Future Campus Framework Discussion

[texascpa]

For cash flow purposes they are going to borrow the money but the AD has the money to pay for these upgrades.

Without looking at the books I am sure the school puts a lot of money into CDs and mutual funds and other investments. So while they have the money to pay without borrowing all transactions involving this amount of money involve banks and borrowing.
This project though is pretty much fundraised money.

Good to know. Though, they probably have it in rate swaps, commercial paper, and long-term bonds, not CDs and mutual funds.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

What's with the roller-coaster look on top of the roof?

 

[saltine44]

No offense to Ephesus, especially if they are local folks, but this hockey ice lighting video looks straight out of 1999.
The Dome Reno deserves better like LED’s carpeted across the exterior structures and inside to create dynamic and highly customizable light shows

and 3D projection system..

 

[FrancoPizza]

Or 3D projection system..

Someone send that to Wildhack and Sala. 3D projection capability should be a requirement for any lighting company. If Ephesus can't do it, then we shouldn't automatically hand them the contract.

 

[Cusefan78]

Or 3D projection system..

I’m assuming that center clear panel can be darkened during day game intros. This is would be sick and having new house this should be a no brainer. Let the students produce a weekly show. Personally I think they need to go out of control big with lighting

 

[RandomGuy]

No offense to Ephesus, especially if they are local folks, but this hockey ice lighting video looks straight out of 1999.
The Dome Reno deserves better like LED’s carpeted across the exterior structures and inside to create dynamic and highly customizable light shows

Agreed. I hope they go all out with the lighting. Pre-game, half time, and post game shows. Make people WANT to go, and stay. Make the stadium part of the event.

 

[UnknownOrange]

Do people not realize Ephesus does lighting for the Super Bowl & Halftime shows? I think they can handle the Dome lol

 

[UnknownOrange]

Someone send that to Wildhack and Sala. 3D projection capability should be a requirement for any lighting company. If Ephesus can't do it, then we shouldn't automatically hand them the contract.

Sorry - meant to quote you - the video is a mixture of a lighting company and a projection machine playing a video - ephesus can't do this because they aren't a projection company - you'd need this separately and those systems then can work together.

Honestly SU should just hire a WWE guy for this lol

 

[Toga]

love the look on people's faces when they realize that they have to put their foot on the peddle for the water to come out. Also it always makes me feel better when an opposition fan from a team that is destroying us at half time in football can't work the water in the sink and has soap all over his hands and I can smugly walk in and step on the peddle. Clean my hands and they realize how it is done. That is sometimes the only victory i get on a Saturday

It's the little things

 

[GoCuse14]

JW did say the lighting will allow for better team entrances, etc. This is very much something to look forward to. Hopefully they can figure out projection systems as well.

I am assuming then that they are looking at adding LED lighting. I happen to work for Musco Sports lighting here in Iowa and we are the biggest sports lighting company in the world. They can do a lot of really cool stuff with the LED set ups now. Basically like at a concert. We haven't gotten all the colored lighting figured out within the fixtures yet...but its still pretty rad. We have been doing a lot of that with minor league baseball currently.

 

[sufandu]

I am assuming then that they are looking at adding LED lighting. I happen to work for Musco Sports lighting here in Iowa and we are the biggest sports lighting company in the world. They can do a lot of really cool stuff with the LED set ups now. Basically like at a concert. We haven't gotten all the colored lighting figured out within the fixtures yet...but its still pretty rad. We have been doing a lot of that with minor league baseball currently.

Some people have said there is a locally based lighting company that does big time events like the superbowl. I would think they have the inside track.

 

[TexanMark]

Or 3D projection system..

Meh, but can they spray paint green over "men" in Orangemen?

 

[CuseLegacy]

It’s better than what they call me!:bat:

They call me that too.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Ephesus Lighting doubling size of downtown Syracuse headquarters

 

[sutomcat]

Someone send that to Wildhack and Sala. 3D projection capability should be a requirement for any lighting company. If Ephesus can't do it, then we shouldn't automatically hand them the contract.

The 3D projections are not done with the stadium lights.

Looks like the company to make inquiries to is Quince Imaging. If John wants wow factor, he should give Quince a call.

The Visual Trickery That Turns Hockey Rinks Into Lakes of Fire

Quince Imaging |

 

[CuseLegacy]

Ohh man... I thought they were the urinals...

Ooof. That brings back a really bad memory of an interstate rest stop in Arkansas and a man who evidently could not read the sign on the door.

