Looks like we could Doug Marrone as the next Tennessee Titans HC

[Alsacs]

Here's the thing that's crazy to me about Marrone - it sounds like he more or less tried to pull a power play with new ownership. Hoes does that even work?

"Hi guys, I know you just spent an insane amount of money to own and run a team, but, look... I've got this covered so just stay out of my way."

I'm sure the new owners were pretty eager to hand over the keys to someone else.

Marrone wanted an extension. He had a new owner who didn't hire him. He saw the QB situation of Buffalo and knew he needed security. I guess Pegula said no so he used a clause Se xton put in his contract and got paid to not be the HC.

I don't think it is stupid because the ESPN article came out to rehab his image and now he will get his shot this offseason.

 

[GoSU96]

heavens to betsy, not that!

Getting that kind of crap from people who have some control over your future after going 17-20 when you inherit a 10-37 program is completely unreasonable. Then ladle on adding a late season road game against an SEC team and not being provided resources and support that was within the capability of the school to give.

Most people would say " this, I'm out of here" if they had an opportunity.

 

[TheCusian]

id be surprised. the guy is a Fn QUITTER. the NFL 'owns a day of the week'...and that piece of garbage just QUIT being the CEO of 1 of its 32 Sentry's. hes done. why wont he try to get out of Dodge any time soon??...because he screwed up!!! and he knows it!! thats why. hes a QUITTER. the NFL doesnt like QUITTERS. the titans will be the laughing stock of the NFL if they hire him.

You still shovelin? He did quit. And he'll get another shot.

 

[Alsacs]

both instances the coach in question had a GUARANTEED job.

they didnt quit, they traded up.

that is fine.

dont quit until the ink is dry on the new job.

that would also make rocco happy.

Marrone is going to get an NFL HC job again. His super agent and endorsements will get it done. The NFL hires a lot of retreads. After Buffalo going 8-7 last year and going backwards this year he will get a shot.

The Jets NYDN beat reporter destroyed him last year when he was the frontrunner for the Jets job. That piece costed him a good shot at thee Jets job. Marrone got his HC money this year and I think he will get it again next year.

My bet it will be in Cleveland or Tennessee wherever Peyton Manning/Bill Polian go to run that franchise.

 

[orangenirvana]

Pretty funny that the Bills are going to "shake things up" in the front office now after another wasted season. Probably make many of the changes Marrone was requesting.

Would have been a hell of a lot cheaper and Pegula would more flexibility if they he had acted a year ago.

Why would the Pegulas relent to the demands of a depressing dime-a-dozen coach?

 

[Chip]

Why would the Pegulas relent to the demands of a depressing dime-a-dozen coach?

Who would have used his out clause anyway.

It's cute that Go still hangs on to the theory that if SU or the Bills had just done things differently, as Saint Doug wished, then he would have just stayed and been happy.

Ironically, Marrone is the anti-Pasqualoni.

 

[rrlbees]

Agree to disagree. Hell, his name was already being tossed around in NFL circles when he was Co-OC in New Orleans. Peter King had him on his "names to watch" for NFL openings way back. Doug knew what his plans were.

Yea we can agree to disagree. You cut off my reasoning but that 3rd one was the clincher for me. And if he was such a hot NFL HC commodity then why did he leave at all and why did he even stay 4 years. No, he had no plans to leave.

 

[GoSU96]

Why would the Pegulas relent to the demands of a depressing dime-a-dozen coach?

Maybe because it would have been the smart thing to do.

Now they are stuck with a $20m HC liability, have to attack the problems with the old guard in the front office and the reporting structure in the organization anyways, and have another losing season on top of it.

How many dime a dozen coaches produce winning seasons at both the FBS and NFL levels in their second year at given the state of each program?

Only Harbaugh, who came in with prior HC experience, has done a better job in the same time period, and it took him three years to have a winning season at Stanford. And he had better QB's in Luck and Smith/Kaepernick to work with.

 

[Rocco]

why is he even reading #billsmafia posts? most of it is just people having fun. "bills are going to win the superbowl! check out this powerbomb on a beat up pinto"

You can address me if you'd like, that would be nice.

