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Let's take the boards pulse after the Scott Frost news.

Which candidate do you want to be the next HC of Syracuse

  • Dino Babers

    Votes: 84 48.6%

  • Ed Orgeron

    Votes: 28 16.2%

  • Chris Ash

    Votes: 7 4.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 54 31.2%
  • Total voters
    173
  • Poll closed .
dasher said:
Rational? You have zero proof that Frost demanded a out after a year or two. Zero. And as I said, I don't care about Frost. I care about us not getting the guy we wanted. Again.
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And you have zero proof he didn't. Again, not being rational and flying off the handle without all the information. I get it, that's your thing. Roll with it.
 
"Frost has discussed his long-term coaching goals, Helfrich said, but called those conversations "very private and personal and if he wants to speak to them publicly I think that's for him to say." from: http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2015/11/ducks_coaches_begin_two_weeks.html

Tells me he wants to be the eventual coach at Nebraska. Coyle's contract probably would have made him leaving in 2-3 years very difficult. Coyle made the right decision.
 
CuseCrew08 said:
"Frost has discussed his long-term coaching goals, Helfrich said, but called those conversations "very private and personal and if he wants to speak to them publicly I think that's for him to say." from: http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2015/11/ducks_coaches_begin_two_weeks.html

Tells me he wants to be the eventual coach at Nebraska. Coyle's contract probably would have made him leaving in 2-3 years very difficult. Coyle made the right decision.
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Coyle should have known that before going after him.
 
tep624 said:
And you have zero proof he didn't. Again, not being rational and flying off the handle without all the information. I get it, that's your thing. Roll with it.
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Yeah, that's me. Everything is just fine. Nothing to see here. You have no proof of anything and came at me for not having proof. My only proof is that a guy just chose UCF. And it was a guy we were linked to and that our A.D. had a previous connection to. You go roll with it.
 
phil77 said:
Coyle should have known that before going after him.
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In many cases it isn't easy to know. The candidate will tell you what you want to hear, yet when contract negotiations start and they are more worried about their ease to get out of a contract than the contract itself that can be telling. People on this board seem to think Coyle fell on his face when in all likelihood he wanted to get a contract in line that would protect Cuse from this exact conversation in 2-3 years. This isn't a 50K a year position that is easily replaced.
 
Tobias Funke said:
In many cases it isn't easy to know. The candidate will tell you what you want to hear, yet when contract negotiations start and they are more worried about their ease to get out of a contract than the contract itself that can be telling. People on this board seem to think Coyle fell on his face when in all likelihood he wanted to get a contract in line that would protect Cuse from this exact conversation in 2-3 years. This isn't a 50K a year position that is easily replaced.
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Everyone on this board knew that he would jump at Nebraska first chance he got. If you wanted a long term coach to be at Syracuse then don't go after Frost in the first place because even the board knew he wasn't a long term solution and was using us as a stepping stone.
 
phil77 said:
Everyone on this board knew that he would jump at Nebraska first chance he got. If you wanted a long term coach to be at Syracuse then don't go after Frost in the first place because even the board knew he wasn't a long term solution and was using us as a stepping stone.
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i would've been fine with it if he jumped after 4 years. 2, no thanks
 
Millhouse said:
i would've been fine with it if he jumped after 4 years. 2, no thanks
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He could have jumped after 1 year. As soon as Nebraska opens up he is gone.
 
phil77 said:
Everyone on this board knew that he would jump at Nebraska first chance he got. If you wanted a long term coach to be at Syracuse then don't go after Frost in the first place because even the board knew he wasn't a long term solution and was using us as a stepping stone.
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nebraska...has $$$.

if frost came here...and had success, hopefully he wouldve been grooming someone to take over and keep the status quo when he leaves.

and nebraska sending us a check for 5mill wouldnt hurt either...
 
KaiserUEO said:
Tier 1

Montgomery
Babers
Holliday
Wilder

Tier 2

Baldwin
Golden

Tier 3

Ive got a gun and a shovel, coyle wont be missed.

and milly, i realize youve been watching the bills dig holes into the carpet and hide for the last 20 years, but the Giants offense has been explosive since game 7 of 1999, when Kerry Collins took over.

my Kingdom for the passing success that the Giants offense has had since then...

of course the 1 year when we had 2 guys run for 1000 yards and Eli with his usual 3k +, yeah that was cool too.
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now that's a list. Why isn't doc holiday getting more looks.
 
Alsacs said:
If we hire a career defensive assistant after what we have been through. I honestly believe the football board should be shutdown for 48 hours.
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As jek would say I already have my article written and I'm positive I would be banned.
 
phil77 said:
He could have jumped after 1 year. As soon as Nebraska opens up he is gone.
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and that's why SU wanted to get paid if that happened. take nebraska's money and throw it at the next guy.

i get why SU wanted that and I get why frost didn't. all these deal makers in these threads amuse me.
 
phil77 said:
Everyone on this board knew that he would jump at Nebraska first chance he got. If you wanted a long term coach to be at Syracuse then don't go after Frost in the first place because even the board knew he wasn't a long term solution and was using us as a stepping stone.
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You can know that going in, make an offer that's reasonable and in line with the norm, and then be surprised when the buyout figure is the sticking point.

What if Frost came back and said - "I want the buyout for year 3 to be structured different on a 5 year deal"?

That's much different than expecting him to look around after 4 years.
 
Millhouse said:
and that's why SU wanted to get paid if that happened. take nebraska's money and throw it at the next guy.

i get why SU wanted that and I get why frost didn't. all these deal makers in these threads amuse me.
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Should never of gotten involved with Frost if that was the case. I realize that Coyle is trying to protect the best interest of Syracuse but don't go down this road if you weren't willing to pay the price. There are plenty other offensive minds out there that could have been targeted first. Don't you think it is funny that we were the only P5 school targeting probably the hottest offensive coordinator in the country? Seems that should have been a red flag?
 
Interesting tidbits...just think if Nebraska went 10-2 this would have probably been a done deal if this info is true.
 
phil77 said:
Don't you think it is funny that we were the only P5 school targeting probably the hottest offensive coordinator in the country? Seems that should have been a red flag?
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a lot of the other p5 schools already have a good offense

different coaches fit at different places.
 
OrangePA said:
Oh my! You inside guys always ruin my days.
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Ha - don't worry too much. I'm not an inside guy. But going off of the posts here of inside guys, those names haven't come up much.
 
TheCusian said:
Ha - don't worry too much. I'm not an inside guy. But going off of the posts here of inside guys, those names haven't come up much.
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What names are we left with at this point?

Ash
Babers - are we sure he was interviewed? Thought Bees hinted that he didn't make it here last Sunday?
Montgomery - Tulsa pay board has a thread about him interviewing here?

Who else have we been linked to for sure?
 
phil77 said:
What names are we left with at this point? Ash Babers - are we sure he was interviewed? Thought Bees hinted that he didn't make it here last Sunday? Montgomery - Tulsa pay board has a thread about him interviewing here? Who else have we been linked to for sure?
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No idea. Insiders being coy.
 
phil77 said:
What names are we left with at this point?

Ash
Babers - are we sure he was interviewed? Thought Bees hinted that he didn't make it here last Sunday?
Montgomery - Tulsa pay board has a thread about him interviewing here?
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+ the guy they will hire.
 
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