DO article on Recruiting

[CuseRunner]

He sounds so thin-skinned in that video. This is the same guy who just said last month that he doesn't care what anyone says?

He is defending himself and his program.

 

[cuseguy]

The DO article is a lot of trash. Amateur hour by a novice college student. He had a predetermined narrative, found a few good quotes and built a story around it.

 

[SUbear]

Syracuse = Middle of nowhere.

Yes, because Lawrence, Kan.; Spokane, Wash.; Morgantown, W.Va.; Blacksburg, Va.; Lubbock, Texas; Ames, Iowa; West Lafayette, Ind.; Tuscaloosa, Ala.; Bloomington, Ind.; Eugene, Ore.; Pullman, Wash.; Starkville, Miss.; Clemson, S.C.; Waco, Texas; Auburn, Ala.; Lexington, Ky.; Corvallis, Ore.; Oxford, Miss.; Happy Valley, Pa.; and Tallahassee, Fla. are each hubs of modern civilization.

Sh|t, at least we have a Triple-A team, right?

Not to mention South Bend, a true hole in the middle of nowhere Indiana.

 

[orange79]

I wonder if it was a sorry that I disappointed you and didn't come to Syracuse. Or I'm sorry I regret not coming it was a bad decision.

Yes

 

[gmacfor3]

This is completely untrue. I obviously don’t know the conversations between Isaiah and JB, but I do know that Isaiah made up his mind days before his announcement, and SU was never at the top of his list.

 

[Tobias Funke]

This is completely untrue. I obviously don’t know the conversations between Isaiah and JB, but I do know that Isaiah made up his mind days before his announcement, and SU was never at the top of his list.

So if the kid told JB he was coming despite having decided days before it could still be true. The kids decision and what he told JB may not be correlated. Some kids are afraid to disappoint.

 

[gmacfor3]

So if the kid told JB he was coming despite having decided days before it could still be true. The kids decision and what he told JB may not be correlated. Some kids are afraid to disappoint.

You very well may be correct. JB said on Axe’s show today that Isaiah told him this info this past summer, so he very well may have just been saying that to make an uncomfortable convo less uncomfortable.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Sidibe is 100% folks lol.

Boeheim sez things.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

The DO article is a lot of trash. Amateur hour by a novice college student. He had a predetermined narrative, found a few good quotes and built a story around it.

So, like, pretty much the go-to tactic for anyone posting on our board?

 

[orangepassion]

Sidibe is 100% folks lol.

I heard Onuaku might be back in time for this year's Tournament

 

[Cusesky8214]

Few thoughts

Jim hears/reads EVERYTHING.

I think he made some excellent points about center play in college basketball (Houston/Baylor) and overall center play. I do think our issues are mostly not having any beef but that wasn't addressed. His take was about having centers that produce offense and developing.

Jimmy has to be coming to cuse. He mentions waiting on others (Griffin/Braswell) and that Quincy's decision doesn't matter.

We will see Jimmy at the 5 sometimes from the comments made about playing 3 forwards.

Bourama is starting.

 

[SUFan44]

Just as many said;

“Many in and around Syracuse basketball’s program told The D.O. that recruiting has taken a dip in the last five years partially because of Hopkins’ departure. Sanctions on the program, early departures from players turning pro and the potential of a new coach all played a role as well.”

Ok - "partially" and "all played a role" is not carte blanche to use this as an excuse anymore.

 

[SUFan44]

"Jerami Grant was a Top 150 player" LOL wrong

Jerami Grant - Basketball Recruiting - Player Profiles - ESPN

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"Symir Torrence is a really, really good player"

Why didn't you offer him out of high school then, Coach?

 

[PauliePeppas]

"Jerami Grant was a Top 150 player" LOL wrong

Jerami Grant - Basketball Recruiting - Player Profiles - ESPN

Learn about Jerami Grant and other recruit player profiles on RecruitingNation.com.

