For those are already to move on from Red

[Dinkyspond]

FWIW, the New York Yankees take Amtrak trains for road trips to Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore and DC

 

[dasher]

He needs to let JW run things and take Adam out to dinner

yeah, because Adam is the only booster we have and the only one we have to court.

 

[Bayside44]

It means we are preparing for the future where every player gets paid and money goes to the settlement.
Bus is not great but on those trips every kid has te equivalent of a first class seat and when you factor in getting to airport 2 hours early. Transportation to the airport. Luggage wait time. Transportation from the airport to the city.
NY, Boston, Pittsburgh probably a push or better.

?

They fly private bus to plane. Not in boarding zone 5

 

[RedtheGOB]

Is this like a Fran Brown Winners get Washed thing?

We play like crap and get the bus. Play better and get the planes.

 

[tptcuse]

This is so accurate but the optics are that it’s cheap.

Probably not the best feeling being one of twelve basketball players in what used to be a very proud program and watching the entire football team boarding charter planes.

 

[RedtheGOB]

All jokes aside. Imagine young Melo chooses USC and their luxury lifestyle out West in the sun. They’d prob give Kaiyan his own plane. That could’ve set us back even further.

Old Man Carmelo and even more likely LaLa I expect will write blank checks next year to see Kaiyan have every opportunity to succeed on the Hill.

 

[Ottoman]

Other than riding the bus, what other things do you suggest the program do to help toughen 'em up?

• Provide steady leadership.
• Lead by example.
• Have reasonable expectations and make sure they are adhered to.
• Play the players who deserve to play, sit the players who aren't ready to contribute.
• Stop buying players fancy cars and teach them how to handle the money they are earning so that it provides for them and their families in the future.
• Court NIL donors, but ensure donors follow the rules and the values of the university.
• Treat players with respect but not adoration.
• Be honest with the players about what they need to do to become professional basketball players. Provide alternatives for players who won't become professional players.

This is a new era in college sports, but that doesn't mean we should abandon our values and expectations. A bus ride and reasonable accommodations won't hurt anyone.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

• Stop buying players fancy cars and teach them how to handle the money they are earning so that it provides for them and their families in the future.

BOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNGGGGGGG

 

[OttoMets]

It means we are preparing for the future where every player gets paid and money goes to the settlement.
Bus is not great but on those trips every kid has te equivalent of a first class seat and when you factor in getting to airport 2 hours early. Transportation to the airport. Luggage wait time. Transportation from the airport to the city.
NY, Boston, Pittsburgh probably a push or better.

I've traveled on to road trips on a college basketball team bus, and I've done so on a plane. Not even close to a push. Bus is awful.

That said, we're sacrificing comfortable and efficient travel so unremarkable 20-year-old basketball players can make solid salaries? What's the point, burn it down.

 

[grepal]

We use to fly to LGA and the team for years would stay at the LGA Marriott. The year of the huge blizzard (1994 or 5?) put an end to that, as the BE required that all teams had to stay in Manhattan. I miss the East Side Marriott and their lobby bar.

I was at The Times Sq Marriott for that tourney, surreal for sure. Wading through waist deep snow from the hotel to .SG and the MSG roof leaking. That was a crazy week

 

[CuseCPT]

you think players never “flunk out” before ? judah mintz was barly eligible and only reason he was is bc of his position the team. quadir was kicked off by red, and a move that had a ripple affect on others (like maliq).

There's a big difference between barely eligible and failed out, similar to being pretty sick and being dead.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

There's a big difference between barely eligible and failed out, similar to being pretty sick and being dead.

 

[dasher]

I've traveled on to road trips on a college basketball team bus, and I've done so on a plane. Not even close to a push. Bus is awful.

That said, we're sacrificing comfortable and efficient travel so unremarkable 20-year-old basketball players can make solid salaries? What's the point, burn it down.

NIL has nothing to do with bus trips

 

[CuseCPT]

If the school doesn't care about the program and take it seriously, why should I? Trudging up to the Dome all winter to watch us grind out wins against Colgate and Cornell and be .500 or worse in the ACC is getting old really fast.

But if all of this is true, and I have no reason to believe it isn't, it really just shows that some folks were bigger JB fans than fans of the program.

 

[OrangeinBoston]

But if all of this is true

It’s an internet message board. Most of the stuff posted here isn’t true.

 

[CuseCPT]

It’s an internet message board. Most of the stuff posted here isn’t true.

There’s some folks here with proven track records. IYKYK

 

[RedtheGOB]

There’s some folks here with proven track records. IYKYK

I come here because at least I knows there’s no AI Bots. The comments are either way too smart or way too stupid to be a computer.

 

[bballbeadle]

I was at The Times Sq Marriott for that tourney, surreal for sure. Wading through waist deep snow from the hotel to .SG and the MSG roof leaking. That was a crazy week

We won it, too. Even crazier!

 

[FrancoPizza]

Really? First rate programs fly. Second rate programs bus. And the basketball program understands that.

Maybe he’s borrowing a page from Fran. Winners fly.

 

[Jimmy]

you think players never “flunk out” before ? judah mintz was barly eligible and only reason he was is bc of his position the team. quadir was kicked off by red, and a move that had a ripple affect on others (like maliq).

Maliq leaving had zero to do with quadir if anything Taylor leaving would have had more effect. I’d say majority of athletes fall in the barely eligible.

 

[BillSU]

It’s a fight with the Chancellor per usual. Not wildhack

Yup. When Syverud and Weitsman couldn't get along a big bank for SU was lost.

 

[CuseCPT]

Yup. When Syverud and Weitsman couldn't get along a big bank for SU was lost.

Was it, though? Was it?

 

[kcsu]

yeah, because Adam is the only booster we have and the only one we have to court.

No, its because he was a very good booster that supported multiple SU teams with men's basketball, the one that is riding the bus his favorite. Its possible that a meeting, breaking bread ɓetween the three of them might patch things up and bring him back supporting SU athletes. Syracuse Athletics doesn't have the luxury of not trying to mend a fence with a former booster that loves the program, supported the program and personally is being slighted because of the negative dynamics that exist between the Chancellor and his good friend the former HOF coach.

 

[zilo]

Dang. Will we ever return to the old days, or are the best days of Syracuse basketball behind us?

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Maliq leaving had zero to do with quadir if anything Taylor leaving would have had more effect. I’d say majority of athletes fall in the barely eligible.

As somebody who has worked with student athletes at a few different institutions, including SU and WVU which has a special reputation on this board, my experience is that this could not be farther from the truth.