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If 4 million is a lot of money how in the world does 23 mil not last forever...?I guess somebody hasn't heard about Harvey's alleged financial issues.
If 4 million is a lot of money how in the world does 23 mil not last forever...?I guess somebody hasn't heard about Harvey's alleged financial issues.
Also...McW was physically ready. Grant and Ennis to a extent could have improved that at cuse.Yeah, but I didn't appreciate the different type of defense that he would face in the NBA - not a lot of 5'10" guys picking your pocket there.
FWIW, he played on one of the worst teams of all time.
Must be the tattoo.AI is the worst, 200+ mil. I hear Tyson may have been worse but he still looks rich.
Oh! Oh! You mean things like our predictions and past probabilities aren't the actual draft event, right? Can I post a ludicrous Grant draft selection equation worth of publication in Annals of Improbable Research (AIR)? Can I? Wait... you're saying nobody wants that? Um... OK.It works if you can get weird with Bayesian stuff, but really, nobody wants that.
You're the Grant's bookeeper? It's safe to assume they have money, but it would have been safe to assume that AI, Antoine Walker, and Derrick Coleman are sitting on hundreds of millions.
Or you can make your decision against what you are told at the time. He and his family only heard what they wanted to hear. Heck even we heard he wasn't ready. How did they and you miss that?One of the things that annoys me most is when people believe that the end result is what determines if something was a good decision or not. You can only make the decision based on what you know at that time. When Jerami declared, he was a 1st round pick, with the possibility to be a late lottery pick if he proved scouts he could shoot in workouts. He reportedly sucked in workouts, and his stock fell, causing him to slip to the 2nd round. At the time when he made the decision, I highly doubt he and his family were expecting that he would suck in workouts.
And coming back does not guarantee he would go higher. I'm fairly certain Jerami would have been picked right around where he got picked, if not later, had he come back for a junior season. If he only showed modest improvements as a junior, his stock would have plummeted even more, and then he'd end up being like James McAdoo or CJ, and just go into a tailspin that you can't correct.
Both Grant and Ennis made the right choices for themselves. They both would have likely been 2nd round picks if they returned, and would have kicked themselves if they came back for another year just to be a 2nd round pick.
With another year in the weight room and being more of the focus in our offense, he was far more likely to improve his game and his draft status.
If so, they should all go pro after their freshman years. After all, they will all go downhill from there.
Staying another year and being the focus of our offense did not help CJ Fair.
CJ Fair's percentages were worse and his game didn't improve. Had same deficincies as he did as a junior. And that's why our offense was so inconsistent.
Yeah, but I didn't appreciate the different type of defense that he would face in the NBA - not a lot of 5'10" guys picking your pocket there.
FWIW, he played on one of the worst teams of all time.
Right you are. Grant isn't CJFair though . CJ would have had to go to tryouts last year too and would have been in the same position after being evaluated. He already knew he had things to work on. He didn't achieve his goals. To think he would have been able to hide these weaknesses in workouts last year doesn't make sense.Staying another year and being the focus of our offense did not help CJ Fair.
Staying another year and being the focus of our offense did not help CJ Fair.
So then why did he fall down into the second round?If not that they all go "downhill", it's that the NBA's mindset right now is based in potential.
A guy who plays 3 mins a game in some Brazil league just got picked in the 1st round ahead of Shabazz Napier.
The longer they stay, the more they are picked apart.
Or you can make your decision against what you are told at the time. He and his family only heard what they wanted to hear. Heck even we heard he wasn't ready. How did they and you miss that?
As for dropping due to staying, your logic escapes me. With another year in the weight room and being more of the focus in our offense, he was far more likely to improve his game and his draft status. Why on earth do you think he would digress? If he is that bad and would digress in college, then the same logic would suggest he will digress in the pros. Just doesn't make any sense for such a young player.
As certain as you are that he would stagnate, I am even more certain he would have raised his draft status. But I guess all players resist improvement as their careers go along. Is that your thinking? If so, they should all go pro after their freshman years. After all, they will all go downhill from there.
So then why did he fall down into the second round?
Agreed for the most part. Damn, takes the fun out of it.Not as good as he/they/we thought he was.. Maybe next year he doesn't get picked at all? Maybe he comes back and becomes a 1st round pick? I don't know...I just know it's not as obvious as some are acting like it is.
if you think that # 38 is your absolute draft ceiling then by all means jump. pretty high bar to limbo under.
The only scenario that really would make sense to me re: Grant is that he and his family didn't like how things were going at SU. Whether it was coaching, the structure of offense, or the prognosis of the offense this season.
Who was he and his camp listening to? Why wouldn't you come back, get stronger, and be probably the main guy the offense is built around? Something Boeheim I'm sure told him since he did mention something to that effect in a recent podcast regarding SU/NBA Draft with Axe. One would think Harvey/Horace would know he wasn't first round material based on his current skill set, no?