Jesse Edwards in portal and transfers to WVU

[Cuse181]

Elijah Moore

a 2024 guy ranked in the 70s

probably a good player, but not a game changer

 

[jdubs30]

Hasn't played a second. We have no idea if he's a game changer or not.

Well you do realize NIL just started right?

 

[orangenauburn]

Does any of this put Wildhack or Kent on the hot seat with the board?

It's been a mess how it has played out, publicly

 

[PauliePeppas]

Hasn't played a second. We have no idea if he's a game changer or not.

And if he will actually make it to campus

 

[orangefog]

Who has Weitsman deliver? We lost Flip, we lost another to Tennessee and a couple of others. In hind sight, there was more bluster than production. We haven't had a game changer in years.

He wasn't involved in that cycle.

 

[capeorange]

If we can’t keep Jesse we aren’t getting those guys.

Then we'll just have to bring in some "diamonds in the rough" and "under the radar" players.

 

[djcon57]

Well you do realize NIL just started right?

Not really.

Also, I was told Adam bringing in celebs would help our team for like the past 5 years. What happened?

 

[shu 49]

I’m sorry, I’ve tried to hold off posting much about this, but AW is simply all about himself. I don’t blame the school one bit for cutting ties. I know for a fact we have other NIL people we can turn to.

Jesse leaving was about us having a $ limit, and him realizing other schools could easily beat it. Can’t blame him.

Either we compete money wise or we find a way. AW was one of the ways. We lose a guy who should still be here. It’s bull sheet.

 

[pwong]

Elijah Moore

He’s a top 75 kid, it’s not like AW brought in any 5 stars or immediate impact players like we hoped he could.

 

[Cuseball]

Id be willing to bet its a $ limit for Jesse, not a cap for all players.

Im not paying $100 for a lb of sirloin.

well we couldn't match the $ limit for Moore. Couldn't match it for Jesse. let's see what we can afford? I am not hopeful

 

[Cuse181]

Does any of this put Wildhack or Kent on the hot seat with the board?

It's been a mess how it has played out, publicly

I doubt it, im not sure the board will fire anyone over a non-alumni booster airing some dirty laundry.

I also highly doubt any of these actions were taken without discussion with the BoT

 

[Scott11]

None of that has anything to do with NIL.

Of course it does. There are companies that the university pays millions of dollars to for goods and service. The university needs to make them make donations to the 315 Foundation to keep their contracts. It happens all over the philanthropic world. Our NIL program will not be successful if we sit on our ass and wait for one big fish.

 

[oldpinepoint]

I doubt it, im not sure the board will fire anyone over a non-alumni booster airing some dirty laundry.

I also highly doubt any of these actions were taken without discussion with the BoT

I honestly don’t know how long Kent has left, how long has he been here? 9 years or so? Not even sure how old he is

 

[OrlandoCuse]

why does this program feel like it's just continually sucking more and more each year/week/day? This isn't and hasn't been fun for a while now..

Because it is. Poor leadership at the top and lack of vision for the future and adapting to the changing landscape. Hoping for a return to the glory days.

Syracuse sports are basically sunk if they can’t figure it out at the top. They’ll basically be Colgate or Holy Cross in 20 years.

I know that is harsh but that’s the way I see it playing out based on current trajectory and leadership philosophy.

 

[Scott11]

It actually doesn't mean that. Although I don't expect us to land someone like Hunter. What this means is that we couldn't make Edwards work because of his unique situation. Time will tell if we can't compete for most U.S. kids.

It wasn't bout his unique situation. It was about $. Anything else is just excuse making.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Just watched Moneyball last night. We are the Oakland A's. We're not going to outspend the Yankees or the Red Sox so we have to find the Scott Hatteberg and Jeremy Giambi's of the world.

We’re closer to the Oakland A’s AAA farm club at the moment

 

[dasher]

Of course it does. There are companies that the university pays millions of dollars to for goods and service. The university needs to make them make donations to the 315 Foundation to keep their contracts. It happens all over the philanthropic world. Our NIL program will not be successful if we sit on our ass and wait for one big fish.

Make them? That is illegal. It's called extortion, Scott. Does it happen in business. Sometimes. It also sometimes blows up in the face of companies and people like that who do it. You want to risk your job and future on that?

 

[Cuseball]

It actually doesn't mean that. Although I don't expect us to land someone like Hunter. What this means is that we couldn't make Edwards work because of his unique situation. Time will tell if we can't compete for most U.S. kids.

but what doesn't make sense is we had more than a year to work on how to make his unique situation work, the fact we couldn't figure out a solution seems to indicate we are unprepared (in many ways) to compete in the current environment

 

[Cuse181]

It wasn't bout his unique situation. It was about $. Anything else is just excuse making.

didnt the .com article say it was because they couldnt figure out a clean way to do the international payments?

 

[DoctahLexus]

Everything else a side for a moment, Weitsman was trying to land guys while the head coach position in the future was a mystery and the current team was on a trajectory to not even make the NIT tournament. Those are sizable obstacles.

 

[dasher]

Everything else a side for a moment, Weitsman was trying to land guys while the head coach position in the future was a mystery and the current team was on a trajectory to not even make the NIT tournament. Those are sizable obstacles.

But we are told it is all about $$$ And he was the one talking about getting 5 star players.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Not hiring from outside the program was a mistake.

Not gutting the entire Syracuse administration has been a longstanding mistake. The old blue hairs are stuck in 1980 while the rest of the college sports landscape is preparing for 2030.

 

[dasher]

It wasn't bout his unique situation. It was about $. Anything else is just excuse making.

No Scott. It was about his unique situation. And that unique situation involved around getting him, by the rules, money

 

[Cuse'91]

But we are told it is all about $$$ And he was the one talking about getting 5 star players.

When the $ is about the same; playing on a Tourney team, with other good players, can be relevant.

 

[hoopsupstate]

Why should we be surprised we’ve lost maybe our top three players? The football team lost two of their very best defensive players because of NIL. This is probably just the beginning.