And LOL, I am not reading #billsmafia posts, I'm referencing the Bills Mafia movement. The hashtag was for exaggeration. For fock's sake, everyone was trying to hop on the bills bandwagon after they beat the awful colts week 1. Now people are back off the bandwagon.

Why does that bother you?

So, all of a sudden, because of Rex, there should be reason for optimism? He just got fired from the jets, who the bills beat with marrone. Never understood it.

People think that Rex is such an upgrade over Marrone. He's not.

I mean, Terry Pegula, could've hired Dino Babers if he wanted to.

 

[Alsacs]

As long as Brady is healthy and Belichick is the HC the Patriots are going to win 11-13 games a year. I don't blame Marrone for wanting security from Pegula to stay. I think he would have gotten the Jets job if he wasn't destroyed in the NYDN.
Again Jets fans were like Syracuse fans with the prospect of hiring Chris Ash. Rex Ryan was popular even when he was fired and Jets fans didn't like the idea of hiring the Bills HC when they just fired Rex.

Marrone was a finalist for the Bears job as well but John Fox got fired from Denver and got that job.

Marrone went 9-7 last year but the Patriots gave him that 9th win. He was solid in the NFL 15-17 he was going to get atleast 1 more year. If the Bills didn't get an ownership change he would likely have 2 years barring a disaster but since he knew with the change he was only getting 1 more year and with the Pats SB champs in his division he wanted security. Pegula probably said no he took his money and now will get his chance this offseason.

 

[Chip]

So, all of a sudden, because of Rex, there should be reason for optimism? He just got fired from the jets, who the bills beat with marrone. Never understood it.

People think that Rex is such an upgrade over Marrone. He's not.

Agree. When Marrone quit on the team, and Rex was brought in, all the fans should have said this is the worst thing ever, and turned in their zubaz.

Makes me think back to when Marrone quit on us, and we all tried to rally around why Shafer was a good choice.

I guess we're all just dumb fans.

 

[Mr Peabody]

Are we all sure Marrone left Buffalo because he couldn't get an extension? My feeling is he was upset with the treatment by media and fans after what he perceived to be quite a turnaround with the team. Fans and media were pretty hard on him and Hackett. Additionally he likely wasn't comfortable with what he had at QB and OL going into 2015 - hard to improve on the 9-7 so timing was ripe to leave on a high note.

 

[Rocco]

Agree. When Marrone quit on the team, and Rex was brought in, all the fans should have said this is the worst thing ever, and turned in their zubaz.

Makes me think back to when Marrone quit on us, and we all tried to rally around why Shafer was a good choice.

I guess we're all just dumb fans.

So now Shafer being promoted internally to HC due to many factors (mainly DM's later departure) and Rex getting hired after he was just fired by the Jets for losing, are similar situations? Interesting.

 

[Chip]

So now Shafer being promoted internally to HC due to many factors (mainly DM's later departure) and Rex getting hired after he was just fired by the Jets for losing, are similar situations? Interesting.

In terms of fans trying to get on board with the replacement? Yes.

In terms of guys following up Marrone after he quits? Yes.

Don't make it too complicated.

 

[Rocco]

In terms of fans trying to get on board with the replacement? Yes.

In terms of guys following up Marrone after he quits? Yes.

Don't make it too complicated.

I'm not, you're oversimplifying it. The Bills could've hired whoever they wanted. Syracuse was already dealing with a picked over pool. Retaining Shafer at the time made sense for many reasons. Hiring Rex after he was just fired by the divisional foe Jets, doesn't make sense IMO.

Of course, as a fan, you're going to support your team.

 

[Millhouse]

Agree. When Marrone quit on the team, and Rex was brought in, all the fans should have said this is the worst thing ever, and turned in their zubaz.

Makes me think back to when Marrone quit on us, and we all tried to rally around why Shafer was a good choice.

I guess we're all just dumb fans.

it really burns these guys up that bills fans aren't pining for the marrone era where they were eliminated from the post season a whole week later than the ryan era

don't you know what you once had?!?

 

[Cheriehoop]

As you said I bet in the future the covenants of his contract will better control any sudden wanderlust or .

