Good to see Dungey on the sidelines...

[oldpinepoint]

My stingers were awful, basically my left side would go numb, shoulder down to my arm.

 

[PhatOrange]

Its dungeys own fault

 

[dan7800]

When the wake qb got one a few years ago, he ran right on the field at the half

 

[OrangePA]

Agreed...don't think it is a concussion any more. Most likely a stinger, and for those who know what I am talking about those are a bear...

True that.

 

[PAcuse]

When the wake qb got one a few years ago, he ran right on the field at the half

Last time Dungey got one they kept him in the locker room because of the noise and light outside.

 

[Cusefan0307]

His head snapped back like he was in a car wreck. Looks like whiplash to me.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangePA]

...even if in street clothes.

I assume if it were a concussion, he wouldn't be on the sidelines, and would have remained in the locker room. Is that assumption correct?

Lets hope!

 

[OrangePA]

Now protect the guy!!

 

[RICuse44]

My stingers were awful, basically my left side would go numb, shoulder down to my arm.

Yeah I hear you. I would get one every time I hit someone until I finally got a cowboy collar.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[kirbivore]

Now protect the guy!!

he should learn how to protect himself. Mix in a slide or a throwaway.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[dan7800]

This is huge for the program. Need TD to rs next year. Build the program.

 

[OrangePA]

Dungey is one tough dude.

 

[Townie72]

he should learn how to protect himself. Mix in a slide or a throwaway.

Exactly what could he have done differently on the play on which he was injured today?

There was no opportunity to slide.

He was beyond the line of scrimmage.

He had no opportunity to throw the ball.

The answer would be, I suspect, that he should stop running the ball.

This is a replay of the career of Robert Griffin III for the Redskins. Running QBs don't work because they can't hold up.

 

[NashvilleOrange]

Hope we get some more good news. Obviously need him to get to a bowl but he also adds so much energy/electricity to the team. Love watching him play, just wish he was a little more careful.

 

[jgeorge322]

Exactly what could he have done differently on the play on which he was injured today?

There was no opportunity to slide.

He was beyond the line of scrimmage.

He had no opportunity to throw the ball.

The answer would be, I suspect, that he should stop running the ball.

This is a replay of the career of Robert Griffin III for the Redskins. Running QBs don't work because they can't hold up.

Well it was a read option so he couldve handed the ball off instead of decide on a qb dive up the middle... so i do agree its partially his fault.

 

[Cuseregular]

I don't think they'd risk having him on the sideline if it were a concussion--wouldn't they keep him in the locker room?

Seems irresponsible to have an impaired kid roaming around, where he could get injured worse.

Yeah--would be good to have somebody like cuseregular weigh in.

It's 100% certain it's a concussion. Being there to see the violent hit, the aftermath with the classic head trauma sign of holding ones face mask to stabilize oneself, seeing him right in front of me on the field walking off woozy looking, and from the in game notification sent out from the school re the hit makes this one an easy conclusion (again just like the two last year, which hopefully this year I won't have to engage with the less informed here re the reality of it).

This because you don't need head trauma to get one with the violence of the hit re whiplash enough to cause it. The fact that he was back on the sideline is good and means it wasn't a grade 3 concussion (which is usually the case with indirect concussions from whiplash without a direct hit to the skull). Grade one for sure and possibly grade 2 which will only be known by follow up neurological testing this week.

Regardless this is number 3, it would be crazy to put him out there next week regardless and the protocol would suggest against it (especially if it's grade 2):

Concussion Rating Scale

If I'm his parents I shut him down for the season given his history. Possibly his career. Its wasn't a stinger as, again, was right on the sideline and no upper extremity symptoms were present nor addressed.

(This is going to be my one and only one post on this this year as I'd prefer not to have to go through what was gone through last year with the dopey back and forth only to have it ultimately substantiated).

 

[SmilinBob]

If I had to guess, he just has a bad stinger, I hope its nothing more than that.

Brian...ask any physical therapist or Dr. on what a stinger is. It is a damage (how much varies) to the spinal nerve system and by far not a "just a" type of injury. I know coaches and the like say it all the time but it isn't a good thing in any way, shape or form.

 

[dan7800]

FWIW I watched the replay of a hit with an ER MD and asked her about if he'd be allowed to be on the sidelines after a concussion, and she said most likely. The biggest thing is to keep them out of a "stressful" situation right after a concussion.

