MARRONE...He is what he is...

[realcusefan888]

the positives:

1. REPRESENTS THE PROGRAM WELL
2. A GREAT GUY
3. HAS RETURNED US TO RESPECTABILITY (SIMPLY D/T POINT #4,5)
4. HAS ELEVATED THE CONDITIONING OF THIS TEAM
5. IS ORGANIZED
6. HAS NFL EXPERIENCE HELPING WITH RECRUITING (MAYBE?)

the negatives:

1. APPARENTLY ZERO ABILITY TO MOTIVATE 18-22 YO BEFORE TAKING THE FIELD
2. IS STUBBORN IN TERMS OF PLAY CALLING STICKING WITH GAMEPLAN WHEN IT WAS A POOR PLAN IN THE FIRST PLACE AND HAS ALREADY FAILED FOR AN ENTIRE QUARTER.
3. IS HE NORV TURNER? (AND AT WORSE, AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL); A COORDINATOR/PLAY CALLER UNABLE TO MOTIVATE AND RELATE PERSONALLY.
4. WHILE HE PREACHES DISCIPLINE THIS AREA IS LACKING ON AND OFF THE FIELD WE HAVE OFF FIELD ISSUES AS COMMON AS THE BIG BOYS AND MUST LEAD THE CONFERENCE IN PERSONAL FOULS
5. LACKS THE FIRE, THE FIRE I SAW IN YEAR ONE WHEN HE DIRECTLY ADDRESSED A PERSONAL FOUL ON THE SIDELINE IN A KIDS FACE. SORRY GUYS, NOT LOOKING FOR BRIAN KELLY, BUT I WATCH ALOT OF COLLEGE FB AND SOME JUICE ON THE SIDELINES FILTERS THROUGH THE KIDS.

* WE HAVE PLAYED ONE SOLID 4 QUARTER GAME THIS YEAR OUT OF 5 WINS AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE WVU WIN CAN BE EXPLAINED SIMPLY BY THEM BEING LESS PREPARED THAN WE WERE COMING OUT OF THE TUNNEL AND SOME TEAMS JUST GET JUMPED IN THE DOME ATMOSPHERE AS RUTGERS DID 2 YEARS AGO.

*"HACKONE" CONTINUES TO PLAY OFFENSE STUBBORNLY! THE USF GAME AS WELL AS THE RUTGERS GAME WAS PURE COACHES EGO...TRYING TO POUND THE BALL WHEN IT ISNT THERE. OFFENSE IS ABOUT DECEPTION AND SPEED AND WE DO HAVE THE TALENT, OUR APPROACH IS POOR. WE DONT PLAY TO BE THE AGGRESSOR AND JUMP OUT AHEAD BY 2 SCORES AND THINK ABOUT IT...WHEN WE PLAY AN OFFENSE THATS BEEN STRUGGLING COMING IN (RUTGERS, USF, RHODDY, UCONN) WE PLAY OFFENSE LIKE WE ONLY NEED TO SCORE 17 POINTS. ITS SO APPARENT, AND WE WILL SEE THE SAME THING AGAINST CINNCY SINCE COLLAROS IS OUT AND THE BACKUP IS INEPT.

 

[wfschrec]

Why the use of all caps? Are you afraid no one will notice?

 

[GoSU96]

the positives:

1. REPRESENTS THE PROGRAM WELL
2. A GREAT GUY
3. HAS RETURNED US TO RESPECTABILITY (SIMPLY D/T POINT #4,5)
4. HAS ELEVATED THE CONDITIONING OF THIS TEAM
5. IS ORGANIZED
6. HAS NFL EXPERIENCE HELPING WITH RECRUITING (MAYBE?)

the negatives:

1. APPARENTLY ZERO ABILITY TO MOTIVATE 18-22 YO BEFORE TAKING THE FIELD
2. IS STUBBORN IN TERMS OF PLAY CALLING STICKING WITH GAMEPLAN WHEN IT WAS A POOR PLAN IN THE FIRST PLACE AND HAS ALREADY FAILED FOR AN ENTIRE QUARTER.
3. IS HE NORV TURNER? (AND AT WORSE, AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL); A COORDINATOR/PLAY CALLER UNABLE TO MOTIVATE AND RELATE PERSONALLY.
4. WHILE HE PREACHES DISCIPLINE THIS AREA IS LACKING ON AND OFF THE FIELD WE HAVE OFF FIELD ISSUES AS COMMON AS THE BIG BOYS AND MUST LEAD THE CONFERENCE IN PERSONAL FOULS
5. LACKS THE FIRE, THE FIRE I SAW IN YEAR ONE WHEN HE DIRECTLY ADDRESSED A PERSONAL FOUL ON THE SIDELINE IN A KIDS FACE. SORRY GUYS, NOT LOOKING FOR BRIAN KELLY, BUT I WATCH ALOT OF COLLEGE FB AND SOME JUICE ON THE SIDELINES FILTERS THROUGH THE KIDS.

