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Not a leader. If you can’t help build it, take the easy way and money.
You must feel the same way about our incoming transfers? As much as it sucks it’s a new world.
Not a leader. If you can’t help build it, take the easy way and money.
I havent seen quotes like that from our incoming transfers. Its very easy to just say you’re attracted to the tradition and opportunity at Duke. If what he says betrays his mentality and self, then that is his own fault.You must feel the same way about our incoming transfers? As much as it sucks it’s a new world.
He said he was coming back and then didn't. Wants winning culture but doesn't have winning mentality.
And rather than being part of the solution and helping to transform the culture as a leader, he headed out the door.
Just wondering if you guys think that Lampkin, Davis, Carlos, and Taylor (and JJ, Chance ) are not "leaders" and don't have winning mentalities. Because, you know, they also "headed out the door," bailed on their programs, and took "the easy way and money."Not a leader. If you can’t help build it, take the easy way and money.
Though I hate the fact that Maliq left us and chose Duke of all programs, I empathize with him as the team we had last year was not a well put together team and players were not all in. He might not get starter minutes but he will not be playing out of position and will be able to display his strengths.ouch..says something about the make-up of last year's team. Solidifies the notion we had some malcontents.
I responded to a similar comment above. Its one thing to leave, its another to talk down about the program you left whether directly or indirectly. These “kids” are paid well and can be held accountable for what they say.Just wondering if you guys think that Lampkin, Davis, Carlos, and Taylor (and JJ, Chance ) are not "leaders" and don't have winning mentalities. Because, you know, they also "headed out the door," bailed on their programs, and took "the easy way and money."
These guys (and coaches) all took advantage of the system that is the new reality. Good, bad, or indifferent.
Regardless of anything else it isn't a good look to bad mouth someone on your way out the door. But you never know in the context of the question that was asked, that might have caused the reply that he made.Davis may well be a better “all around” players. He’s a lot better offensively. We’ll see if he can defend in the ACC. He certainly has the body to bang with guys.
My guess is 15 mpg and 6/4/1 is his stat line. He probably plays more early on and then once all the youth starts to get comfortable that dips. I also think he transfers again. Could see Taylor boosting his stock some and he and Maliq reunite at UVA
Davis may well be a better “all around” players. He’s a lot better offensively.
You must feel the same way about our incoming transfers? As much as it sucks it’s a new world.
These players have a brief window as college athletes in a rapidly changing environment. Their decisions can't be easy right now, and there probably is no 'right answer' for most of them, but only several viable choices, all of which come with some level of risk. To wish failure for any of these people because they didn't make the decision you wanted seems monumentally stupid.
Did any of those guys take shots on the way out? Did any of those guys say they were coming back and then flip a week later? Because if they did id question their character. There's one guy you named that's coming here that I have serious concerns in that regard. More will be revealed, but these GUYS, no longer kids, are making 6 figures to play basketball. So they get to get critiqued in a different way now.Just wondering if you guys think that Lampkin, Davis, Carlos, and Taylor (and JJ, Chance ) are not "leaders" and don't have winning mentalities. Because, you know, they also "headed out the door," bailed on their programs, and took "the easy way and money."
These guys (and coaches) all took advantage of the system that is the new reality. Good, bad, or indifferent.
CBB is in a terrible spot right now. Most teams are being torn apart and need to rebuild from almost ground zero every year. And it's going to be worse when CBB expands to 15 schollies a year.Yeah everyone needs to get out of their feelings about this stuff. You think Delaware fans are thrilled we took their best player?
This isn't a player going from Delaware, using a bonus year, to play P5 or a player from Notre Dame going going to play for his hometown team. This is a player from a 20 win team in a P5 conference, that was a starter who was going to start again on what many to believe will be a much improved team, AND he was going to play a more natural position. On top of that, he said he was coming back, and then went back on that word. You might not care, but not everything is black and white, nor should every transfer be viewed the same. That's my opinion, obviously you have yours. But I'm not mad at Justin Taylor, he went to a level where he's going to thrive. Maliq was in a position to be a real leader on a decent to good team.You must feel the same way about our incoming transfers? As much as it sucks it’s a new world.