I am a Giants fan, and while this year was a disaster, we've won 2 Super Bowls in the last 8 years. If I were a Bills fan, well, I'd probably just hate myself. At least Marrone was over .500 last year with that calamity up there. Rex had Tyrod Taylor, Charles Clay and Shady McCoy added into what Marrone was working with (Manuel and Kyle Orton). EJ Manuel was NOT Marrone's pick, contrary to popular belief. He took a put option and bounced not knowing what the new ownership was going to do. His agent, the great Jimmy s e xton, advised him to do so. It wasn't a temper-tantrum type of exit like many try to fabricate it was.

As an SU fan, we need to accept that we are a stepping stone school. Marrone walked into a legit shitt-bomb here, was able to stop the football defecating and have some mild success, then left when the top dogs came calling. "Dream job" is purely a presser sales pitch to get people jacked up. I love how many of you still hang on to that. I fully expect all of you to loyally remain in your current job forever, and you'd better not take any sort of promotion. If you do, you are an asshat clown who cannot be trusted.

Personally, I don't blame anyone for going for a better job. You have a very simplistic take on the subject. I don't think of myself as an "asshat" but of course that is debatable. Funny how when Coach Mac left for New England, fans didn't have the same reaction. Could there be valid reasons that the reactions of much the same fanbase differed from Coach Mac to Coach Marrone?

I truly think people were understanding why DM would leave for a chance at an NFL coaching job - I don't think fans are idiots- well not all of them . It was more what he said when he came here, how he left and how he treated people and fans while here and after he left. Doug Marrone didn't care what either the SU fans nor Bill's fans thought when he left - fair enough - but why should I feel like an asshat for not feeling warm about him either?

If I lobbied hard for a job despite tough competition, publicly calling it my dream job and the goal I had worked my entire career towards while playing the loyalty card to obtain the job, I'd expect some flack for looking and leaving after the first tangible sign of success. Good for him but bad timing for us looking for a coach after the Pinstripe Bowl win. Ironically, Coach Babers found a different way to time it to help BG's search. I also would never disrespect those same employers who took that leap of faith in me providing the opportunity to leave for that better job either. Scorched earth policy usually does cause some irreparable damage. If people disagree with how he handled himself in leaving - is that really being an "asshat"? Fine, he gets a total pass from some people who excuse "the how for the why" - no need to demonize either view. Overall as an SU fan, I might have thought it was more personal if he hadn't done the same thing to the Bills'. Overall who cares anyways- he's old news. Sorry for the blah blah length of this.

 

[KaiserUEO]

Marrone is going to get an NFL HC job again. His super agent and endorsements will get it done. The NFL hires a lot of retreads. After Buffalo going 8-7 last year and going backwards this year he will get a shot.

The Jets NYDN beat reporter destroyed him last year when he was the frontrunner for the Jets job. That piece costed him a good shot at thee Jets job. Marrone got his HC money this year and I think he will get it again next year.

My bet it will be in Cleveland or Tennessee wherever Peyton Manning/Bill Polian go to run that franchise.

jeesh, Lunatic Fringe isnt just a great song...its where all the marrone lovers reside.

he QUIT without an ironclad agreement to become a HC.

what did he have??

a wink and a smile??
that superagent of his telling him it was a done deal?? (nice job there, jerry maguire)
a magic 8 ball telling him to QUIT??

bottom line...he QUIT.

please dont gloss that over.

this is the NFL.

yesterdays 'hot' candidates are todays fire-ees.

and then theres doogie...the QUITTER.

 

[chakka3421]

jeesh, Lunatic Fringe isnt just a great song...its where all the marrone lovers reside.

he QUIT without an ironclad agreement to become a HC.

what did he have??

a wink and a smile??
that superagent of his telling him it was a done deal?? (nice job there, jerry maguire)
a magic 8 ball telling him to QUIT??

bottom line...he QUIT.

please dont gloss that over.

this is the NFL.

yesterdays 'hot' candidates are todays fire-ees.

and then theres doogie...the QUITTER.

You my friend will be eating your own words Kaiserizing yourself on this one... And you have no idea what your taking about either...I find your posts quite humorous really...
Waiting to see what other stuff you come up with :eat popcorn:

And I find it humorous that a thread about Marrone goes almost viral as a thread about Rutgirls...I do hope we can move on from both once Babers starts winning and winning big! Next fall can't come soon enough!

