Fire Autry

[Cusefan0307]

4-3 and just lost to a nepo-baby.

And he was never coming here to begin with.

Not enough NIL for St. John’s apparently!

 

[Bayside44]

Not enough NIL for St. John’s apparently!

This whole place was killing Auburn for the hire.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

To be fair, I think the vast vast majority of us have no clue whether or not someone is doing an adequate job coaching wise with the hand they are dealt. We don’t know enough to know what we don’t know .. having said that…. We should fire Autry

 

[Orangefan1]

Perhaps Boeheim will come back

 

[OrlandoCuse]

I cannot disagree enough to this statement.

One, Wildhack is not not ever has been, a marketer. He is a programmer and huge ego dealer-wither. And he was literally MORE than a GM at ESPN.

Second, to move on from Boeheim, the school had - repeat HAD - to promote an assistant or else it would have been an FU to JB.

Now it gets interesting. Autry hasn’t shown much as getting talent in an NIL world is off-the-court driven and Cuse upgraded there. Wildhack has a lame-duck boss with the Chancellor retiring; so Red would have to be astronomically bad to get fired as in repeat last year or go less than .500 in the ACC. Otherwise it gets complicated.

I’m not sure how to interpret your last paragraph. It’s pretty much a fact that Red has to make the NCAAT this year to avoid getting fired. There’s not much debate there.

 

[swish7]

Here is a profile of a good coach. Just beat Gonzaga by 40 & was 3-0 in Vegas.

Instead of the lifetime assistant, perhaps we need the lifetime Overachiever?

Dusty May - Wikipedia Dusty May - Wikipedia

 

[atlanticuse]

I’m not sure how to interpret your last paragraph. It’s pretty much a fact that Red has to make the NCAAT this year to avoid getting fired. There’s not much debate there.

And based on the last two days, it’s going to be very hard.

 

[wiCuse]

I know he isn’t going to leave and we probably wouldn’t pay for his massive salary to get him out of his current job but Shaka Smart would be perfect

The timing might be right. Marquette fans aren't happy with Shaka right now. They feel he should be using the portal more. If Marquette loses to Oklahoma tomorrow their postseason hopes are basically gone.

 

[Cusefan0307]

The timing might be right. Marquette fans aren't happy with Shaka right now. They feel he should be using the portal more. If Marquette loses to Oklahoma tomorrow their postseason hopes are basically gone.

I think he’s overrated here by some tbh. He’s made it out of the first weekend once since he left VCU over a decade ago. His ceiling is about 23 wins and a round of 32 exit. Better than what we have done here in a while, but I’d rather get someone like Skinn or Hodgson.

 

[DilemaCuse]

Couple of those guys are DOA with the school and had zero chance of getting the job even if it was open.

And that right there is another problem, the approach is self sanctioning

 

[wiCuse]

I think he’s overrated here by some tbh. He’s made it out of the first weekend once since he left VCU over a decade ago. His ceiling is about 23 wins and a round of 32 exit. Better than what we have done here in a while, but I’d rather get someone like Skinn or Hodgson.

Agree, Shaka's ceiling isn't very high. He's a great guy. No one says anything negative about him around here. They play an exciting brand of basketball. I'd go with Hodgson over him or an assistant. We'll have a new list of names by January.

 

[OCESIP]

4-3 and just lost to a nepo-baby.

And he was never coming here to begin with.

And still ranked 16th in Ken Pom. Will never understand the logic of the algorithm.

 

[Jack_Ball]

I would call

Smart
Hodgson
Mack

 

[23Zone]

Happy Thanksgiving to all my fellow Cuse fans.

Thankful for this board so I don't drive my wife absolutely crazy complaining about the train wreck known as Cuse basketball

 

[RyanCuse44]

I would call

Smart
Hodgson
Mack

Smart isn't leaving Marquette.
Hodgson is a good recruiter but has yet to prove anything as a HC, especially this year.
Mack - not sure, especially considering what happened at L'ville

 

[baggerbob]

Smart isn't leaving Marquette.
Hodgson is a good recruiter but has yet to prove anything as a HC, especially this year.
Mack - not sure, especially considering what happened at L'ville

On a good team JJ doesn't play 10 minutes if he gets off the bench at all. From 1987 to 90 he doesn't play. And the championship season he doesn't play. Yet on this team he gets major minutes, that tells you Red is in over his head.

