E.D. Cleared to Practice Doubtful to play

[dasher]

Ok, thats fair. He may have been told by someone who lied to him. It was incorrect and got a lot of people excited about nothing.

Why stick with the word lie. maybe someone told him that in good faith. You want to accuse others of lying. Very poor form on your part.

 

[Cuseregular]

i'm still upset about shamarko thomas getting obvious concussions and staying in the game.

if we're going to watch this barbaric disgusting sport the least we can do is err on the side of extreme caution on something that looks pretty obvious to everyone

I said this in another place that the one thing I agree with Bud is is that this GD sport eats it young. To save the special players and the sport in general they need to crack down on this stuff EVEN MORE. Retrospective looks at these thing, fines to the coaches, multigame or even seasons suspensions and then they'd be getting somewhere.
I'm seriously concerned about this Fing game, as no one I know is having their kids play anymore, its just a matter of time until the Hamiltons of the world get rid of it.

I'm shocked and pissed that this episode isn't getting more attention, and if they let him play this weekend it will put my disgusted meter over the brink I fear.

 

[brian]

Why stick with the word lie. maybe someone told him that in good faith. You want to accuse others of lying. Very poor form on your part.

sounds like he is just trolling the OP
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling

 

[orange_in_VA]

He will live it down. But there is a difference between writing something that is incorrect and writing something you know to be false. Jek said he told people that he knew RW's commit was shaky but publicly he said everything was a-okay. That is very bad for your credibility. I like Jek and I like his site. But...you don't intentionally give out bad information. That is what you are accusing the OP of. I don't believe the OP did that. But Jek has admitted doing that in the RW case.

Thats not exactly what happened, and I'm sure Jek never imagined being in a situation like the RW debacle. More than anything he was trying to respect everyone involved including RW, his family and the staff. It was a very weird situation overall.

 

[dasher]

I know his source bro! I know exactly who told Jek and what he was told.

Wow, jekelish, I guess you'll never live down the RW thing, lol.

What if the Op's source is the doc? How good would that be? Would that be better than Jek's?

 

[Macky44]

Gee, Shafer just said Dungey is "pretty doubtful" so I guess my 3rd hand sources knew what they were talking about.

"My source is bigger than your source"

im sick of the pissing contests on this board with people claiming to be in the know more than others.

 

[jekelish]

He will live it down. But there is a difference between writing something that is incorrect and writing something you know to be false. Jek said he told people that he knew RW's commit was shaky but publicly he said everything was a-okay. That is very bad for your credibility. I like Jek and I like his site. But...you don't intentionally give out bad information. That is what you are accusing the OP of. I don't believe the OP did that. But Jek has admitted doing that in the RW case.

Not exactly accurate. I kept saying things were solid, because I was told that things were solid over and over and over again. I was relaying what I was told, repeatedly, by my source in that case - and I think everyone, by now, knows who my source was. I was always suspicious that it wasn't as solid as it appeared, but I kept getting told Robert was 100% committed, so I chose to keep my doubts to myself while relaying what my source was telling me. That's not being intentionally deceitful; that's just keeping my hunch to myself so as not to create a sh**storm of negativity.

 

[dasher]

Thats not exactly what happened, and I'm sure Jek never imagined being in a situation like the RW debacle. More than anything he was trying to respect everyone involved including RW, his family and the staff. It was a very weird situation overall.

Spin, right? He wrote one thing and posted thought something else. What word would you use (and it's a word you seem to like) for it? Look, I like Jek a lot. I hate that he is in the middle of this. But you have made this personal to the OP (someone I don't know at all, by the way) and it is off base. Just say you think he is incorrect or had bad info. no need for the lie and this other crap.

 

[orange_in_VA]

Why stick with the word lie. maybe someone told him that in good faith. You want to accuse others of lying. Very poor form on your part.

Listen dude, all I'm saying is that at some point in his chain of info someone made something up. He has not been now or ever cleared by anyone to practice yet. Dungey is the most important player we've had in a long time around here. That title is very misleading to the thousands of diehards on here who probably got really excited reading it.

 

[CusefanATL]

I said this in another place that the one thing I agree with Bud is is that this GD sport eats it young. To save the special players and the sport in general they need to crack down on this stuff EVEN MORE. Retrospective looks at these thing, fines to the coaches, multigame or even seasons suspensions and then they'd be getting somewhere.
I'm seriously concerned about this Fing game, as no one I know is having their kids play anymore, its just a matter of time until the Hamiltons of the world get rid of it.

I'm shocked and pissed that this episode isn't getting more attention, and if they let him play this weekend it will put my disgusted meter over the brink I fear.

yeah football is at a cross roads right now in the suburbs. Although, i don't think it will die. It will become a more poorer sport than it is now. But poverty areas in the SE and Texas will still play the game religiously regardless of injuries. And no college will get rid of it as long as it stays a cash cow. And the rich kids may not play it, but they'll still pay to watch it.

 

[dasher]

Not exactly accurate. I kept saying things were solid, because I was told that things were solid over and over and over again. I was relaying what I was told, repeatedly, by my source in that case - and I think everyone, by now, knows who my source was. I was always suspicious that it wasn't as solid as it appeared, but I kept getting told Robert was 100% committed, so I chose to keep my doubts to myself while relaying what my source was telling me. That's not being intentionally deceitful; that's just keeping my hunch to myself so as not to create a sh**storm of negativity.

