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I would say JB lost the right to that opinion.
That would be totally fair, but in actuality SU felt they had to hire a jb disciple in order to smoothly move JB out. So his opinion did matter. If you’re handcuffed anyway, might as well take the one jb thought was better, not just the most senior. It’s very possible the hof coach knew Red wasnt up for it.
 
If SU was so dead set on hiring one of Boeheim’s assistants to prevent him from going nuclear, they probably should have full listened instead of half listened and hired the guy JB said would be the better choice. There was a reason JB wanted to step over Red and hire gmac. Wasn’t just a coin flip.
If JB soured on Autry that much then he had plenty of time to fire him and elevate GMac to HCiW status. He did not. That’s entirely on him.
 
That would be totally fair, but in actuality SU felt they had to hire a jb disciple in order to smoothly move JB out. So his opinion did matter. If you’re handcuffed anyway, might as well take the one jb thought was better, not just the most senior. It’s very possible the hof coach knew Red wasnt up for it.

did Mac have an opinion when he was settled in foxboro in 1991 of Pasqualoni or Edsal? Did he let Jake know? Curious

Same w Roy and Desko.
 
did Mac have an opinion when he was settled in foxboro in 1991 of Pasqualoni or Edsal? Did he let Jake know? Curious

Same w Roy and Desko.
Wasn’t the story that some SU star player said “They made that crazy linebackers coach the head coach?!” when P was elevated? I know that’s been told over the years.
 
If JB soured on Autry that much then he had plenty of time to fire him and elevate GMac to HCiW status. He did not. That’s entirely on him.
A lot of fault is JB’s, but that’s besides my point. Isn’t it fair to assume there was a reason JB wanted to skip over his top assistant? And given what we’re seeing isnt it fair to believe that reason possibly could be Red’s not a good tactician? I dont think it’s that farfetched.
 
A lot of fault is JB’s, but that’s besides my point. Isn’t it fair to assume there was a reason JB wanted to skip over his top assistant? And given what we’re seeing isnt it fair to believe that reason possibly could be Red’s not a good tactician? I dont think it’s that farfetched.
I believe there are conflicting stories about who JB preferred to succeed him. Some folks have debunked the McNamara story. And since JB selfishly drove the program into a ditch I really don’t care who he though was better anyway.

I mean, the guy didn’t recruit or run practice in his last few seasons.
 
red could work as head coach IF

1 asst is the defensive guru (i think thats englested and the d is actually good this year)

1 asst is the offensive guru (not sure who that is supposed to be)

1 asst is the recruiting ace (straughn - hes pretty good)

1 asst is the in-game manager (again not sure who that is)

leaving red as the "face of the franchise and PR guy" who kinda just oversees everything without getting his hands dirty

THAT could work...but not sure ego or appearances would let something like that even go down
 
That would be totally fair, but in actuality SU felt they had to hire a jb disciple in order to smoothly move JB out. So his opinion did matter.
And since JB selfishly drove the program into a ditch I really don’t care who he though was better anyway.
That's what I mean by saying he lost the right to an opinion.
 
red could work as head coach IF

1 asst is the defensive guru (i think thats englested and the d is actually good this year)

1 asst is the offensive guru (not sure who that is supposed to be)

1 asst is the recruiting ace (straughn - hes pretty good)

1 asst is the in-game manager (again not sure who that is)

leaving red as the "face of the franchise and PR guy" who kinda just oversees everything without getting his hands dirty

THAT could work...but not sure ego or appearances would let something like that even go down
Or just give Red a marketing job in the SUAD and get an actual basketball coach.
 
I’ve been a supporter of Red, but he must go after this season due to the fact that he does not know how to utilize a solid roster, poor game management and in game adjustments.

