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OrangeDW said:
Lol, good luck with that. Their time is up and order has been restored to Staples Center.
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He doesn't want to play with LBJ. Clips are playing it smart, taking a down year so they can cash in next offseason.
 
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OttoinGrotto said:
I could dunk all over that unit. Every single one of them.

Even Baynes, although he'd probably give me a groin shot in the process.
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Dunk all you’d like, we have several players capable of 40% and above from the perimeter and you’re not going to contain kyrie, hayward, horford, brown and tatum all at the same time
 
Trueblue25 said:
Dunk all you’d like, we have several players capable of 40% and above from the perimeter and you’re not going to contain kyrie, hayward, horford, brown and tatum all at the same time
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Oh, I would contain them. All by myself.

And dunk on them on the other end of the floor.
 
MikeSU02 said:
Carmelo Anthony's Fit with the Houston Rockets is Underrated—and His NBA Legacy Might Be, Too
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The guy did a good job with the article...except for this:

“Then, in 2014, with the Knicks gearing up for a rebuilding effort under Phil Jackson, Anthony had the opportunity to join situations considered objectively better at the time. He could’ve signed with the Rockets, Chicago Bulls or Los Angeles Lakers. He instead chose the Knicks and their fifth-year carrot, accepting a slight discount.”

That’s just not honest. Not pointing out the money difference. Just claiming the Lakers were a better situation(they weren’t) and leaving it at that. And while the Bulls were a pretty good team...Rose and Noah were on the Knicks and WASHED just 2 years later. Seems like that could’ve been mentioned. Easy to forget that Jimmy Butler was just a decent young player in 2014, too.

Edit: I should also add that at the time the Knicks were trying to win, not “rebuilding”. They had only missed the playoffs once, and were just a season removed from winning 54 games.
 
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OrangeDW said:
The guy did a good job with the article...except for this:

“Then, in 2014, with the Knicks gearing up for a rebuilding effort under Phil Jackson, Anthony had the opportunity to join situations considered objectively better at the time. He could’ve signed with the Rockets, Chicago Bulls or Los Angeles Lakers. He instead chose the Knicks and their fifth-year carrot, accepting a slight discount.”

That’s just not honest. Not pointing out the money difference. Just claiming the Lakers were a better situation(they weren’t) and leaving it at that. And while the Bulls were a pretty good team...Rose and Noah were on the Knicks and WASHED just 2 years later. Seems like that could’ve been mentioned. Easy to forget that Jimmy Butler was just a decent young player in 2014, too.
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I don't think you can have it both ways, you can't have the foresight to say Rose/Noah were washed, and then not have the foresight to say Butler became an all star player the next season. (Noah was 4th in MVP voting that season!)

that said, I knock Melo a lot. I'm never gonna knock him for his decision that summer. Such a ridiculous monetary difference
 
Knicks411 said:
I don't think you can have it both ways, you can't have the foresight to say Rose/Noah were washed, and then not have the foresight to say Butler became an all star player the next season. (Noah was 4th in MVP voting that season!)

that said, I knock Melo a lot. I'm never gonna knock him for his decision that summer. Such a ridiculous monetary difference
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Right, agreed. But you can’t have it both ways the other way too...like they had a prime Butler, Rose, and Noah all at the same time and would’ve had a great chance to win it all if Melo went.

Noah’s falloff coming THAT quickly was probably tough to see. It was starting to become pretty clear that Rose wasn’t getting it back at that point though IMO. And regardless, the money difference with the Bulls was nuts.

The guy went so in depth on everything else, I just thought it came off bad that he glossed over that in one paragraph to more neatly fit the narrative.
 
OrangeDW said:
Right, agreed. But you can’t have it both ways the other way too...like they had a prime Butler, Rose, and Noah all at the same time and would’ve had a great chance to win it all if Melo went.

Noah’s falloff coming THAT quickly was probably tough to see. It was starting to become pretty clear that Rose wasn’t getting it back at that point though IMO. And regardless, the money difference with the Bulls was nuts.

The guy went so in depth on everything else, I just thought it came off bad that he glossed over that in one paragraph to more neatly fit the narrative.
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Yeah agreed. Not going to lie, didn't read the story.

