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John and Fran need to go

elimunelson said:
U get one year more if u are putting in an honest effort

This is not effort. Wildhack knows best but this is just giving up. In any business you lose your job if u aren’t working. This is mailing it in
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Is it Fran or the kids
 
oldpinepoint said:
Is it Fran or the kids
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Coach is coaching kids. It’s always the coach here. Always

I wonder as I’ve asked a few times what’s the upside of this job for another year vs hitching w lane at LSU and being a 1mm per year asst coach where he can cook as a recruiter
 
elimunelson said:
Coach is coaching kids. It’s always the coach here. Always

I wonder as I’ve asked a few times what’s the upside of this job for another year vs hitching w lane at LSU and being a 1mm per year asst coach where he can cook as a recruiter
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Disagree with your assessment that it’s always on the coach. I’m not saying Fran did or did not give up but a season like this can certainly lead to kids giving up. I don’t get the sense that FB gives up
 
bnoro said:
True, but at least we didn't go 4-8 with our first team QB healthy all year and the greatest NFL coach of all time on our sidelines.
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As both a SU and Carolina grad, it hurts that you are spot on. The Bills fan/season ticket holder in me thought the "Chapel Bill" experience, with a side dish of "Jor-Don", would not go well. I hate being right and continue to root for the laundry. Still, I think from a coaching standpoint, I like the Orange's upside more than the Heels' upside.
 
WoadBlue said:
Losing at Home to BC is one thing, Losing to BC at Home by 22 is another and much worse thing.
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Woad my brother, we both love Carolina, but don't let our Carolina-Blue colored glasses miss what an absolute disaster this year has been for the Heels. If you don't agree, I can give you 10 million reasons why things have gone bad. I hope he gets an NFL job though I doubt it. GO ORANGE! GO HEELS!
 
baggerbob said:
Nixon is the one who needs to be gone , his lack of anything near an offense put the defense on an island with no way off all year after the Clemson game.
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I hear you but his game plans last year worked so he does have the capability.
Why he didn't implement some of last years plays this year is head scratching. They weren't anything special. Where were the quick over the middle short passes that I remember, or the quick screens to the running back just to name a few? Where were the short passes to the tight ends? I understand the athletes were different but we still have good hands receivers and what better plays for the young untested quarterback is the short quick pass? These type of plays when connecting do wonders for qb's confidence.
Honestly, it looked and felt like a different OC was calling the plays.
 
orange7 said:
More and more ppl seem to be agreeing with me so that is good to see. This week has been a terrible weekend for our big sports. Coaching. Coaching. Coaching. I have seen more teams quit this week than I have in years past.
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Hmm. Perhaps, the foreseeable result of the modern day, cough, cough, "student athlete" in today's NIL and transfer portal era.
 
bnoro said:
True, but at least we didn't go 4-8 with our first team QB healthy all year and the greatest NFL coach of all time on our sidelines.
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UNC beat Syracuse at home. We win that game and our records reverse. But we lost.
 
If “toosii” is getting any dollar from this school. Fran will need to go because why is a 25 year old multi platinum artist getting money from this school unless it’s 3rd party NIL deals. And he better not be on scholarship. I been on the Fran train the entire year. But if he is giving this kid a scholarship I had enough.
 
Ttk.gman2 said:
If “toosii” is getting any dollar from this school. Fran will need to go because why is a 25 year old multi platinum artist getting money from this school unless it’s 3rd party NIL deals. And he better not be on scholarship. I been on the Fran train the entire year. But if he is giving this kid a scholarship I had enough.
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Relax lol

All about publicity and recruiting selling points. Gotta do what you can to keep recruiting positive when you go 3-9 and fire half the staff.
 
bnoro said:
Doesn't matter if we went 3-9 or 4-8
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It does if you are responding to this post: "True, but at least we didn't go 4-8 with our first team QB healthy all year and the greatest NFL coach of all time on our sidelines."
 
Did anyone hear bill Simmons on his podcast w cousin sal bash wildhack out of nowhere? Mentioned how he botched the Chesney hire and then Todd mcshay said something along the lines of “more to that story”

Sounds like mcshay and Simmons not fans of wildhack from espn at all. Knew Simmons loathed him but assumed it was all ego
 
elimunelson said:
Did anyone hear bill Simmons on his podcast w cousin sal bash wildhack out of nowhere? Mentioned how he botched the Chesney hire and then Todd mcshay said something along the lines of “more to that story”

Sounds like mcshay and Simmons not fans of wildhack from espn at all. Knew Simmons loathed him but assumed it was all ego
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Bill Simmons is a tool, I’m impressed you can listen to him.
 

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