 

[GoSU96]

jeesh, Lunatic Fringe isnt just a great song...its where all the marrone lovers reside.

he QUIT without an ironclad agreement to become a HC.

what did he have??

a wink and a smile??
that superagent of his telling him it was a done deal?? (nice job there, jerry maguire)
a magic 8 ball telling him to QUIT??

bottom line...he QUIT.

please dont gloss that over.

this is the NFL.

yesterdays 'hot' candidates are todays fire-ees.

and then theres doogie...the QUITTER.

It would be too damn funny if he ended up with the Giants.

 

[rrlbees]

It would be too damn funny if he ended up with the Giants.

That could be a possibility.

 

[kcsu]

I thought that Doug did a good job at Syracuse but i didnt care for him as he didnt show any respect for my Dad who is salt of the earth and was a big Doug supporter. I find him to be thin skinned but he is a very good coach and made for the NFL. We all live in glass homes and God knows i have more faults than Carter has pills. I hope that the big Balogne gets another shot and my sense is if he does he has matured to the point that he will end up being a really good leader. At the end of the day he is one of us and i wish him nothing but the best.

 

[TheCusian]

Are we all sure Marrone left Buffalo because he couldn't get an extension? My feeling is he was upset with the treatment by media and fans after what he perceived to be quite a turnaround with the team. Fans and media were pretty hard on him and Hackett. Additionally he likely wasn't comfortable with what he had at QB and OL going into 2015 - hard to improve on the 9-7 so timing was ripe to leave on a high note.

It's the management. And the fans. And the media. But not Doug.

 

[Rocco]

As you said I bet in the future the covenants of his contract will better control any sudden wanderlust or .


Personally, I don't blame anyone for going for a better job. You have a very simplistic take on the subject. I don't think of myself as an "asshat" but of course that is debatable. Funny how when Coach Mac left for New England, fans didn't have the same reaction. Could there be valid reasons that the reactions of much the same fanbase differed from Coach Mac to Coach Marrone?

I truly think people were understanding why DM would leave for a chance at an NFL coaching job - I don't think fans are idiots- well not all of them . It was more what he said when he came here, how he left and how he treated people and fans while here and after he left. Doug Marrone didn't care what either the SU fans nor Bill's fans thought when he left - fair enough - but why should I feel like an asshat for not feeling warm about him either?

If I lobbied hard for a job despite tough competition, publicly calling it my dream job and the goal I had worked my entire career towards while playing the loyalty card to obtain the job, I'd expect some flack for looking and leaving after the first tangible sign of success. Good for him but bad timing for us looking for a coach after the Pinstripe Bowl win. Ironically, Coach Babers found a different way to time it to help BG's search. I also would never disrespect those same employers who took that leap of faith in me providing the opportunity to leave for that better job either. Scorched earth policy usually does cause some irreparable damage. If people disagree with how he handled himself in leaving - is that really being an "asshat"? Fine, he gets a total pass from some people who excuse "the how for the why" - no need to demonize either view. Overall as an SU fan, I might have thought it was more personal if he hadn't done the same thing to the Bills'. Overall who cares anyways- he's old news. Sorry for the blah blah length of this.

Maybe you missed the context of my post. Other people have called him worse than an "asshat" for leaving for Buffalo. I said, you'd better not take another job, or you will be an "asshat", too.

Simplistic or not, no need to hate on a man for taking a job promotion, regardless of what he publically said to help win the fanbase. I'd consider that sales.

 

[orangenirvana]

Maybe because it would have been the smart thing to do.

Now they are stuck with a $20m HC liability, have to attack the problems with the old guard in the front office and the reporting structure in the organization anyways, and have another losing season on top of it.

How many dime a dozen coaches produce winning seasons at both the FBS and NFL levels in their second year at given the state of each program?

Only Harbaugh, who came in with prior HC experience, has done a better job in the same time period, and it took him three years to have a winning season at Stanford. And he had better QB's in Luck and Smith/Kaepernick to work with.

I'm guessing you glossed over all of my posts in this thread on this subject. That doesn't surprise me.