Take it FWIW

IF it is a concussion, I say shut him down for the season, maybe for good. Before the game, I had a bad feeling that ED was going to get one this game. Clemson is too big & strong.

 

[TheCusian]

It's 100% certain it's a concussion. Being there to see the violent hit, the aftermath with the classic head trauma sign of holding ones face mask to stabilize oneself, seeing him right in front of me on the field walking off woozy looking, and from the in game notification sent out from the school re the hit makes this one an easy conclusion (again just like the two last year, which hopefully this year I won't have to engage with the less informed here re the reality of it).

This because you don't need head trauma to get one with the violence of the hit re whiplash enough to cause it. The fact that he was back on the sideline is good and means it wasn't a grade 3 concussion (which is usually the case with indirect concussions from whiplash without a direct hit to the skull). Grade one for sure and possibly grade 2 which will only be known by follow up neurological testing this week.

Regardless this is number 3, it would be crazy to put him out there next week regardless and the protocol would suggest against it (especially if it's grade 2):

Concussion Rating Scale

If I'm his parents I shut him down for the season given his history. Possibly his career. Its wasn't a stinger as, again, was right on the sideline and no upper extremity symptoms were present nor addressed.

(This is going to be my one and only one post on this this year as I'd prefer not to have to go through what was gone through last year with the dopey back and forth only to have it ultimately substantiated).

I think the "dopey back and forth" was over him already having three when the only evidence we had was visual by people who were not there and not doctors.

AND 2 concussions were "substantiated", but what grade they were is still visual by non-doctors who didn't even talk to the patient.

I will say it again: even if you are a doctor, seeing the hit on TV or from the stands *might* give you enough info to apply a % chance (i.e. Educated guess) - but it is not the same as a team doctors actual examination, knowing the players full medical history, and conversations with a specialist.

So, you may call it "dopey" - but I find only the confidence in what you're sharing here falls into that category (unless you are the team doctor, in which case, I apologize).

100%?

 

[Nick44]

The Alex Smith play from the KC game last week was reminiscent of what happened yesterday. Last week, AS had his head bounce of the ground and he was woozy heading to the locker room. He some how passed concussion protocol, came back into the game only to suffer another hit to head toward end of game that did result in concussion.

I am hopeful that he avoided one yesterday during first hit and that they shut him down as a precaution from another hit to head later in game. Which we all know would've happened had he returned.

FYI Boulware is a meathead P.O.S.

 

[bnoro]

FWIW I watched the replay of a hit with an ER MD and asked her about if he'd be allowed to be on the sidelines after a concussion, and she said most likely. The biggest thing is to keep them out of a "stressful" situation right after a concussion.

Take it FWIW

IF it is a concussion, I say shut him down for the season, maybe for good. Before the game, I had a bad feeling that ED was going to get one this game. Clemson is too big & strong.

It's much more stressful to be on a sideline in the bright sun with all the noise than in a dark locker room...

 

[FrancoPizza]

It's 100% certain it's a concussion. Being there to see the violent hit, the aftermath with the classic head trauma sign of holding ones face mask to stabilize oneself, seeing him right in front of me on the field walking off woozy looking, and from the in game notification sent out from the school re the hit makes this one an easy conclusion (again just like the two last year, which hopefully this year I won't have to engage with the less informed here re the reality of it).

This because you don't need head trauma to get one with the violence of the hit re whiplash enough to cause it. The fact that he was back on the sideline is good and means it wasn't a grade 3 concussion (which is usually the case with indirect concussions from whiplash without a direct hit to the skull). Grade one for sure and possibly grade 2 which will only be known by follow up neurological testing this week.

Regardless this is number 3, it would be crazy to put him out there next week regardless and the protocol would suggest against it (especially if it's grade 2):

Concussion Rating Scale

If I'm his parents I shut him down for the season given his history. Possibly his career. Its wasn't a stinger as, again, was right on the sideline and no upper extremity symptoms were present nor addressed.

(This is going to be my one and only one post on this this year as I'd prefer not to have to go through what was gone through last year with the dopey back and forth only to have it ultimately substantiated).

Santa Claus isn't real but should we go telling all the children because they're misinformed? I feel like one of those kids after reading your prognosis.