* WE HAVE PLAYED ONE SOLID 4 QUARTER GAME THIS YEAR OUT OF 5 WINS AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE WVU WIN CAN BE EXPLAINED SIMPLY BY THEM BEING LESS PREPARED THAN WE WERE COMING OUT OF THE TUNNEL AND SOME TEAMS JUST GET JUMPED IN THE DOME ATMOSPHERE AS RUTGERS DID 2 YEARS AGO.

*"HACKONE" CONTINUES TO PLAY OFFENSE STUBBORNLY! THE USF GAME AS WELL AS THE RUTGERS GAME WAS PURE COACHES EGO...TRYING TO POUND THE BALL WHEN IT ISNT THERE. OFFENSE IS ABOUT DECEPTION AND SPEED AND WE DO HAVE THE TALENT, OUR APPROACH IS POOR. WE DONT PLAY TO BE THE AGGRESSOR AND JUMP OUT AHEAD BY 2 SCORES AND THINK ABOUT IT...WHEN WE PLAY AN OFFENSE THATS BEEN STRUGGLING COMING IN (RUTGERS, USF, RHODDY, UCONN) WE PLAY OFFENSE LIKE WE ONLY NEED TO SCORE 17 POINTS. ITS SO APPARENT, AND WE WILL SEE THE SAME THING AGAINST CINNCY SINCE COLLAROS IS OUT AND THE BACKUP IS INEPT.

Did you stay up all night working on this gem?

Did you notice that three of your "negatives" are asserting the same thing?

 

[CPark Orange]

The expectations for this team and season were to high following last years success... This program was left in shambles following the GRob era!

Marrone... while not perfect and open to criticism... has the ship pointed in the right direction. At this point, I'm satisfied and understand there will be bumps along the road to redemption.

Now, if this is where we're at in year 5... Let's revisit his candidacy for leading this program

 

[syr02esq]

Have you seen what Coach Briles has done at Baylor?!

 

[BlazeOrange]

Why the use of all caps? Are you afraid no one will notice?

Looks like he hit the CAPS LOCK button at the opposite time he intended ("positive" and "negative" headings show in lower case). Fix this and I'll consider reading it.

 

[realcusefan888]

Have you seen what Coach Briles has done at Baylor?!

thank you...briles turned around a worse situation in a much tougher league and somehow got an amazing talent in griffin to come there...but in the end even, with all that talent, he goes for it on offense. part of my point is we watch teams with amazing talent play deceptive offense, use the entire field each and every week...

 

[bnoro]

Lets compare:

Baylor: recruits Texas
Syracuse: recruits New York

Hmmm which talent is better coming out of high school? Thanks for the input, fairweathercusefan888.

 

[realcusefan888]

Lets compare:

Baylor: recruits Texas
Syracuse: recruits New York

Hmmm which talent is better coming out of high school? Thanks for the input, fairweathercusefan888.

oh excuse me...i forgot...out of state recruiting is against ncaa rules...my bad...

 

[wfschrec]

oh excuse me...i forgot...out of state recruiting is against ncaa rules...my bad...

Uh no his point is that even lower level talent overall is better than NY and it is a lot easier to get a kid to stay in state ... Griffin was a 4 star with only one other in state offer (Houston). It is a lot easier to build a program in that recruiting hot bed than it is to get kids to come to snowy CNY ... and if you disagree you have hit your head.

 

[bnoro]

oh excuse me...i forgot...out of state recruiting is against ncaa rules...my bad...

Well it's a little more difficult to convince someone to travel 3,000 miles to school over 30 minutes, right? Is logic that difficult for you?

 

[wfschrec]

Scratch that 3,000 miles to the snow belt after growing up in sunny Texas your entire life ... no big change or anything.

Well it's a little more difficult to convince someone to travel 3,000 miles to school over 30 minutes, right? Is logic that difficult for you?

 

[kingottoiii]

thank you...briles turned around a worse situation in a much tougher league and somehow got an amazing talent in griffin to come there...but in the end even, with all that talent, he goes for it on offense. part of my point is we watch teams with amazing talent play deceptive offense, use the entire field each and every week...

He turned them around in year 4. So why not give Marrone a chance to have the same?

 

[wfschrec]

He turned them around in year 4. So why not give Marrone a chance to have the same?

Because they don't want to wait, its that simple in my mind.

