to them?

Digitally? I have 3 adblockers, I haven't seen an ad on my computer in years.
Billboards? Come on, what a waste of money
TV ads? I'm changing the channel or I already cut the cord and stream everything without local ads
Print? LOLOL

Organic buzz and winning is how the dome will get filled. Blaming marketing is such a cliche in every industry.

 

[qdawgg]

The leaves aren’t going anywhere...

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I never understood raking leaves. Why? I just mow the out of them. Well technically, the high school kid down the street mows the out of them and hopefully some blow on the neighbors lawn. But why rake them?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Marketing aimed at 'young families and young professionals'

You realize that the biggest problem most industries have faced is how to market to these people? You know, the ones that are digitally saturated and have absolutely zero attention span. How are you going to market to them?

Digitally? I have 3 adblockers, I haven't seen an ad on my computer in years.
Billboards? Come on, what a waste of money
TV ads? I'm changing the channel or I already cut the cord and stream everything without local ads
Print? LOLOL

Organic buzz and winning is how the dome will get filled. Blaming marketing is such a cliche in every industry.

I could market to you.

You don't escape me.

Nobody I want to market to escapes me.

 

[Trueblue25]

Marketing aimed at 'young families and young professionals'

You realize that the biggest problem most industries have faced is how to market to these people? You know, the ones that are digitally saturated and have absolutely zero attention span. How are you going to market to them?

Digitally? I have 3 adblockers, I haven't seen an ad on my computer in years.
Billboards? Come on, what a waste of money
TV ads? I'm changing the channel or I already cut the cord and stream everything without local ads
Print? LOLOL

Organic buzz and winning is how the dome will get filled. Blaming marketing is such a cliche in every industry.

Lazy. People still watch the news and sportscenter. Bilboards on 690, where tens of thousands drive every single day, should be a minimum. Its an extra 5-10,000 the university’s trying to grab, not an underground civilization of south park crab people.

Hell, send a ticket distributor to wegmans in dewitt.

We’re a 4-1 ACC school, with an apparent albeit impossible longshot heisman candidate. There’s a lot of things they could do. The downtown block party was genius. Now do it at colemans on tipp, where everyone is on friday nights, before UNC.

 

[SmilinBob]

Lazy. People still watch the news and sportscenter. Bilboards on 690, where tens of thousands drive every single day, should be a minimum. Its an extra 5-10,000 the university’s trying to grab, not an underground civilization of south park crab people.

Hell, send a ticket distributor to wegmans in dewitt.

We’re a 4-1 ACC school, with an apparent albeit impossible longshot heisman candidate. There’s a lot of things they could do. The downtown block party was genius. Now do it at colemans on tipp, where everyone is on friday nights, before UNC.

Kiosks for tickets?

 

[Trueblue25]

Kiosks for tickets?

Not necessarily a kiosk, maybe as simple as a dome sales rep/someone going there on a sunday night prior to game week and selling tickets surrounded by the orange gear wegmans sells, orange octoberfest and a plethora of tailgate related foods. Just something interesting. Less a kiosk and more a showing of “here’s an idea, you could tailgate and go to A syracuse football game this weekend, for a reasonable price”

 

[Trueblue25]

How do we market an ACC football program in 2018 then? We have an exciting ESPN famous coach. We have a web gem QB. We have a dome everyone in CNY knows about. We’re 4-1. Maybe bnoro’s rigbht about ads/bilboards being a waste of time. I think there’s clear public watering holes that’re set for outreach though.


Looking at instagram pages for the football teams, we have the lowest followers between us, rutgers, pitt, duke, unc, UL etc.

Instagrams probably the only social media platform for consistent adveritising/marketing thats worthwhile imo. And before people say who cares, we have 25,000 people following that page. At this point, it may be the outlet the most people see orange football related clippings from.

 

[JeffCuse]

FWIW- Nick Saban is apparently hot and bothered by students not showing up for an 11am game against Louisiana Lafayette.

Saban calls out Tide students for not showing up

This is a school that averaged over 100K fans last year. And he is complaining. Wow.

 

[ForCuseSake]

Now do it at colemans on tipp, where everyone is on friday nights, before UNC.

As the son of an Irish immigrant, Coleman’s blows. And from a former Eastwood/Northsider I can guarantee you everyone is NOT there on a Friday night.

(Now get off my lawn)

 

[SmilinBob]

FWIW- Nick Saban is apparently hot and bothered by students not showing up for an 11am game against Louisiana Lafayette.

Saban calls out Tide students for not showing up

He probably has an attendance clause in his contract.

 

[Trueblue25]

As the son of an Irish immigrant, Coleman’s blows. And from a former Eastwood/Northsider I can guarantee you everyone is NOT there on a Friday night.

