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Tells me we start to execute the hurry up and no huddle offense to a greater extent over the remainder of the season. Well, at least I hope we do. We have had greater success moving the ball in that scheme over the last two weeks than our more traditional set.
I'm not going to beat on a dead horse, but clearly Ryan's accuracy holds us back a bit, however, his completions tend to come in bunches -- he is more of a rhythm thrower than a pure thrower. My hope is that we call some easy completions for him early (screens, hitch, slant) then pick up the momentum a bit.
As a premium tidbit, part of the "binder" included a hurry up/no huddle offense that had the ability to be more of a "balanced" spread if that makes some sense to you all. I would think that Northwestern's offense would come to mind. One that can speed up tempo, has a bit of the read option involved, but can also line up under center as well. That was the blueprint from what I was told. It appears as if that still may be part of the blueprint due to the QB's we have recruited in Kinder, Miller (fastest QB on the team when not punching out people), Hunt, and Broyld.
However, I have no idea what happened to that offense. I really don't. I know we worked on it last spring and this spring, only to see none of it during the season. Dave Rhame I think would back me up on this if he could publically do so, although I'm not sure if he can, and I understand that.
If I had to guess, and this point can be debated, we are not seeing this due to fear of Ryan getting injured, which is an indictment of Loeb's ability and Kinder's development as of right now. My second somewhat educated guess is that Doug has elected to keep things very vanilla because he is trying to "hedge" the season per say. I guess an analogy would be taking the air of the ball in hoops. Slow it down, keep it close, and win in the end. This had been relatively successful the last two years up until RU, UCONN, and L'Ville as we have lost the last three games in that same manner.
My gripe with Doug thusfar is not recruiting, the offense per say (although it is a by product of it), the rules of the program, etc. My gripe is that it appears as if he is afraid to allow the kids to make mistakes, which, in turn does not allow kids to make plays. To elaborate on this thought, it's almost as if cerebral mastery of the playbook trumps talent. I think that is permissable in the NFL when the physcial attributes between first and second string is marginal (obviously there are outliers). I'm not so sure it applies to the college game as much. Marcus Sales is a great example of this. Personally, I would like to see a lot more of Lynch and a lot less of Vaughan, who I believe is a step too slow to often.
I had the fortune of coaching underneath former WVU, Texas Tech, and SC head coach Jim Carlen. Jim had the fortune of coaching Heisman winner Geroge Rodgers in South Carolina. He used a anecdote to describe George. He would say I would run him until he dropped, and there were times I'm sure he didn't even know the play, but he sure knew how to gain yards. I think Doug could learn from that.
I wish he would apply it by given a kids like Kobena, Moore, Hale, Foster 20 plays to master. Maybe giving Kinder a set of plays to operate with, etc. Maybe he already does, but my gut tells me his model is know it all before you can play.
I think as fans, we can get very reactive and emotional. I know I do it all the time. Like 99% of posters on this board, from Milly to OrangePA to Orangenasty, I want Doug to succeed. It's tough to gauge his impact right now because we were so dreadful for so long. I think Trissy threw out the stat that we were 9-17 under Doug against BCS competition. I'm not sure how many people here realize that we were 5-35 under Robinson, and most of those were blowouts? We were probably one of the worst, if not the worst, BCS school in the nation for part of 4 years. He has elevated us from those depths. This is not a school that sits admist a recruiting hotbed like Texas Tech, or has a sugar daddy that has supplied us with otherworldly facilties like Oregon or Oklahoma St.
Our rebuilding process will not happen overnight I'm afraid. This is not Alabama, LSU, or USC to name a few where the turnaround can happen overnight. Doug's blueprint appears to be along the TCU mold, where we are recruitng raw athletes first and establishing positions second. Our athletes come from NYC, where these young men do not lift year round, participate in 7 on 7 camps, or play 12 games a year. These kids need two to three years in a system to physically mature and grasp the game better. Kids coming out of California, texas, and Florida are executing a 150 play offense. I would wager that most in NY have 20. Unfortunately our rebuilding process is going to be that much slower, and we as fans are going to have to be that much more patient.
I am going to with hold full judgement until next season -- we will have a mostly upperclass squad, and the ones filling in will have gameday experience. Defensively we pretty much lose Marinovich and Scott. Offensively we lose Chew, Provo, Bailey, Kay, and Tiller. All replacable.