 

[realcusefan888]

He turned them around in year 4. So why not give Marrone a chance to have the same?

because we have been beat by 3 teams that are not better than us(rutgers, uconn, usf...we have better talent than most think and the play calling suggests the coaches dont have confidence either...i also question his ability to motivate, we have not came out ready to play the last 3 games...flat out of the locker room, louisville i could understand bit thats it. the time is now to go for it and next year. after that...we will be taking the field with hunt or broyld as first time starters...do we hit the reset button for doug in 2013 theN?

 

[syr02esq]

Lets compare:

Baylor: recruits Texas
Syracuse: recruits New York

Hmmm which talent is better coming out of high school? Thanks for the input, fairweathercusefan888.

I agree that the bottom level recruits from Texas are better than even the best recruits from New York. But consider that every major BCS power recruits in Texas. Baylor is lucky to get a handful of top Texas 100 talent.

 

[syr02esq]

Uh no his point is that even lower level talent overall is better than NY and it is a lot easier to get a kid to stay in state ... Griffin was a 4 star with only one other in state offer (Houston). It is a lot easier to build a program in that recruiting hot bed than it is to get kids to come to snowy CNY ... and if you disagree you have hit your head.

Actually, Griffin had offers from the other schools in Texas. It was only U of H however, that offered him as a QB. He then followed Briles to Baylor. The irony is that Guy Morris (former Baylor head coach) didn't offer Griffin as a QB.

 

[sufandu]

because we have been beat by 3 teams that are not better than us(rutgers, uconn, usf...we have better talent than most think and the play calling suggests the coaches dont have confidence either...i also question his ability to motivate, we have not came out ready to play the last 3 games...flat out of the locker room, louisville i could understand bit thats it. the time is now to go for it and next year. after that...we will be taking the field with hunt or broyld as first time starters...do we hit the reset button for doug in 2013 theN?

I don't understand the notion that it's a given that Rutgers, UConn, and USF are worse than us. Rutgers should be more talented than us with their recruiting rankings over the last few years. UConn waxed us last year while winning the big east and there should've been some talent left on the team. USF has had higher ranked recruiting classes than us too. Have we closed the gap some? Yeah. Have we surpassed them? I can't find any evidence of that yet. Beating Rutgers two years in a row and USF last year were good coaching jobs, but everyone wants to forget that now.

 

[sufandu]

So you've pointed out that every other school in the country didn't think he was good enough to play quarterback. The fact that he fell between the cracks still illustrates how talented Texas is.

Actually, Griffin had offers from the other schools in Texas. It was only U of H however, that offered him as a QB. He then followed Briles to Baylor. The irony is that Guy Morris (former Baylor head coach) didn't offer Griffin as a QB.

 

[wfschrec]

Actually, Griffin had offers from the other schools in Texas. It was only U of H however, that offered him as a QB. He then followed Briles to Baylor. The irony is that Guy Morris (former Baylor head coach) didn't offer Griffin as a QB.

Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Griffin_III

Again only one other in state offer ... to play with Briles at Houston and then followed him to Baylor ... please don't try to fabricate something and pawn it off as fact ... thanks!

 

[OrangeMuskyFish]

Actually, Griffin had offers from the other schools in Texas. It was only U of H however, that offered him as a QB. He then followed Briles to Baylor. The irony is that Guy Morris (former Baylor head coach) didn't offer Griffin as a QB.

Well... hopefully Broyld can be our QB that nobody else wanted for the position and can help us go through a Baylor-like jump.

 

[SmilinBob]

I like Marrone and what he brings to this team overall.

It is an interesting question though, do all the coaches have the same kind of temperament a kind of business type approach?

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Griffin_III

Again only one other in state offer ... to play with Briles at Houston and then followed him to Baylor ... please don't try to fabricate something and pawn it off as fact ... thanks!

When RG3 leaves Baylor will have another good QB, obviously not the dymanic playmaker that RG3 is but they will have another good qb, IMO. Sure, geography doesn't hurt but the system helps a hell of a lot as well. Again, strong college system, stems from Mike Leach, with strong recruiters at the O coordinator position, who have mostly lower level college experience and a lot of high school experience and recruiting contacts. It's Briles system, no disputing that and it originates from Mike Leach at T Tech as does Holgorsen's

 

[Moontan]

I like Marrone and what he brings to this team overall.

It is an interesting question though, do all the coaches have the same kind of temperament a kind of business type approach?

Sideline Doug is not necessarily the same guy as coaching Doug or locker room Doug.

 

[SmilinBob]

Sideline Doug is not necessarily the same guy as coaching Doug or locker room Doug.

I don't know, that is why I asked. I like the fact that Marrone doesn't get too high or low on the sideline and it gives the players a calming influence.