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If, and I do mean IF, he is cleared (i.e. maybe you can provide some info on how you learned this?), there is absolutely NO REASON for him not to play. It would make no sense to sit him.
Wait, according to folks all over this board, we're playing the '85 Bears Defense this Saturday. There's no way we can risk Dungey's health. As a matter of fact, I would sit everyone and suit up the field hockey team. I mean, we're going to lose 186-0 so why risk it. Sheesh.
 
There is NO WAY, absolutely no way in year 2015 that the kid plays this week, even if he passes the tests, they will never let him see the field until USF. It would not appear to look right as he was pretty much knocked out cold for a few seconds. Hope we see ED for USF. I honestly am not holding out any hope that the kid will play because there is no way in today's game and concussion safety that they will let him play. Right thing to do, it's a game people. Kid is 18 years old and was knocked out cold, see you in 3 weeks ED.

if you were the kid's doc would you clear him? even if he passes all the tests, they won't clear him. CYA always on every avenue again it's a college game, ED would be crazy to go out there.
 
texascpa said:
As much as Jek has given accurate information in the past, I can't believe some of you guys are doubting him. (Yes, Whitey, we all know your thoughts on RW).

Look - I think you give everyone the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. It's how the OP was questioned that got my cranky. Disagree with and have better sources or info - just be respectful in calling out the OP. It's possible they both have sources and that one had it right while the other didn't.
 
As much as Jek has given accurate information in the past, I can't believe some of you guys are doubting him. (Yes, Whitey, we all know your thoughts on RW).

I dont believe anyone has doubted him.

orange_in_VA made the mistake of thinking someone doubted him b/c jekelish quoted someone, but that post came before jek posted his info. other than that - i dont see much doubting of the info.
 
We should be happy he's doing well and may be ready for South Florida.

Could be much, much worse.

If he plays, we probably lose 48-21.

Without him, more like 58-10.
 
As much as Jek has given accurate information in the past, I can't believe some of you guys are doubting him. (Yes, Whitey, we all know your thoughts on RW).

RW was an inside job!!! :D

But seriously, this source is legit as are all of Jeks sources in the past. He doesn't share info unless he's confident about it. Just look at how quick he jumped on this OP. That's because he understands the importance of the integrity of his info. Now, I've come in to verify his claims, therefore making his info more credible without the need to divulge our sources.

People can believe what they want, but the OP is wrong and hasn't had anyone defend his position. In fact all of Shafers statements have all but guaranteed he was full of the whole time.
 
I dont believe anyone has doubted him.

orange_in_VA made the mistake of thinking someone doubted him b/c jekelish quoted someone, but that post came before jek posted his info. other than that - i dont see much doubting of the info.
Yeah, I'm not feeling disrespected or any of that crap believe me.

One thing that I do dislike though, and why I was a little perturbed by the thread to begin with, was someone doing a drive-by posting that Dungey was good to go...and that's it. Not even saying, "I heard this from someone, can't say who." Just, "he's been cleared" with nothing else. That's irksome. At least indicate you heard it SOMEwhere, even if you can't say where.
 
Also the fact that we have a bye after LSU makes a difference. Eric would have 3 weeks to fully recover...
 
I dont believe anyone has doubted him.

orange_in_VA made the mistake of thinking someone doubted him b/c jekelish quoted someone, but that post came before jek posted his info. other than that - i dont see much doubting of the info.

Just counted 4 posters on page 2 alone...
 
Yeah, I'm not feeling disrespected or any of that crap believe me.

One thing that I do dislike though, and why I was a little perturbed by the thread to begin with, was someone doing a drive-by posting that Dungey was good to go...and that's it. Not even saying, "I heard this from someone, can't say who." Just, "he's been cleared" with nothing else. That's irksome. At least indicate you heard it SOMEwhere, even if you can't say where.

I hear ya on that. and the OP has been silent since - but he still may have heard it from someone, who could be right - could be wrong. Obviously looks wrong as of now.
 
Also the fact that we have a bye after LSU makes a difference. Eric would have 3 weeks to fully recover...
Yep. That's huge for the health of the whole team. We need to get as many people back to 100% as possible for USF and UVA. Have to win those two games.
 
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jekelish said:
Yeah, I'm not feeling disrespected or any of that crap believe me. One thing that I do dislike though, and why I was a little perturbed by the thread to begin with, was someone doing a drive-by posting that Dungey was good to go...and that's it. Not even saying, "I heard this from someone, can't say who." Just, "he's been cleared" with nothing else. That's irksome. At least indicate you heard it SOMEwhere, even if you can't say where.

Ejz has seemingly posted good info before. I sort of took it as implied that someone told him/her
 
Just counted 4 posters on page 2 alone...

you are being hyper sensative dude and taking yourself and sources way too seriously. there isnt 1 negative post about Jek's info on my page 2.

Unleass you consider my "so 3rd hand" and a picture of marty headd to be doubting his info - which i can speak for myself, my comment certainly didnt judge his info 1 way or the other.
 
Wait, according to folks all over this board, we're playing the '85 Bears Defense this Saturday. There's no way we can risk Dungey's health. As a matter of fact, I would sit everyone and suit up the field hockey team. I mean, we're going to lose 186-0 so why risk it. Sheesh.

Um no. Field Hockey has a shot at the National Title so find another team to put at risk.
 
you are being hyper sensative dude. there isnt 1 negative post about Jek's info on my page 2.

Unleass you consider my "so 3rd hand" and a picture of marty headd to be doubting his info - which i can speak for myself, my comment certainly didnt judge his info 1 way or the other.

I'm not trying to be "hyper-sensitive" about it. But don't spread doubt, and then act like it didn't happen. Both you and OrangeInBoston were overly skeptical. Especially when given zero evidence to refute what Jek was saying, or to corroborate the OPs bs.
 
kid get knocked out for a second, struggles in pain, tries to get up...COLLAPSES back down, does anyone really think he didn't sustain a concussion?

This is where medicine is an inexact science with respect to testing, differing levels of how patients recover, etc., so even if he is passing the concussion protocols testing his brain knows it's been traumatized and hasn't healed fully.

If he's cleared to play it's really...not a good thing in any way shape or form. Any dr. that clears him given the FACTS of the case and situation, despite testing this week, would appropriately be looked at as questionable (and before anyone who doesn't know me question why I say this I've been teaching Neuroanatomy/Neurophysiology/Neuroscience for 25 years now as a college prof., have played the sport and sustained some head trauma, etc. so know personally and professionally of this issue).
I wish I could like this post a thousand times.

We're out of the dark ages. No longer is ignorance of the effects of concussions an excuse. Football players are dying decades earlier than they should because of head trauma, and a sizable chunk of this board wants to throw the 18 year old college freshman a week removed from a vicious hit to the side of the head that knocked him out cold, back onto the field. Gladiators, indeed.
 
I'm not trying to be "hyper-sensitive" about it. But don't spread doubt, and then act like it didn't happen. Both you and OrangeInBoston were overly skeptical. Especially when given zero evidence to refute what Jek was saying, or to corroborate the OPs bs.

I was overly skeptical?! I didnt judge 1 way or the other.

And orange in boston was not overly skeptical either. his post that jek quoted came BEFORE jek posted his information. You do realize that right?
 
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