 

[Jack_Ball]

Smart isn't leaving Marquette.
Hodgson is a good recruiter but has yet to prove anything as a HC, especially this year.
Mack - not sure, especially considering what happened at L'ville

That had more to do with L'ville & FBI investigation if I remember correctly? Mack was 24-8 at Charleston last year & was pretty good coach before Lville mess

 

[atlanticuse]

It’s November and a new thread is up to 15 pages

 

[rocklloyd]

Did any coach look at Kyle and Jj shoot free throws this summer and think we’re good? Took me one game to realize we are in checkmate. Can’t shoot reliably from field which suggests we play uptempo, however the 2 people we want with ball in hands in uptempo can’t hit the broad side of the barn from line. We’re kinda screwed

 

[Wrinkle]

It's pretty hilarious that we're one made free throw against Houston away from people singing a very different tune. Certainly hurts to not at least go 1-2 in Vegas.

We're probably making the tournament and if we do Red is not getting fired. The team is better than most of you seem to realize

 

[RF2044]

I think he’s overrated here by some tbh. He’s made it out of the first weekend once since he left VCU over a decade ago. His ceiling is about 23 wins and a round of 32 exit. Better than what we have done here in a while, but I’d rather get someone like Skinn or Hodgson.

Out of curiosity, why Hodgson?

He seems like a guy some glommed onto a couple of years ago, when he had a more exciting profile, but the results haven't lived up to the billing.

Alabama hasn't missed a beat without him, and his results have been unimpressive as a HC.

He seems very similar to Red -- career assistant, reputation as a solid recruiter, lacking with respect to X's and O's, not a very good offensive coach.

I think we need a guy with a proven track record of success. Skinn makes a lot more sense than trying to reach for unproven guys, IMO. Tried that, and it bombed.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Out of curiosity, why Hodgson?

He seems like a guy some glommed onto a couple of years ago, when he had a more exciting profile, but the results haven't lived up to the billing.

Alabama hasn't missed a beat without him, and his results have been unimpressive as a HC.

He seems very similar to Red -- career assistant, reputation as a solid recruiter, lacking with respect to X's and O's, not a very good offensive coach.

I think we need a guy with a proven track record of success. Skinn makes a lot more sense than trying to reach for unproven guys, IMO. Tried that, and it bombed.

I don’t see the similarities at all.

Hodgson won the sun belt and got a new job this year. The year before he got there they won 13 games and he won 25 last year. He’s been at SF two weeks. Not sure we can make that judgement yet. Skinn is fine, but I like the offensive system Hodgson would bring. He had Arkansas St averaging 80 a game and SF is averaging 95 this year.

He’s also only 38. Red was 50 by the time he got an opportunity.

 

[phil77]

I think he’s overrated here by some tbh. He’s made it out of the first weekend once since he left VCU over a decade ago. His ceiling is about 23 wins and a round of 32 exit. Better than what we have done here in a while, but I’d rather get someone like Skinn or Hodgson.

I really like him for the job because he is a big name, proven track record of winning maybe not in the tournament but getting there on a regular basis, and plays exciting brand of basketball. He is kind of guy that would be a great first step for to rebuild our program and rebuild our brand quickly IMO. Down the road after winning and getting out status back we can worry about making deep runs in March…

I do like Skinn, Hodgson and also really like Mack (he might be best coach we can get).

 

[crv1728]

Hence, not exactly what I call lighting it up.

What would ‘lighting it up’ look like to you? How much improvement and how fast before you are impressed?

 

[elimunelson]

It’s Syracuse and they have to placate boeheim, the boosters and the auxiliary club

Only call will be to Gerry. Mark it down. If he says no and decides JMU is a better job then they’ll give the job to Jim Boeheim jr