 

[NJCuse97]

It turns out the saddle shape is an ideal way to support the load. I think this is a related link to one NJCuse97 already shared:

https://data.epo.org/publication-server/document?iDocId=14420054&iFormat=0

It's a little like a pringle chip. The shape gives it a greater structural depth and resistance to torsional twists. This makes the "membrane" stronger and able to better span at thinner "thickness". Other similar structural examples include the work of Saarinen (Ice rink at Yale, TWA terminal at JFK, Dulles terminal) Eero Saarinen - Wikipedia or the "serpentine" brick walls by Jefferson at UVA. There was an Italian architect/engineer who specialized in this type of exploration named Pier Luigi Nervi
Spotlight: Pier Luigi Nervi | ArchDaily

 

[tipphill]

Syracuse commits to spend $118 million dollars in phase one of a project that will have several phases and cost hundreds of millions of dollars and all you can do is complain?

I feel sad for you.

feel what you want. i feel bad for you as well while you wait for the other phases.

 

[upperdeck]

If you arent looking to do this stuff in a new redo of the lighting and experience then you arent paying attention..

 

[GoCuse14]

It's GOT to be Ephesus. They are 2 miles from the stadium and have been dying to get in there

They are currently offering to donate a lot, to keep us from doing more projects in their backyard. Musco is all over the campus. There is pressure being put on the decision maker to choose Ephesus (GE) over Musco right now, but Musco is the superior product. Which unfortunately also means more cost. We’ll see how it shakes out and I’ll keep my ears open.

 

[sutomcat]

feel what you want. i feel bad for you as well while you wait for the other phases.

Thanks tipp. I hope some day you see this as a good thing.

 

[rrlbees]

Pretty much everything I was told about the renovation was the stuff they decided.
I was told they wanted new video boards in the corners but the middle makes more sense.
It appears this AD is smartly only spending what the school has fundraised and not taking loans and spending more than we have. We have the TV money to spend more but have decided to be more fiscally responsible.

Video boards in the corners would have been useless and I doubt it was considered for more than a minute. It wouldn’t solve the problem they currently have which is with the A level basketball donors on the bench side of the dome. Except for those with the courtside seats they are the biggest donors. They’d still have to crank their head around or watch video 100 yards away. Whomever suggested that wasn’t thinking. They made the right call and I’m sure that was one of the requirements when designing the roof and support structure.

Unless there is some super donor they haven’t really started fundraising. They’ll use some seed money to get started this summer with prep work. Depending on how hard they fundraise will determine how much they will borrow. If they had their druthers they’d borrow nothing. Hopefully a few heavy hitters will step up. It’ll go a long ways to determining what the next phase will look like.

 

[sutomcat]

Video boards in the corners would have been useless and I doubt it was considered for more than a minute. It wouldn’t solve the problem they currently have which is with the A level basketball donors on the bench side of the dome. Except for those with the courtside seats they are the biggest donors. They’d still have to crank their head around or watch video 100 yards away. Whomever suggested that wasn’t thinking. They made the right call and I’m sure that was one of the requirements when designing the roof and support structure.

Unless there is some super donor they haven’t really started fundraising. They’ll use some seed money to get started this summer with prep work. Depending on how hard they fundraise will determine how much they will borrow. If they had their druthers they’d borrow nothing. Hopefully a few heavy hitters will step up. It’ll go a long ways to determining what the next phase will look like.

Agree about the scoreboard. The movable scoreboard mounted in the middle of the roof was a key deliverable from day one for the renovation. They can't even hang a few speakers well with the air supported roof.

Agree that they are not even close to raising $118 million. Surely the fund raising will start in earnest soon. Hope the state and county are willing to chip in some money. Hope some big donors step up and I hope they target all supporters of the university sports programs this time.

If you are a Syracuse fan and you care about the sports programs, now is a good time to step up and make a contribution. If you don't have money to do that, it would be great if you could buy season tickets, or if you can't afford that, just buy tickets to the games you can afford to go to.

Send a message. Tell the university you support the sports programs with your wallet or purse!

 

[UnknownOrange]

They are currently offering to donate a lot, to keep us from doing more projects in their backyard. Musco is all over the campus. There is pressure being put on the decision maker to choose Ephesus (GE) over Musco right now, but Musco is the superior product. Which unfortunately also means more cost. We’ll see how it shakes out and I’ll keep my ears open.

Ephesus was ready to buy a box to do the lighting lol so I have a feeling it'll be them. I'm sure Musco would be great too - whomever gives 'Cuse the best for the least - wins

 

[shandeezy7]

Ephesus was ready to buy a box to do the lighting lol so I have a feeling it'll be them. I'm sure Musco would be great too - whomever gives 'Cuse the best for the least - wins

Was this pre- or post-acquisition by Eaton? Does Eaton/Crouse-Hinds already have a box at the Dome?