Jek, you wrote other people, according to you, saying you thought the commit was in danger. You wrote that. It's one or the other. Either you were writing it was solid because you thought it was or you were writing something you knew wasn't true. Writing nothing would have been the better choice. I think you know that now. And by Virginia harping that the OP was lying instead of merely incorrect, it has a cooling effect on others from posting inside info they hear.

 

[CanadianSU]

The fact that we are this interested in the status of our QB makes me feel happy.

 

[dasher]

Listen dude, all I'm saying is that at some point in his chain of info someone made something up. He has not been now or ever cleared by anyone to practice yet. Dungey is the most important player we've had in a long time around here. That title is very misleading to the thousands of diehards on here who probably got really excited reading it.

Once again, that isn't necessarily true. Someone might have heard things incorrectly. That is far different than making something up.

 

[Faegan]

I said this in another place that the one thing I agree with Bud is is that this GD sport eats it young. To save the special players and the sport in general they need to crack down on this stuff EVEN MORE. Retrospective looks at these thing, fines to the coaches, multigame or even seasons suspensions and then they'd be getting somewhere.
I'm seriously concerned about this Fing game, as no one I know is having their kids play anymore, its just a matter of time until the Hamiltons of the world get rid of it.

I'm shocked and pissed that this episode isn't getting more attention, and if they let him play this weekend it will put my disgusted meter over the brink I fear.

I had a long conversation with my friends while we watched the Buffs game on Saturday night. I think they could also track coaches throughout their career and see who has a track record of this happening on their teams. If there's a pattern then there should be impactful disciplinary action taken that will make a school think twice before they hire coaches that allow this to go on or even encourage it.

 

[JackBauer44]

Just thought this would be an appropriate place for this

 

[IthacaBarrel]

I never understood the demand for a source with stuff like this either, it's true or it isn't, or he was told bad info, either way an article link or news source is one thing but when one guy is just passing info along that he heard and believes to be true from a non disclaimed source does anyone actually believe they will provide their source

 

[Macky44]

There's a pill for that.

But I'm sure you're well acquainted.

 

[Rocco]

Let's just hope we can make it through the LSU game without any more bad injuries to key players.

This season is turning into a joke again, injury-wise.

Oh yeah, and one more time, that LB from CMU can go kick rocks. POS.

 

[CuseGuy78]

"My source is bigger than your source"

im sick of the pissing contests on this board with people claiming to be in the know more than others.

This x1000. Jekelish u have good stuff and bring alot to the board but lately u are veering towards trying to prove you are more in the know than others. Who cares? I've been lurking here for years and u are always a fave poster of mine. Take my thoughts as you like, but it's a slippery slope u are heading down.

 

[chakka3421]

People we should all be glad that ED is doing better regardless of whether he plays or not against LSU.

However, if I were ED and cleared to play I would want to play - you never want to sit out the big games just for the chance at an upset - been in those games myself as a kid remembered playing with a sprained ankle no way no how I wasn't sitting and I played and we won - no better feeling in sports when youre the underdog and you pull an upset! The fans were awesome can still hear them (and the girls afterwards were even awesomer)...

No guts no glory! Knowing how competitive he seems to be if he is cleared I bet he will want to play!

 

[jekelish]

Jek, you wrote other people, according to you, saying you thought the commit was in danger. You wrote that. It's one or the other. Either you were writing it was solid because you thought it was or you were writing something you knew wasn't true. Writing nothing would have been the better choice. I think you know that now

It was my hunch that the commit was in danger, and yes I did relay that to people. But that doesn't change the fact that I was continually told that Robert was solid. I just chose to keep saying that "he's solid" publicly, in large part because I wanted to believe my doubts were ill informed. And good lord yes, do I wish I had just said nothing now, to save me the headache.

 

[orange_in_VA]

Once again, that isn't necessarily true. Someone might have heard things incorrectly. That is far different than making something up.

I'm over talking about it. You're arguing semantics at this point.

 

[CuseLegacy]

"My source is bigger than your source"

im sick of the pissing contests on this board with people claiming to be in the know more than others.

Best get use to it because whether you like it or not some people do know more than others.

 

[brian]

should just lock the thread and start over tomorrow

 

[SUFan44]

Not exactly accurate. I kept saying things were solid, because I was told that things were solid over and over and over again. I was relaying what I was told, repeatedly, by my source in that case - and I think everyone, by now, knows who my source was. I was always suspicious that it wasn't as solid as it appeared, but I kept getting told Robert was 100% committed, so I chose to keep my doubts to myself while relaying what my source was telling me. That's not being intentionally deceitful; that's just keeping my hunch to myself so as not to create a sh**storm of negativity.

This is the last time I'm going to post about this because it's been discussed way too much - but in a post previously you said you privately told people that you didn't think the commitment was solid.

Yet publicly you said he was completely solid.

Then after the fact, you say you knew this was going to happen and confided in others that you didn't think it was 100% solid.

To me, that's talking out of both sides of your mouth. And also placating a source just to keep said source - I may be mistaken but I believe I remember you also saying that your source was saying that you should make sure people knew that the commitment was solid, and that unsettled fan involvement could be detrimental to the recruitment.

All and all, it does sound like a mess. But in my personal opinion, it could have been handled differently across the board.