It’s Portal time!

[pwong]

Is this really true? Do D1 programs actually have better walkons?

Most walk ons have some sort of connection with the coaching staff in order to be a preferred walk on. Sometimes there are cases where a regular student makes the team as a walk on, through trying out.

We had Brendan Paul (played with Buddy at Brewster) who transferred to a D2 school last year. Couple years prior, Braedon Bayer transferred from D3 to be a walk on at Cuse and then transferred to Siena (as a scholly guy) after the Mich St game. Christian White transferred from Monmouth to be a walk on at Cuse and then transferred to a D2 school as a grad student.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I mean unless this is musical chairs and they took a chair away everyone should theoretically have a place to go. The number of portal entrants should equal the number of spots In total no?

I think that's very optimistic thinking. At a certain point, people have different skills, different traits, size, speed, etc., that they look for in a player to fit into their roster.

Not every person is a round peg that will go into another round hole.

Not all holes are round in this game. Each team has different requirements. Not every guy is guaranteed to fit what the coach is looking for from a player.

A lot of these guys are going to have drop down a level to get a landing spot. I wouldn't be surprised if it was 30-50% of them all. Not all of these guys are "all that". Not all of them are good enough to play in Division 1.

 

[cuseattle]

If Anselem hits the portal, id love to replace him with Vlad Goldin 7-1 transfer from Texas Tech

I've been checking the board for Frank news every hour today. Will be doing the same tomorrow and after until we know.
I'd be surprised if we reach out to another big before Frank makes his intentions known.

 

[Cusesky8214]

Real nice pick up for TB

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Most walk ons have some sort of connection with the coaching staff in order to be a preferred walk on. Sometimes there are cases where a regular student makes the team as a walk on, through trying out.

We had Brendan Paul (played with Buddy at Brewster) who transferred to a D2 school last year. Couple years prior, Braedon Bayer transferred from D3 to be a walk on at Cuse and then transferred to Siena (as a scholly guy) after the Mich St game. Christian White transferred from Monmouth to be a walk on at Cuse and then transferred to a D2 school as a grad student.

That's a good call, I went blank on the PWO scenario.

 

[Cusesky8214]

Yuck

 

[jdubs30]

Real nice pick up for TB

He is gonna destroy us on the glass next year

 

[Cusesky8214]

Wonder how many scholarship players we are rolling with this year.

 

[orangepassion]

Wonder how many scholarship players we are rolling with this year.

I think Jim is content w/ bringing in Jimmy and rolling w/ what we have

 

[UpstateSM]

There’s no way we go into the fall with less than 12 scholarship guys. That would be coaching malpractice given the circumstances.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

There’s no way we go into the fall with less than 12 scholarship guys. That would be coaching malpractice given the circumstances.

I got bad news for you.

 

[UpstateSM]

I got bad news for you.

Even if we wait until summer and bring in 3-4 lower level transfers/3 star recruits haha riding with single digit scholarship players would be indefensible

 

[Cusesky8214]

Not portal news but huge for Nova

 

[UpstateSM]

Not portal news but huge for Nova

If they get JRE back that’s easily a top 3 team

 

[Cusesky8214]

 

[miamicuse]

I disagree with this. There are the same number of spots as always and the same number of players as always (except the seniors who stay, which wont be many, and they dont take a scholly spot away).

Anybody who is D1 caliber is going to find a spot someplace unless teams choose to carry fewer scholarship players than normal, which I think is very unlikely.

Does that mean everybody will be happy with where they land? No. But seeing as how there is going to be something close to a third of all college basketball players transferring, its very obvious a lot (maybe even most) players weren't happy anyway.

However, having N spots with N players does not mean they are all pluggable into the open slots.

Let's take a really small sample size. Let's say there are only five schools total. Let's assume Syracuse has 1 PG transferring, Duke has 1 SG transferring, North Carolina has 1 Center transferring, Louisville has 1 small forward transferring and FSU has a power forward transferring.

That's five schools with five spots with five players. Yet no one can fit anywhere into an open slot except the ones they originally vacated.