White shouldn’t always have to leave the floor when Freeman is on the court, Anthony should be playing more, Kings and Kyle shouldn’t be ineffective when Freeman is on the floor. Autry just doesn’t know how to bring the best out of players. Other teams have an embarrassment of riches, yet when we have some semblance of talent, we are unable to make it work.
 
did Mac have an opinion when he was settled in foxboro in 1991 of Pasqualoni or Edsal? Did he let Jake know? Curious

Same w Roy and Desko.
I will raise you a more recent one, did Nick Saban and his BOT allies dictate to Greg Byrne who needed to be the replacement?
Nick knew when to get out and stay out of the way since they didn't have a capable replacement on staff. Sure they made a call to Sark but not Lane, and settled on an outsider in DeBoer w mixed results so far
 
I believe there are conflicting stories about who JB preferred to succeed him. Some folks have debunked the McNamara story. And since JB selfishly drove the program into a ditch I really don’t care who he though was better anyway.

I mean, the guy didn’t recruit or run practice in his last few seasons.
He quietly quit and played Little League dad with his sons, didn't want Buddy to have any competition to playing time, he didn't understand that you can use the portal to improve your roster, I could go on and on.
 
red could work as head coach IF

1 asst is the defensive guru (i think thats englested and the d is actually good this year)

1 asst is the offensive guru (not sure who that is supposed to be)

1 asst is the recruiting ace (straughn - hes pretty good)

1 asst is the in-game manager (again not sure who that is)

leaving red as the "face of the franchise and PR guy" who kinda just oversees everything without getting his hands dirty

THAT could work...but not sure ego or appearances would let something like that even go down
If you need an assistant to carry you in every aspect but recruiting, and oh by the way the press conferences leave a little to be desired, then your not worthy of millions and being a head coach.
 
If you need an assistant to carry you in every aspect but recruiting, and oh by the way the press conferences leave a little to be desired, then your not worthy of millions and being a head coach.


Agreed. Organizations that fail manage around under-performance, instead of addressing it head on. It's time to stop worrying about the symptoms, and address the problem.
 
He quietly quit and played Little League dad with his sons, didn't want Buddy to have any competition to playing time, he didn't understand that you can use the portal to improve your roster, I could go on and on.
Funny how this stuff is all coming out now.

Glad JAB was a real professional w how his assistants managed their time.
 
Funny how this stuff is all coming out now.

Glad JAB was a real professional w how his assistants managed their time.
I wouldn't say "now." There has been talk on the board for awhile now that as competitive as JB was on game days, he wasn't exactly killing himself in other aspects of the job to get to game day (recruiting, practices) during the latter part of his career.
 
Not to beat a dead horse but it’s amazing the number of schools that have found stability and success in replacing a HoF’er coach. UConn, Maryland, UF, Duke, UNC, Wisconsin. Even Nova appears to be back on solid footing. We really have to hope we find our guy so we aren’t cycling through coaches like IU and Oklahoma State and Gtown.
 
Not to beat a dead horse but it’s amazing the number of schools that have found stability and success in replacing a HoF’er coach. UConn, Maryland, UF, Duke, UNC, Wisconsin. Even Nova appears to be back on solid footing. We really have to hope we find our guy so we aren’t cycling through coaches like IU and Oklahoma State and Gtown.

Maryland is on their 3rd coach. Hubert will likely be resourced enough but they can spend whatever if it gets to that.
 
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Maryland is on their 3rd coach. Hubert will likely be resourced enough but they can spend whatever if it gets to that.
turgeron lasted 11 years. willard left for nova. Neither was canned in 3 years for sucking. Despite internal financial mismanagement, Maryland has managed to keep their hoop team relevant
 
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turgeron lasted 11 years. willard left for nova. Neither was canned in 3 years for sucking. Despite internal financial mismanagement, Maryland has managed to keep their hoop team relevant

One Sweet 16 in 11 years isn't picking up where Williams left them - at least to that fanbase. Agree he did well enough usually in the regular season but the fans hated him. In fairness he also got hosed in the COVID year. Took til the 4th season to make the dance. Respectfully Willard leaving so quickly didn't make their AD look great.
 
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