Lydon to hire agent and enter NBA draft

[Macky44]

I think he's making the right move, but I doubt he'll be much of a shot blocker in the NBA

People said Jerami Grant couldn't be an NBA shot blocker as well. They were wrong.

 

[br801]

I didnt want to read 14 pages. Can someone confirm whom between Rothstein and Boeheim was right about the agent? Has Lydon issued a statement, and/or a tweet?

In a stunning development, Lydon just announced he is retaining Briancuse as his agent.

 

[Briancuse]

In a stunning development, Lydon just announced he is retaining Briancuse as his agent.

I could use the money.

 

[CaptainJ]

In a stunning development, Lydon just announced he is retaining Briancuse as his agent.

Your answer makes me realize I just saved myself from reading 14 pages of nonsense, thank you. Some people deserve a a good kick for jumping on a Mike Waters article of a Rothstein tweet, and hours later having not yet a single detail. Ugh!!!

Br801 , you are likely onto soemthing. Lydon would likely keep a lot more of his money, as Briancuse would likely work for much less. I have faith that he could be demanding and play hard ball with the NBA if he was dying of lung cancer like Walter White was on Breaking Bad. Man, I miss my avatar sometines.

 

[Brooky03]

Rebounding correlates from college to the NBA more than any stat so that probably only helps him.

8.5 rebounds per game when he never leaves the court is not exactly noteworthy production. Any height or athleticism advantage he has now is negated in the NBA, and we know he's at least a couple years away from having the requisite strength.

 

[Brooky03]

People said Jerami Grant couldn't be an NBA shot blocker as well. They were wrong.

Who said that? The dude had like a 70 inch vertical probably when he was 12.

 

[tipphill]

Missed uses how exactly? Every time he touches the ball, he passes up an open shot.

i wonder why??? what do you think changed?legit question not sarcastic or confrontational

 

[knicks07]

Malachi's NBA teams transactions has nothing to do with if he left early or not.

Every NBA team makes moves around 1-2 players. Unless he's one of those 1-2 players, it's going to happen. It's happened to every one of our players not named Melo.

Agree with this. Transactions had nothing to do with if he left early. We are talking the Kings and in order to rid themselves of Cousins they had to take what was best offered and what fit the trade salary wise. Unfortunately for Malachi, and because they are the Kings, they ended up with 7 SG's on their current roster, 3 which came in that trade.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

MCW was lottery after a final four and we had multiple people on here saying he wasn't ready

They said same about Waiters as well regardless of what will be said about it now, he was 6th man etc etc.

I cant sit here and say Grant made the wrong choice he may or may not have been better off, most likely he would be in same exact spot and that is what gets lost in these conversations, IMO the player would be pretty much in the same spot, the NBA will be patient for many and let you develop, D league whatever, why not get paid for it, if you improve from 23rd to 18th on one year? Does it really matter that much.

In Tyler's case next years draft probably is much softer and he could move up by default and people are right he probably will spend some time in the D league, etc but let's see where he is at 2-3 years from now, the fact is it's probably very similar where he would be if he played one more year here or not.

 

[dan7800]

I just hope TL doesn't sign with an agent and then find out he might only go in the 2nd round after workouts.

 

[br801]

They said same about Waiters as well regardless of what will be said about it now, he was 6th man etc etc.

I cant sit here and say Grant made the wrong choice he may or may not have been better off, most likely he would be in same exact spot and that is what gets lost in these conversations, IMO the player would be pretty much in the same spot, the NBA will be patient for many and let you develop, D league whatever, why not get paid for it, if you improve from 23rd to 18th on one year? Does it really matter that much.

In Tyler's case next years draft probably is much softer and he could move up by default and people are right he probably will spend some time in the D league, etc but let's see where he is at 2-3 years from now, the fact is it's probably very similar where he would be if he played one more year here or not.

In Grant's case, it probably couldn't have worked out better. He wound up with a bad team where he could play his way on to the floor, parlay his way into some guaranteed money as a second round pick, and then play impressively enough to end up traded to a much better situation.

 

[Cusefan0307]

8.5 rebounds per game when he never leaves the court is not exactly noteworthy production. Any height or athleticism advantage he has now is negated in the NBA, and we know he's at least a couple years away from having the requisite strength.

I think your argument is poor. You just brought up the fact it was a shoe in Jerami Grant could block shots because he had good vertical. Lydon's block percentage is higher than Grants was in college.

You also bring the fact that his minutes inflate his rebounding stats. Hes still 8th in the conference in defensive rebounding percentage. Grant couldn't shoot. Lydon can.

 

[Melancer46]

I think your argument is poor. You just brought up the fact it was a shoe in Jerami Grant could block shots because he had good vertical. Lydon's block percentage is higher than Grants was in college.

You also bring the fact that his minutes inflate his rebounding stats. Hes still 8th in the conference in defensive rebounding percentage. Grant couldn't shoot. Lydon can.