Granted, it's a small sample, but it illustrates that 1000 slots with 1000 players does not mean there is a seat for everyone practically speaking. Then add in other factors like school location, proximity to home, current roster, future roster, style of play, quality of pizza and hundreds of other factors players use to make their decisions, I think there will be players left standing.

I bet there will be players returning instead of transferring.

There may be those forced to take a step down because they burned the bridges on their way out. Some might be forced to go pro knowing they are not ready.

 

[Sherman20]

Real nice pick up for TB

He is gonna destroy us on the glass next year

I liked this kid and thought we should go after him if Quincy isn’t coming back, and I guess that’s still TBD.

 

[Briancuse]

I think Jim is content w/ bringing in Jimmy and rolling w/ what we have

Other than Benny that is a pretty unathletic team.

 

[Cusesky8214]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Long Duck Dong?

 

[General20]

However, having N spots with N players does not mean they are all pluggable into the open slots.

Let's take a really small sample size. Let's say there are only five schools total. Let's assume Syracuse has 1 PG transferring, Duke has 1 SG transferring, North Carolina has 1 Center transferring, Louisville has 1 small forward transferring and FSU has a power forward transferring.

That's five schools with five spots with five players. Yet no one can fit anywhere into an open slot except the ones they originally vacated.

Granted, it's a small sample, but it illustrates that 1000 slots with 1000 players does not mean there is a seat for everyone practically speaking. Then add in other factors like school location, proximity to home, current roster, future roster, style of play, quality of pizza and hundreds of other factors players use to make their decisions, I think there will be players left standing.

I bet there will be players returning instead of transferring.

There may be those forced to take a step down because they burned the bridges on their way out. Some might be forced to go pro knowing they are not ready.

The flaw in that thinking is that it assumes that basketball teams are looking for one of each of the old traditional positions (and the corresponding back ups). Those days are long over. Baylor started 4 guards and a forward. We started 3 guards and 2 forwards. Players are long and athletic enough now to do many things on the court. Teams are looking for skill. If you're good enough, they will want you.

That's not to say everybody is going to find a perfect landing spot, but what this whole transfer wave should be teaching us is how flawed the staus quo was and how unhappy the players really are with it.

There simply aren't going to be a bunch of players left out in the cold when you rearrange things but ultimately have the same number of spots for the same number of players.

 

[orangepassion]

Other than Benny that is a pretty unathletic team.

Agree with you. I'm not saying I love it, just where I think JB is at. He said it himself this year-He's very loyal to the guys who he feels have produced for him. So much so, that I'd be very surprised if he brings in anyone else (besides Jimmy) to really challenge them for playing time. And before someone says he brought in Swider, he had no choice, he had practically no forwards left. A guy like Symir Torrence was perfect-He didn't have to recruit him and he likely won't challenge the status quo.

 

[Cusesky8214]

 

[ar inj]

Statisticallt s

The flaw in that thinking is that it assumes that basketball teams are looking for one of each of the old traditional positions (and the corresponding back ups). Those days are long over. Baylor started 4 guards and a forward. We started 3 guards and 2 forwards. Players are long and athletic enough now to do many things on the court. Teams are looking for skill. If you're good enough, they will want you.

That's not to say everybody is going to find a perfect landing spot, but what this whole transfer wave should be teaching us is how flawed the staus quo was and how unhappy the players really are with it.

There simply aren't going to be a bunch of players left out in the cold when you rearrange things but ultimately have the same number of spots for the same number of players.

Statically speaking, it is reported by the NCAA that prior to this year between 30 - 40% of Division 1 men's basketball portal entrants transferred down a division.
If school's lost money or had to cut budgets because of COVID they may elect not to have as many players on scholarship or for their own internal purposes a senior who comes back because of COVID may not count against the NCAA limit but may count against the school's internal accounting limit.
Not everyone is going to find a Division 1 home.
And all this will create a backlog that will impact HS seniors and their ability to find a spot

 

[Cusesky8214]