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Nancy Cantor and Gross are gone. They did their job attempting to kill football that’s for sure.
Hope this is JBs last year
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Nancy Cantor and Gross are gone. They did their job attempting to kill football that’s for sure.
Great BC best a team that was 25-0 and just beat the ref defending national champs
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Not to derail but you think that’s true? I’ve always heard he’s terrible but really the worst?
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Why would you invoke SU lacrosse? It is exactly the opposite situation of what you seem to be lecturing everyone about. There has been no coaching change in years, yet the fortunes of the program have declined considerably.
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Historically big time JB defenders (and rightfully so for a given time period) understand the current situation we have with the team yet is townie the only one correct on this entire matter and what will happen when James Boheem steps aside?
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Im not sure you wanna know...
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He beats Dolan because the Knicks still sell tickets.
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After coach Boeheim we will become Indiana or Georgetown or Siena or OCC.
Be careful what you wish for folks!
Be careful what you wish for folks!
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Wildhack has been here 20 years? Wow I had no idea
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Or the once mighty UCLA, Georgetown, UConn, UNLV
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That's a pretty funny point for a JB sycophant to be making.
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Even if Townie is right, there’s no denying it is time for JB to go.
Not sure how bad it’ll get this year, but if we start next season w/ him and it’s the same scenario, then he absolutely HAS to go- even midseason if need be.
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ESPN is still showcasing the us in the ACC. And by the 90s, all the major conferences were on national TV and we still managed to be a top 10 Program for another 20-25 years. So not sure what the hell you're talking about. JB can’t get top 50 players anymore because he’s 75 years old and close to retirement. We need a young experienced head coach who can pull in top 50 players, like Hop, who will return in another couple years to right the ship.
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He’s taking the very controversial position that sometimes a new coach isn’t as successful as the one he replaces. It’s like Nostradamus is posting here. I for one am convinced, Boeheim must coach until he’s 92. The alternative is far too risky to even consider.
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Yeah, or can he explain how Seton Hall, who was a basement dweller for most of the Big East history, is in the top 25 this season and has made a couple of tourneys recently?
Syracuse was a Northeast power in the 70s before the Big East even existed.
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It’s weird stuff.
Like Doc says, even if townie is right about this, that doesn’t make the decision for him to go, wrong. They are not really as related as he’s making them out to be.
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UCLA was ranked like #2 in the country 3 years ago so thats cool. We've lost like 14+ games 5 years in a row.
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Unless we re-hire Gerg.
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I firmly believe we’ll have a number of great choices who wanna coach the Cuse. If Hop wants back in, you of course, hand him the keys- that’s best case scenario.
But if not, they’ll be coaches knocking on our door to take this job. Ironically, that’s even more likely if JB has a few horrible seasons in a row.
It’s always hard to replace a legend...unless said legend overstays his tenure and has to be coaxed out.
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Indiana was a top 25 program under Crean. They were the overall #1 seed against us in 2013 when we beat them in the sweet 16. Their fan base soured on him because he didn’t advance them far enough in the tourney and they also have crazy expectations (Kentucky like). Archie Miller is righting the ship and will have them back in the top 25.
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Of course we'll have great choices. The Townie tape loop has been running for years but never did, and certainly does not now, deserve to be taken seriously.
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The idea that we're going to be worse if/when/because JB leaves is silly.
1) He is going to leave, at some point. So, where we go from there is largely irrelevant in terms of how much you love JB. Fact is, we are where we are with JB, and it's doubtful he's going to get better in the few remaining years he has left.
2) We just lost to a bunch of teams with coaches i could not even name during the games i was watching. If those schlubs could beat us, with less legacy, fewer/worse resources and facilities, and probably less HS talent, i'm not sure what it would take for us to be better from a coaching standpoint.
3) Coaches don't tend to get better and better through the entirety of their careers. There's an arc. We're not at JB's peak.
4) If you're thinking we currently have a HoF coach, and replacing him means picking from a pool of dudes who are not likely to also reach the HoF, your thinking is flawed. The current HoF coach is not performing at HoF levels. We don't have to replace him at HoF levels in order to be better than we are now. The point isn't to compare an incoming coach with what JB accomplished over the sum of his career. Or even the average of his career. We have to have someone do better than what we are seeing from JB right now.
The story might be different if JB were 60 now. With all he has done, you probably give him leeway, imagining he would evolve during the next 15 years. But, he was already scheduled to retire. He will be retiring soon. There's no space for him to fix all that is wrong.
My only worry about JB retiring concerns how much of his 'residue' is left behind. Does the house need to be cleaned? I have a feeling that Hopkins winning Coach of the Year out west will inspire the admin to just fall back on another one of our own, expecting the same kind of 'success.'
1) He is going to leave, at some point. So, where we go from there is largely irrelevant in terms of how much you love JB. Fact is, we are where we are with JB, and it's doubtful he's going to get better in the few remaining years he has left.
2) We just lost to a bunch of teams with coaches i could not even name during the games i was watching. If those schlubs could beat us, with less legacy, fewer/worse resources and facilities, and probably less HS talent, i'm not sure what it would take for us to be better from a coaching standpoint.
3) Coaches don't tend to get better and better through the entirety of their careers. There's an arc. We're not at JB's peak.
4) If you're thinking we currently have a HoF coach, and replacing him means picking from a pool of dudes who are not likely to also reach the HoF, your thinking is flawed. The current HoF coach is not performing at HoF levels. We don't have to replace him at HoF levels in order to be better than we are now. The point isn't to compare an incoming coach with what JB accomplished over the sum of his career. Or even the average of his career. We have to have someone do better than what we are seeing from JB right now.
The story might be different if JB were 60 now. With all he has done, you probably give him leeway, imagining he would evolve during the next 15 years. But, he was already scheduled to retire. He will be retiring soon. There's no space for him to fix all that is wrong.
My only worry about JB retiring concerns how much of his 'residue' is left behind. Does the house need to be cleaned? I have a feeling that Hopkins winning Coach of the Year out west will inspire the admin to just fall back on another one of our own, expecting the same kind of 'success.'
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Omg, That’s EXACTLY my point. Purdue is a perfect correlation to SU. They’re a basketball school and basketball brand with a rabid fan base. They had a legendary beloved coach (Keady) who stayed past his prime when he couldn’t land the same highly ranked recruits anymore. They kept the job in the Purdue family (like SU will with Hop) and Matt Painter got things rolling again pretty quickly. He landed 3-4 top 100 kids in his 1st class. Heck, they’ve been more consistent than Indiana over the past decade. Michigan State with Izzo taking over for Heathcoat is also similar.
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They were saying worst NFL owner. Dolan is definitely the worst sports owner.
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