Davis is a better offensive player than Brown. Brown was great at running the court and playing D, brown was. Ot good at putting the ball on the floor, driving to basket or passing. Comparing apples to oranges. Wish Brown stayed would have given us more optionsBrown - 2.3 offensive rebounds a game. Got 6 shots a game and still averaged nearly 10 pts a game. At Syracuse. In the ACC
Davis - 1.6 offensive rebounds. Shot 25 percent from 3 and shot 13.4 shots a game at Delaware. Delaware.
To say he’s a lot better offensively because he showed some post moves at Delaware and shot a couple more 3s at an inefficient clip is so silly it blows my mind.
Davis’ skills will help the team this year, but there’s no need to make stuff up
We were, for a very small window, but JB couldn’t keep guys like Mike Brown, Rodney Walker, Keith Hughes, Earl Duncan, Richard Manning, etc. JB could never really bring himself to spreading the minutes around.Elite programs can pile up good players without making promises because guys just want to be there (for example, Quade to Kentucky with Shai already in the fold, Tucker going to Duke when there was no place for him in a strong set rotation and Barrett, Cam, Zion, I believe already committed for the next year). We aren't that kind of program yet so we have to placate and make promises even to 3 star or lesser guys.
He wasn’t going to start. Period. All you have to do is look at who Red brought in. Also, just look at the talent. Brown is not better than Freeman, as an overall player. He can’t shoot like Chris Bell. He isn’t big like Lampkin.This isn't a player going from Delaware, using a bonus year, to play P5 or a player from Notre Dame going going to play for his hometown team. This is a player from a 20 win team in a P5 conference, that was a starter who was going to start again on what many to believe will be a much improved team, AND he was going to play a more natural position. On top of that, he said he was coming back, and then went back on that word. You might not care, but not everything is black and white, nor should every transfer be viewed the same. That's my opinion, obviously you have yours. But I'm not mad at Justin Taylor, he went to a level where he's going to thrive. Maliq was in a position to be a real leader on a decent to good team.
Show me the next time Brown backs someone down and makes a fall away jumper over a 6’10 guy? He can’t. He has no jumper and Davis does. There’s no comparison who has better offensive skills. Put Davis with better players and he will provide valuable production.Brown - 2.3 offensive rebounds a game. Got 6 shots a game and still averaged nearly 10 pts a game. At Syracuse. In the ACC
Davis - 1.6 offensive rebounds. Shot 25 percent from 3 and shot 13.4 shots a game at Delaware. Delaware.
To say he’s a lot better offensively because he showed some post moves at Delaware and shot a couple more 3s at an inefficient clip is so silly it blows my mind.
Davis’ skills will help the team this year, but there’s no need to make stuff up
we arent privvy to what coaches think prvatelyElite programs can pile up good players without making promises because guys just want to be there (for example, Quade to Kentucky with Shai already in the fold, Tucker going to Duke when there was no place for him in a strong set rotation and Barrett, Cam, Zion, I believe already committed for the next year). We aren't that kind of program yet so we have to placate and make promises even to 3 star or lesser guys.
Because this board equates shooting with offensive skills. I wonder whyShow me the next time Brown backs someone down and makes a fall away jumper over a 6’10 guy? He can’t. He has no jumper and Davis does. There’s no comparison who has better offensive skills. Put Davis with better players and he will provide valuable production.
Davis is a better offensive player than Brown. Brown was great at running the court and playing D, brown was. Ot good at putting the ball on the floor, driving to basket or passing. Comparing apples to oranges. Wish Brown stayed would have given us more options
How can you make a definitive statement like that when Maliq was an All ACC defender and we havent seen donnie play a game. Straughn has been quoted saying Maliq is the most important player for what were trying to do. Even Griff said they were ready for him to be the face of the programHe wasn’t going to start. Period. All you have to do is look at who Red brought in. Also, just look at the talent. Brown is not better than Freeman, as an overall player. He can’t shoot like Chris Bell. He isn’t big like Lampkin.
He would have backed up at the 4/5 and probably gotten 20-25 minutes a night.
I wasn’t there, but I am sure that was the conversation