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"Symir Torrence is a really, really good player"

Why didn't you offer him out of high school then, Coach?

he did offer

 

[Cusesky8214]

"Jerami Grant was a Top 150 player" LOL wrong

Jerami Grant - Basketball Recruiting - Player Profiles - ESPN

Learn about Jerami Grant and other recruit player profiles on RecruitingNation.com.

www.espn.com

"Symir Torrence is a really, really good player"

Why didn't you offer him out of high school then, Coach?

We did offer him. We held off for awhile but we did end up offering.

 

[SUFan44]

he did offer

I stand corrected.

He was offered. I really wonder how much of a priority he was.

 

[PauliePeppas]

I stand corrected.

He was offered. I really wonder how much of a priority he was.

Not a priority at all...It was at the wayyyy end of the cycle and both Symir and the staff knew it wasnt happening.

 

[721Comstock]

I stand corrected.

He was offered. I really wonder how much of a priority he was.

We had several other guards in the same class - JGIII and Goodine.
With Carey & HoWash already on campus.

This is like the "but why didn't we offer Jimmer??" thing -
we already had Jonny AND Scoop.

 

[SUFan44]

We had several other guards in the same class - JGIII and Goodine.
With Carey & HoWash already on campus.

This is like the "but why didn't we offer Jimmer??" thing -
we already had Jonny AND Scoop.

So he wasn't good enough then, with two players who have shown to be 1) at best, average through 2 years and 2) not good enough to play at the ACC level or Big East level, and yet something has changed this time around. He's now a "very, very good player"?

Sorry. Boeheim's full of it. The recruit was convenient. Hope I'm wrong and he kills it. But it was easy and he wanted to take pressure of his third son.

 

[721Comstock]

So he wasn't good enough then, with two players who have shown to be 1) at best, average through 2 years and 2) not good enough to play at the ACC level or Big East level, and yet something has changed this time around. He's now a "very, very good player"?

Sorry. Boeheim's full of it. The recruit was convenient. Hope I'm wrong and he kills it. But it was easy and he wanted to take pressure of his third son.

I don't know if it was a function of "good enough", or not - but we had the other guys signed already.

Just like with Jonny & Scoop.

You can't take them all.

 

[RF2044]

I don't know if it was a function of "good enough", or not - but we had the other guys signed already.

Just like with Jonny & Scoop.

You can't take them all.

AND recruiting is a two way street. Just because you offer somebody doesn't mean that they'll come to your school, even when they are prospects from the program's "back yard." We all know that modern recruiting is about players looking for the best path to PT.

I'm sure that Torrence didn't envision Carey [a highly rated recruit] flopping, Goodine not panning out, etc. What he was probably looking at was an extremely crowded backcourt depth chart -- which prompted him to opt for another program.

BTW, not suggesting that Symir is going to step right in and be a good performer -- who knows. He was behind a stud at Marquette, but his statistics [not the entire measure of a player's worth] aren't confidence inspiring. But I wouldn't dismiss him as a poor "get" based only on that -- he's an experienced player coming from a good conference -- let's see how he performs in practice before writing him off.

 

[Day2]

So he wasn't good enough then, with two players who have shown to be 1) at best, average through 2 years and 2) not good enough to play at the ACC level or Big East level, and yet something has changed this time around. He's now a "very, very good player"?

Sorry. Boeheim's full of it. The recruit was convenient. Hope I'm wrong and he kills it. But it was easy and he wanted to take pressure of his third son.

It has nothing to do with talent. There wasn’t any room for him.

And you’re conveniently using hindsight to make your argument.

 

[sdorange]

Geez the pitchforks are out. JB should go radio silent like another prominent SU septuagenarian

 

[Cuseball]

Bourama Sidibe as well...

Jalen Carey too

 

[Sherman20]

"Going to play in the middle of nowhere New York is not what it was 25 years ago."

I take offense to that statement

What has changed?

Were we in the middle of somewhere 25 years ago? Syracuse area is as good now as it has ever been!

What a dumb comment/quote. You could say that about most schools. Has anyone ever been to Storrs f(&;$:!ing Connecticut? Now that place is in the middle of nowhere. How about Lubbock Texas in the godforsaken wasteland of West Texas?