To be fair re: rebounding, Lydon will probably have the lowest pace-adjusted rebounds/40 minutes among the PF prospects in the draft. Well, probably 2nd lowest, ahead of Lauri Markannen.

If Lydon is to succeed in the NBA, it will be because he's able to get a bit stronger, and he can defend and rebound just well enough to survive while being a good shooter that knows how to use his pump fake. Nobody is drafting Lydon expecting a good rebounder.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

So, did he hire an agent or didn't he?

 

[Cusefan0307]

To be fair re: rebounding, Lydon will probably have the lowest pace-adjusted rebounds/40 minutes among the PF prospects in the draft. Well, probably 2nd lowest, ahead of Lauri Markannen.

If Lydon is to succeed in the NBA, it will be because he's able to get a bit stronger, and he can defend and rebound just well enough to survive while being a good shooter that knows how to use his pump fake. Nobody is drafting Lydon expecting a good rebounder.

That's fair. The poster I was responding to was comparing him directly to Jerami Grant which is a weird comparison.

 

[Melancer46]

So, did he hire an agent or didn't he?

No agent yet. Based on the reports, it sounds like it's basically a foregone conclusion though.

 

[RandygoCuse]

Assuming he goes in the first round, this will Give Syracuse a streak of five or six years of having a first round pick. Might this be a recruiting tool?

 

[jordoo]

No agent yet. Based on the reports, it sounds like it's basically a foregone conclusion though.

With all the mock drafts showing him in the 1st round I'm sure he is expecting to be signing with an agent. Unless you are a sure fire lottery pick I think the smart move is to go to Chicago and get evaluated before signing with an agent. I agree though even if he waits to be evaluated I think he hears enough to sign and move forward.

 

[sugrad68]

If Lydon is to succeed in the NBA, it will be because he's able to get a bit stronger, and he can defend and rebound just well enough to survive while being a good shooter that knows how to use his pump fake. Nobody is drafting Lydon expecting a good rebounder.

This is what I don't get. Lydon had a great deal of difficulty at the college level getting off a shot. He needs 5-10 feet of open space when shooting the 3 due to his release point. He doesn't have an effective inside game even at the college level. He will be playing against much better players every night at the pro level than he did at the college level. Can he be an effective defender at the pro level? Hard to answer. I certainly would like to see Lydon return for one more year but if he is a guaranteed 1st rounder I think he is certainly gone.

 

[RMH44]

That's fair. The poster I was responding to was comparing him directly to Jerami Grant which is a weird comparison.

If I remember correctly, Grant's father advocated for Jerami to leave because he wasn't happy with the medical staff. Do I have that right?

 

[cuse10]

They said same about Waiters as well regardless of what will be said about it now, he was 6th man etc etc.

I cant sit here and say Grant made the wrong choice he may or may not have been better off, most likely he would be in same exact spot and that is what gets lost in these conversations, IMO the player would be pretty much in the same spot, the NBA will be patient for many and let you develop, D league whatever, why not get paid for it, if you improve from 23rd to 18th on one year? Does it really matter that much.

In Tyler's case next years draft probably is much softer and he could move up by default and people are right he probably will spend some time in the D league, etc but let's see where he is at 2-3 years from now, the fact is it's probably very similar where he would be if he played one more year here or not.

Who said the same about Waiters? Anyone who watches and knows basketball could see he was a pro.

Tyus Battle is a pro. He just needs that sophomore year to showcase what he can do as a lead guy.

 

[cuse10]

With all the mock drafts showing him in the 1st round I'm sure he is expecting to be signing with an agent. Unless you are a sure fire lottery pick I think the smart move is to go to Chicago and get evaluated before signing with an agent. I agree though even if he waits to be evaluated I think he hears enough to sign and move forward.

You should never go by a mock draft to make your decision. Get NBA feedback from scouts and those who are actually tied to front offices.

 

[jordoo]

You should never go by a mock draft to make your decision. Get NBA feedback from scouts and those who are actually tied to front offices.

I thought thats what I was implying.

 

[PauliePeppas]

Sources: Texas A&M foward Robert Williams - considered Top 10 pick in 2017 Draft - leaning strongly toward returning for his sophomore year.

Lollll

 

[Melancer46]

This is what I don't get. Lydon had a great deal of difficulty at the college level getting off a shot. He needs 5-10 feet of open space when shooting the 3 due to his release point. He doesn't have an effective inside game even at the college level. He will be playing against much better players every night at the pro level than he did at the college level. Can he be an effective defender at the pro level? Hard to answer. I certainly would like to see Lydon return for one more year but if he is a guaranteed 1st rounder I think he is certainly gone.

I don't think he has a hard time physically getting his shot off. I think he just didn't want to force things. Lydon's a tall dude with a quick release and good footwork on his jumpshot. Also, he shot just under four 3's per game these past two years; he pulled the trigger an awful lot for a big man.

Regarding his inside game, he won't play inside too much on the offensive end in the NBA if I had to guess, and I don't think 65-67% around the rim is that bad (haven't really looked into this too much yet though).