How many of these guys will make an NBA roster?

[The General]

Melo is a lock.

MCW as a smooth 6'5 PG will play in the league.

Waiters will make a roster.

KJ I think is a second round pick. His lack of handle really hurts him. He's not taking guys off the bounce in the NBA. I think he could make a team, maybe, or be a 10-day guy like Nichols. But I don't see him sticking.

CJ. Yup. CJ. If he's a legit 6'8 and works his ass off, isn't it possible he could be a Matt Barnes type player? Strictly grunt work, boards, def, rare 3? Yes he has work to do but isn't it possible? Or is he too slow, too limited?

Xmas is a mystery. As of now? No way. But who knows what kind of untapped potential there is? I don't see it yet, so I'll say no.

 

[PoppyHart]

The only one I'd bet my life on is Melo.

After that, I'd say Waiters and KJ have the best chance. Above 80% for KJ, and almost a lock for DW.

Too early to tell on XMAS, Fair, and MCW

No on Scoop, Southerland, Mookie and Triche

 

[RF2044]

The only one I'd bet my life on is Melo.

After that, I'd say Waiters and KJ have the best chance. Above 80% for KJ, and almost a lock for DW.

Too early to tell on XMAS, Fair, and MCW

No on Scoop, Southerland, Mookie and Triche

Pretty much agree across the board.

 

[The General]

I just don't see what KJ does that screams NBA. He has def improved his range. But he can't shoot off the bounce, has limited handle, average athlete, not a great rebounder or passer. I'm guessing his m to m D is a weakness.

He's a good college player. Maybe first team Big East. But what does he do that makes him a commodity on the next level?

You are probably right that he'll get a good look though. Esp. with the new CBA and the need to fill out rosters with cheap players to stay under the cap.

 

[Eric15]

I love Kris Joseph as a player and person, but in my opinion if he were an NBA-quality talent, he'd be in the NBA right now. I think he may bounce around briefly next year, but ultimately he will make a great living overseas and then wouldn't be surprised to see him be a coach or broadcaster.

 

[Scotch]

Melo is a lock.

MCW as a smooth 6'5 PG will play in the league.

Waiters will make a roster.

KJ I think is a second round pick. His lack of handle really hurts him. He's not taking guys off the bounce in the NBA. I think he could make a team, maybe, or be a 10-day guy like Nichols. But I don't see him sticking.

CJ. Yup. CJ. If he's a legit 6'8 and works his ass off, isn't it possible he could be a Matt Barnes type player? Strictly grunt work, boards, def, rare 3? Yes he has work to do but isn't it possible? Or is he too slow, too limited?

Xmas is a mystery. As of now? No way. But who knows what kind of untapped potential there is? I don't see it yet, so I'll say no.

KJ's lack of handle? He handles it like a guard and he's 6'8". It's his best attribute. Granted he's fallen in love with the ineffective crossover in half court situations, but he has great handles for a forward, and it will be a positive when NBA scouts are evaluating him. Christ, Boeheim uses him in the 3 man weave with two guards when he's running clock at the end of games.

 

[dasher]

We don't have a guy that is capable of playing in the NBA. Melo and dion need to stay 2 more years to have a chance. That is the advice I would give them. MCW, he also needs to stay 3 more years. DC2 as well.

 

[The General]

KJ's lack of handle? He handles it like a guard and he's 6'8". It's his best attribute. Granted he's fallen in love with the ineffective crossover in half court situations, but he has great handles for a forward, and it will be a positive when NBA scouts are evaluating him. Christ, Boeheim uses him in the 3 man weave with two guards when he's running clock at the end of games.

Sorry, lack of "NBA" handle. He isn't dribbling past anybody. He isn't creating space with a crossover.

How often has KJ tried to use his handle, and he dribbles it off his leg? He has a nice 2-3 dribble drive. I'd say he has slightly better handle than Wes. The Twolves won't even let Wes put it on the floor. He's strictly pick n pop.

You are right, he has decent handle for college ball. Not for the NBA. He has a lot of wasted dribbles and tries to do too much. Just won't translate.

He's not a 2. He's awfully skinny, not big enough or athletic enough for the 3. I don't know, it's hard, great kid, damn good player but the NBA is just different. You gotta do something really well or be a great athlete or have size.

 

[Rocco]

Melo and Dion. KJo has Europe all over him.

 

[Scotch]

Sorry, lack of "NBA" handle. He isn't dribbling past anybody. He isn't creating space with a crossover.

When KJ tries to use his handle, he dribbles it off his leg. He has a nice 2-3 dribble drive. I'd say he has slightly better handle than Wes. The Twolves won't even let Wes put it on the floor. He's strictly pick n pop.

You are right, he has decent handle for college ball. Not for the NBA. He has a lot of wasted dribbles and tries to do too much. Just won't translate.

I agree he over-dribbles (if that's a term), but his handle is in another league from Wes. Wes literally can't put the ball on the floor, even in a one-dribble to the hoop situation, which is why he's struggling in the NBA. Kris has a very solid handle for his size, and a decent first step. I think his handle is NBA ready, especially if he combines it with an improved jumper.

 

[The General]

I agree he over-dribbles (if that's a term), but his handle is in another league from Wes. Wes literally can't put the ball on the floor, even in a one-dribble to the hoop situation, which is why he's struggling in the NBA. Kris has a very solid handle for his size, and a decent first step. I think his handle is NBA ready, especially if he combines it with an improved jumper.

Yeah ur probably right. Quite a bit better than Wes. I just don't see KJ getting by people, shooting over people and he's not a great shooter off the bounce. He needs to be set or get to the rim.