(Now get off my lawn)

Everyone my age is on tipp or in armory, on the other side of the city from east side lawns. If coleman’s announced something outside in their concert/lot, hundreds/thousands come..

 

[JeffCuse]

He probably has an attendance clause in his contract.

As a Patriots fan who has seen Belichick a lot, it stuns me they are good friends. Belichick could two shits about things like this.

 

[SmilinBob]

As a Patriots fan who has seen Belichick a lot, it stuns me they are good friends. Belichick could two shits about things like this.

That's because Belichick is actually an AI.

True but college and pro is quite different as having a student section for the actual people that live there and go to that school is a completely different bird.

 

[rjs13090]

The first Cuse football game I ever went to was two years ago at Uconn. The first home game I went to was last year. I am getting tickets for UNC. My wife doesn’t know it yet; but I’m probably purchasing tickets to all three.

It's been a long time. When fans come back, it will be a different gameday. The noise can be deafening. we're closer. my 14 year old granddaughter said " It's like basketball' Keep winning, fill the dome, support Dino

 

[Eric15]

FWIW- Nick Saban is apparently hot and bothered by students not showing up for an 11am game against Louisiana Lafayette.

Saban calls out Tide students for not showing up

This is a school that averaged over 100K fans last year. And he is complaining. Wow.

Some Bama player tweeted a picture of the Penn State white-out from Saturday night with the caption "it must be nice to have fans that show up."

Because an 11 am kickoff against Louisiana-Lafayette is the same as Penn State's biggest home game of the decade in primetime.

 

[SmilinBob]

Some Bama player tweeted a picture of the Penn State white-out from Saturday night with the caption "it must be nice to have fans that show up."

Because an 11 am kickoff against Louisiana-Lafayette is the same as Penn State's biggest home game of the decade in primetime.

The players must have an attendance clause in their contract too.

 

[RCDICK44]

Aint it funny how parking doesn’t seem to affect Basketball season? Or Monster Jam? I’m so sick of that arguement.

For Basketball and Monster jam you don;t have more than 35000 fans. Doesn't even equate. If your looking for larger crowds,black out the games locally within a given distance.

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

Some Bama player tweeted a picture of the Penn State white-out from Saturday night with the caption "it must be nice to have fans that show up."

Because an 11 am kickoff against Louisiana-Lafayette is the same as Penn State's biggest home game of the decade in primetime.

Such an entitled attitude.

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

Marketing aimed at 'young families and young professionals'

You realize that the biggest problem most industries have faced is how to market to these people? You know, the ones that are digitally saturated and have absolutely zero attention span. How are you going to market to them?

Digitally? I have 3 adblockers, I haven't seen an ad on my computer in years.
Billboards? Come on, what a waste of money
TV ads? I'm changing the channel or I already cut the cord and stream everything without local ads
Print? LOLOL

Organic buzz and winning is how the dome will get filled. Blaming marketing is such a cliche in every industry.

I'm not a marketing guy, nor am i terribly susceptible to marketing (at least that's what i think). I have found that billboards actually do tend to stoke my interest or curiosity. It's basically the only advertising I cannot tune-out.

There is a lot to the doing what others do of course (herd mentality), but with me, it's more a matter of people i respect who buy-in. Don Draper said once on Mad Men that celebrity endorsements are lazy. That's probably true. But when I see someone i respect seemingly using something organically, that means something to me. For example, I was reading some article on a travel website (Travel & Leisure maybe) where Anthony Bourdain was being interviewed about what he never travels without - I take him as an aficionado in this realm. When he mentioned a light weight down jacket (very trendy right now), I took notice on his show, did some research, and now I am in the process of getting one. How do you get that to translate into getting more fans in the seats?

 

[bnoro]

I'm not a marketing guy, nor am i terribly susceptible to marketing (at least that's what i think). I have found that billboards actually do tend to stoke my interest or curiosity. It's basically the only advertising I cannot tune-out.

There is a lot to the doing what others do of course (herd mentality), but with me, it's more a matter of people i respect who buy-in. Don Draper said once on Mad Men that celebrity endorsements are lazy. That's probably true. But when I see someone i respect seemingly using something organically, that means something to me. For example, I was reading some article on a travel website (Travel & Leisure maybe) where Anthony Bourdain was being interviewed about what he never travels without - I take him as an aficionado in this realm. When he mentioned a light weight down jacket (very trendy right now), I took notice on his show, did some research, and now I am in the process of getting one. How do you get that to translate into getting more fans in the seats?

Influencer marketing is huge right now, especially with the younger crowd, because it makes whatever that person is doing the cool event in town. The issue is there aren't really those celebrities in Syracuse that will do that. If we were able to get some famous alumni back in the area with big social media followings, it would be more effective than a 30 second spot on the local news.

 

[SmilinBob]

Free stuff and cleaver cell phone apps and the like will help get that young crowd in along with making it a harder ticket due to winning games.