I'm not going to beat on a dead horse, but clearly Ryan's accuracy holds us back a bit, however, his completions tend to come in bunches -- he is more of a rhythm thrower than a pure thrower. My hope is that we call some easy completions for him early (screens, hitch, slant) then pick up the momentum a bit.
As a premium tidbit, part of the "binder" included a hurry up/no huddle offense that had the ability to be more of a "balanced" spread if that makes some sense to you all. I would think that Northwestern's offense would come to mind. One that can speed up tempo, has a bit of the read option involved, but can also line up under center as well. That was the blueprint from what I was told. It appears as if that still may be part of the blueprint due to the QB's we have recruited in Kinder, Miller (fastest QB on the team when not punching out people), Hunt, and Broyld.
However, I have no idea what happened to that offense. I really don't. I know we worked on it last spring and this spring, only to see none of it during the season. Dave Rhame I think would back me up on this if he could publically do so, although I'm not sure if he can, and I understand that.
If I had to guess, and this point can be debated, we are not seeing this due to fear of Ryan getting injured, which is an indictment of Loeb's ability and Kinder's development as of right now. My second somewhat educated guess is that Doug has elected to keep things very vanilla because he is trying to "hedge" the season per say. I guess an analogy would be taking the air of the ball in hoops. Slow it down, keep it close, and win in the end. This had been relatively successful the last two years up until RU, UCONN, and L'Ville as we have lost the last three games in that same manner.
My gripe with Doug thusfar is not recruiting, the offense per say (although it is a by product of it), the rules of the program, etc. My gripe is that it appears as if he is afraid to allow the kids to make mistakes, which, in turn does not allow kids to make plays. To elaborate on this thought, it's almost as if cerebral mastery of the playbook trumps talent. I think that is permissable in the NFL when the physcial attributes between first and second string is marginal (obviously there are outliers). I'm not so sure it applies to the college game as much. Marcus Sales is a great example of this. Personally, I would like to see a lot more of Lynch and a lot less of Vaughan, who I believe is a step too slow to often.
I had the fortune of coaching underneath former WVU, Texas Tech, and SC head coach Jim Carlen. Jim had the fortune of coaching Heisman winner Geroge Rodgers in South Carolina. He used a anecdote to describe George. He would say I would run him until he dropped, and there were times I'm sure he didn't even know the play, but he sure knew how to gain yards. I think Doug could learn from that.
I wish he would apply it by given a kids like Kobena, Moore, Hale, Foster 20 plays to master. Maybe giving Kinder a set of plays to operate with, etc. Maybe he already does, but my gut tells me his model is know it all before you can play.
I think as fans, we can get very reactive and emotional. I know I do it all the time. Like 99% of posters on this board, from Milly to OrangePA to Orangenasty, I want Doug to succeed. It's tough to gauge his impact right now because we were so dreadful for so long. I think Trissy threw out the stat that we were 9-17 under Doug against BCS competition. I'm not sure how many people here realize that we were 5-35 under Robinson, and most of those were blowouts? We were probably one of the worst, if not the worst, BCS school in the nation for part of 4 years. He has elevated us from those depths. This is not a school that sits admist a recruiting hotbed like Texas Tech, or has a sugar daddy that has supplied us with otherworldly facilties like Oregon or Oklahoma St.
Our rebuilding process will not happen overnight I'm afraid. This is not Alabama, LSU, or USC to name a few where the turnaround can happen overnight. Doug's blueprint appears to be along the TCU mold, where we are recruitng raw athletes first and establishing positions second. Our athletes come from NYC, where these young men do not lift year round, participate in 7 on 7 camps, or play 12 games a year. These kids need two to three years in a system to physically mature and grasp the game better. Kids coming out of California, texas, and Florida are executing a 150 play offense. I would wager that most in NY have 20. Unfortunately our rebuilding process is going to be that much slower, and we as fans are going to have to be that much more patient.
I am going to with hold full judgement until next season -- we will have a mostly upperclass squad, and the ones filling in will have gameday experience. Defensively we pretty much lose Marinovich and Scott. Offensively we lose Chew, Provo, Bailey, Kay, and Tiller. All replacable.