 

[Scotch]

Yeah ur probably right. Quite a bit better than Wes. I just don't see KJ getting by people, shooting over people and he's not a great shooter off the bounce. He needs to be set or get to the rim.

I generally agree, I don't know if he does anything well enough to stick in the NBA.

 

[Ghost]

Yeah ur probably right. Quite a bit better than Wes. I just don't see KJ getting by people, shooting over people and he's not a great shooter off the bounce. He needs to be set or get to the rim.

Agreed, his handle is considerably than Wes. That's a fact. I think with his skill set he'll get his chance. He's pretty average in almost all categories for a guy his size by NBA standards. Who knows, he'll probably get a chance to play, and he could stick if his game continues improving. I could see it going either way, but I bet he gets at least a taste.

Melo - no doubt.

Waiters - Not a clue. Feels like he'll get his shot too, I'd be surprised if never played a game in the NBA.

 

[triplethrea]

For all the Joseph to NBA questions I present this:

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Trending-Prospects-12222011--3827/

These guys are usually spot on and the article is from last week.

Looking forward, Joseph should continue to get heavy attention from scouts all season with Syracuse likely to remain a strong contender for a #1 seed, and brings some appealing tools to the table from an NBA perspective. His combination of size, scoring instincts, spot-up shooting, and ability to attack on straight-line drives makes him a good fit for a role-playing 3 at the next level, though his defense still remains a question mark. Joseph's also made some slight strides in the little areas this season, increasing his rebounding and cutting down his turnovers, things that definitely won't hurt his stock.

Joseph's draft position may be hurt by his advanced age (he just turned 23) and the depth of this year's class, but he could find himself in the first round mix when it's all said and done if he continues to play well and his team continues to win.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz1iMWuli8j
http://www.draftexpress.com​

 

[KaiserUEO]

i cant believe you stopped at 6!!!

wow, i wouldve thought they had 11.

how can mookie not make a roster???

he will be the 3pt specialist off the bench!!

Oh Lord

 

[rrlbees]

IMO, the player with the best skills that translate to the NBA (tho not for 2 more years) is MCW. Melo gets a shot because of his size. Everyone else, I have no idea really.

 

[Jake]

I'm not sure I'm seeing a lot of skills on this team that translate to the next level. Melo's size makes him the most draftable, especially with the improvement we've seen.

I agree with the orginial poster on Kjo. He has to play the "2" in the NBA, and he simply doesn't have the shot or handle IMO. He'll get a look, but he will have an awesome career in europe.

Dion has the body and athleticisim. Needs to work on his range, but he'll get a look. Don't see it for Triche, Scoop, James or CJ at this point. Way too early on xmas, MCW or Cooney. Keita - no.

 

[The General]

Yeah, Fair is a long shot indeed. That's overly optimistic of me, just like what he brings.

MCW I basically include because JB said he'd play in the NBA (via Andy Katz pre-season). And the obvious physical tools.

 

[orangefan13]

How is it Dion has a post being our best guard ever since the 80s and in this one we are doubting hes NBA?

I think MCW, Fab and Dion are almost definites right now. MCW is a amazing passer seriously possibly unignorantly our best ever. And thats not talking about the MCDAA skills competiion but what he is doing this year.

Xmas is there body wise just needs to develop the skill set to add to his physicality. Freshmen still developing to the speed of college let alone NBA.

Fair its SF or nothing which means he has to be very well rounded. Cooney haven't seen much of.

Joseph biggest problem right now is his health. He really has put some strength on in the offseason.
He is full of clarity before and after game.
Just needs to learn to stop the ignorant heat check. NBA players don't put up 0 in college to often.

Triche has all this year and next year to add some isolation to his game if he wants a shot at the NBA.

 

[KaiserUEO]

its Melo.

maybe waiters.

and thats it.

although, mcw could if he gets bigger and gets a hell of lot better.

 

[The General]

its Melo.

maybe waiters.

and thats it.

although, mcw could if he gets bigger and gets a hell of lot better.

JB seems to think MCW will play in the league someday. At least that's what he told Katz pre-season. Now, that could be hyperbole. But I'm inclined to trust JB.

I never said they'd all make it btw, just thought it would be interesting to see what people thought about those that are at least maybes. Yes, Fair was pushing it but I certainly don't think I went out on some huge limb taking a look at those 6.

Nor did I say Fair, KJ or Rak would stick. I just wanted to see what people thought. You threw the sarcastic condescending "why not add Mookie?" at me. I'm not 12. I wasn't saying the whole team would play in the NBA.

 

[bnoro]

How is it Dion has a post being our best guard ever since the 80s and in this one we are doubting hes NBA?

Scottie Reynolds was one of Nova's best ever and he didn't even get a look. The college game doesn't translate to the NBA sometimes, especially if you are a guard that can't shoot. And don't use Rondo as an example because he is one of the best pure passers of the last 20 years.

 

[Ghost]

Scottie Reynolds was one of Nova's best ever and he didn't even get a look. The college game doesn't translate to the NBA sometimes, especially if you are a guard that can't shoot. And don't use Rondo as an example because he is one of the best pure passers of the last 20 years.

He's been in camp for the Jazz the past two years. He's getting a look, but not much. About the same as Paul Harris did.

 

[007]

its Melo.

maybe waiters.

and thats it.

although, mcw could if he gets bigger and gets a hell of lot better.

Totally agree with you on the NBA prospects. Love this team; think we have 7-8 guys who will play "professionally," just not in the NBA. Joseph will get drafted, but he doesn't have a position.

 

[longislandcuse]

I watch the Knicks and if you look at the players on that team outside Melo/Chandler/Amare, you may lower your expectations as to what it takes to play in the NBA.