JB on McC

[RMH44]

This has gotten embarrassing for Jim at this point. I dont care if he is playing poorly, this is an 18 year old kid who a grown man publically bashes twice a week. Call it what u will, i call it being a bully and a coward. What adult trashes teenagers? Unreal.

For what its worth, he was just as good if not better than Roberson last night. Not saying much, but i didnt see him rip in to Tyler.

Are you serious? Do we need to pull-up your posting history?

 

[TBCuse11]

Are you serious? Do we need to pull-up your posting history?

I was unaware that my thoughts on Trevor's shortcomings made it out to millions in the national media and outlets, or that he was made aware of them, or that i was his COACH.
are u really comparing the two? Wow. I guess thats your right...

Speaking of Trevor, he has had at least 5 games where he was worse than anything McC has done. Yet he played 35+ mins each time and received ZERO public flogging. If u dont see the double standard Jim has with McC, then i cant help you bro...

 

[TBCuse11]

Are you serious? Do we need to pull-up your posting history?

PS - touche...

 

[Toga]

I understand your sentiment but how does he reply to reporters who ask questions about CM, tell them he is a wonderful kid and a great player? Does he say no comment? It's obvious to any person who has any iota of an understanding about BBall that CM is not playing well and anybody who knows anything about how highly rate that his play is down right awful. If JB says no comment, everybody here will be on his case for being grumpy with the press, or nonresponsive or what ever.

"Not every player responds well to me being a jackass to him publicly after every game, so I'm going to try other approaches to try to maximize Chris' game."

 

[Cusefan0307]

I was unaware that my thoughts on Trevor's shortcomings made it out to millions in the national media and outlets, or that he was made aware of them, or that i was his COACH.
are u really comparing the two? Wow. I guess thats your right...

Speaking of Trevor, he has had at least 5 games where he was worse than anything McC has done. Yet he played 35+ mins each time and received ZERO public flogging. If u dont see the double standard Jim has with McC, then i cant help you bro...

McCullough has had 7 straight games of less than 7 points. Cooney has had two games like that all year. You want everyone else to be realistic, maybe you should take some of your own advice.

 

[Czar]

McCullough has had 7 straight games of less than 7 points. Cooney has had two games like that all year. You want everyone else to be realistic, maybe you should take some of your own advice.

This criticism with Cooney has always been his efficiency. He's better than he was last year but he still has a lot to improve in terms of making the most of his shot attempts.

 

[TBCuse11]

He has said at times that maybe he needs to work harder on conditioning them, and things of that nature. So yes.

but he NEVER takes the blame for failing to adjust or a poor play call or scheme. Never.

Egomaniac. AS are most coaches though...

 

[TBCuse11]

McCullough has had 7 straight games of less than 7 points. Cooney has had two games like that all year. You want everyone else to be realistic, maybe you should take some of your own advice.

sigh. Cooney gets 3 times as many shots as Chris. Are u implying that Trevor's 6 for 21 game was a good one (for example)? Thats worse than anything Chris has done. Give Chris 21 shots, he will have double digits points as well. as would anyone (outside of maybe Buss)

 

[Cusefan0307]

sigh. Cooney gets 3 times as many shots as Chris. Are u implying that Trevor's 6 for 21 game was a good one (for example)? Thats worse than anything Chris has done. Give Chris 21 shots, he will have double digits points as well. as would anyone (outside of maybe Buss)

We considering he went 1-7 with three points last night, I think he would of went 3-21 with 9 points.

 

[SoBeCuse]

The last 14 games chris didnt take the ball at his defender nearly ever, he did like 6-7 times today and scored on one of them. Just glad to see him attack off the dribble in the halfcourt, for the first time ever at this level.

He did this at MSG earlier in the season. I just think he is afraid of contact and/or doesn't want to get stripped or something. He is a finesse player to put it mildly. If he stays one more year in school, bulks up, and works on his game then he should be a force. Just not this year.

 

[SUbear]

i'd agree. lack of strength underneath? sure fair rap. lack of effort? don't buy it at all.

Lack of effort is basically on the defensive and rebounding side of the game. He does not get back on defense ever, he is out of position on defense often, and his effort for his size in rebounding is not great.
Almost all players give effort on the offensive end, he is just not very successful on that end right now, probably partly a strength issue.
For Boeheim and most successful coaches, if you can not or will not do the defensive and rebounding required you are not worth that much.

 

[AZOrange]

Players react much more to what is said to them on the court/bench/locker room than what is said in a press conference. Not sure if you've noticed the screaming and foul language that comes out of coaches mouths at those moments. I mean coach k might be the scariest person ever. This presser stuff is nonsense.

As for cmac I don't notice a lack of effort. I do think he lacks some bball iq and I don't think his talent level is commensurate with his legend. It's not just strength.

 

[pearl31]

then i cant help you bro...

I'm afraid you're the one that could use some help, bro

 

[pearl31]

Lack of effort is basically on the defensive and rebounding side of the game. He does not get back on defense ever, he is out of position on defense often, and his effort for his size in rebounding is not great.
Almost all players give effort on the offensive end, he is just not very successful on that end right now, probably partly a strength issue.
For Boeheim and most successful coaches, if you can not do the defensive and rebounding required you are not worth that much.

Chris, by and large, coasts on defense. Virtually never fully engaged

 

[Garbs]

I'm willing to bet if you google "Bill Self Cliff Alexander" there are 500 less articles about Bill Self trashing his freshman.

http://patternofbasketball.blogspot.com/2014/12/bill-self-and-cliff-alexander.html

 

[SUbear]

JB needs to

And who exactly are you to tell a 900plus winning coach that he should ? Doubt very much he gives a fig for your advice, and rightly so. You are free to criticize his methods, but those methods have been pretty successful over a long period of time, so I think it is you who may want to consider modifying your language, at least until you are as successful as JB, which you never will be.

 

[cusetown1]

I'm afraid you're the one that could use some help, bro

Master and commander of the board Depression Festival.

 

[orangefan13]

jb treats his kids like men always has

 

[realorange]

I was unaware that my thoughts on Trevor's shortcomings made it out to millions in the national media and outlets, or that he was made aware of them, or that i was his COACH.
are u really comparing the two? Wow. I guess thats your right...

Speaking of Trevor, he has had at least 5 games where he was worse than anything McC has done. Yet he played 35+ mins each time and received ZERO public flogging. If u dont see the double standard Jim has with McC, then i cant help you bro...

JB has been quoted as saying that Trevor doesn't have to prove himself (to JB) that he already has.

 

[rrlbees]

People criticizing JB for being mean, surly, curmudgeonly, etc. need to go up to the post game section and watch his presser. Taking some of the comments out of context and tenor make them a lot different than some translate them.

Some people are taking whatever they can to push their agendas.

 

[Francis03]

I love seeing the constant back and forths about whether McCullough is putting in enough effort on the court, like that's the reason he's getting stripped or failing to secure rebounds and unable to finish through contact.

I really cannot stress this enough. There is one thing, and only one thing, that Chris McCullough needs:

It's really simple. That is really the only thing standing in his way of being an elite player.

Could use that as well.

 

[NineOneSeven]

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Could use that as well.

We need JarheadJim to put together a program for Chris. In a few months time, he'll be Ronnie Coleman out there.

 

[SaltLakeOrange]

Easy say McCollough isn't playing well and he would be the first person to say he needs to play better. JB instead goes more direct which he can get away with because of who he is but he hasn't ripped others on the team right now like this.

That's absolutely untrue! Last night he was just as hard on Tyler as he was on Chris. He was also critical of Kaleb, Trevor and Mike...

 

[dyedorange]

I think Xtreme has it right when he said McC is sure he's ready for the NBA. JB is trying to tell him he isn't and maybe McC is skating more than trying to get better. That would explain the excessive wrath he's giving out.

Nailed it.

 

[dyedorange]

Maybe he can leave the verbal tear downs in the Melo Center, the locker room, the sideline, and every other private arena he has, and not insult and belittle the kid who six months ago was being talked up as Jim's crown jewel. Instead, he's become a casualty in a public dick measuring contest with NBA pundits. Rather than making a sly, jokey remark and say "Looks like Chris was closer to my evaluation than those NBA scouts" it becomes constant tear downs of Chris, personally. I find it funny that since the Forde sniping back in November, Boeheim hasn't said his name since but instead uses Chris as a proxy.

That would be pretty malicious on JB's part. We've all seen how petty he can be, but we've also seen him talk on many occasions about how one of the main reasons he coaches is his love of the kids, and his desire to make them better. I just can't see him using Chris in the way you're describing.

IMO, what seems more likely is that JB is unsatisfied with Chris' effort, has told him so repeatedly behind closed doors, and decided he's going to really try and get the kid's attention by making the comments public. I think JB's using the only leverage he has left: embarrass the kid publicly in order to motivate him. And maybe this is putting too much faith in him, but because he doesn't do this with every player, I have to believe he's made a strategic decision that A) Chris can handle it, and B) He NEEDS it in order to get better. If that's the case, I don't have a problem with this approach at all.