The Bulls were definitely a better situation than the Knicks in 2014, in both foresight and hindsight. Would they have won a title? Seems very unlikely. Not really sure I get the Laker thing though. They were 27-55 that season.
Off topic, I went to look up the Lakers that year on basketball reference, and I looked at the seasons page on basketball ref; can anyone guess who lead the NBA in total assists in 2013-14? (meant 2012-13 actually) I literally would not have guessed this person if you gave me 25 guesses
 
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OrangeDW said:
The guy did a good job with the article...except for this:

“Then, in 2014, with the Knicks gearing up for a rebuilding effort under Phil Jackson, Anthony had the opportunity to join situations considered objectively better at the time. He could’ve signed with the Rockets, Chicago Bulls or Los Angeles Lakers. He instead chose the Knicks and their fifth-year carrot, accepting a slight discount.”

That’s just not honest. Not pointing out the money difference. Just claiming the Lakers were a better situation(they weren’t) and leaving it at that. And while the Bulls were a pretty good team...Rose and Noah were on the Knicks and WASHED just 2 years later. Seems like that could’ve been mentioned. Easy to forget that Jimmy Butler was just a decent young player in 2014, too.
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In 2014,
Noah was coming off 4th in the MVP voting at the age of 28.
Butler was all NBA-Defence, (much more then a decent player)
Rose was a risk, but still just 25, and only 3 years removed from MVP level. He was never going to get to MVP level, but maybe somewhere in between his mediocore 2014 and that level.

The Bulls were 48-34


That was a great winning situation to come into. In hindsight things went really bad for Noah and Rose. But unless Melo is the greatest NBA scout ever, I strongly suspect he thought he was passing on a winning situation at the time.
 
jncuse said:
In 2014,
Noah was coming off 4th in the MVP voting at the age of 28.
Butler was all NBA-Defence, (much more then a decent player)
Rose was a risk, but still just 25, and only 3 years removed from MVP level. He was never going to get to MVP level, but maybe somewhere in between his mediocore 2014 and that level.

The Bulls were 48-34


That was a great winning situation to come into. In hindsight things went really bad for Noah and Rose. But unless Melo is the greatest NBA scout ever, I strongly suspect he thought he was passing on a winning situation at the time.
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Jimmy Butler averaged 13 ppg on .397 shooting in 13-14.

He won Most Improved Player award in 2014-15...he was a decent young player. Good defender. He took a huge jump the following season.

And while it’s true that Rose was 3 seasons removed from MVP, it’s also true that those 3 seasons went about as horribly as they could possibly go as far as injuries and he hadn’t looked nearly the same when he was able to play.

The Bulls were a good team but...I never thought they were beating LeBron. The only prayer would’ve been if Rose somehow got back to MVP form, but that was not looking good even back then.

Melo wouldn’t have put them over the top. Heck, they ended up getting Gasol and he ended up arguably being their best player and it still wasn’t enough.
 
MikeSU02 said:
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I was gonna say kind of surprising, but then I remembered Lowe and Windhorst talking about what Love could potentially make next summer (had an opt out) and it wasn't anything close to that. Can't blame him for taking that money.
 
MikeSU02 said:
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How dare he take the most dollars he can get from a bad team!! He should be looking to take half that money on the best team that wants him!

Oh wait, he was already 3rd wheel on a title team so he’s immune from that dumb stuff.

*moron fan logic
 
Knicks411 said:
I was gonna say kind of surprising, but then I remembered Lowe and Windhorst talking about what Love could potentially make next summer (had an opt out) and it wasn't anything close to that. Can't blame him for taking that money.
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And, to be fair to Cleveland, they aren't getting anyone in free agency, so locking him down and having Sexton, is a solid base to be somewhat competitive.

Also, I think Gilbert wants to keep the value of the team respectable since I think he'll sell in the near future.
 
MikeSU02 said:
And, to be fair to Cleveland, they aren't getting anyone in free agency, so locking him down and having s e xton, is a solid base to be somewhat competitive.

Also, I think Gilbert wants to keep the value of the team respectable since I think he'll sell in the near future.
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I was also just looking at their draft pick situation, they owe a 1 to Atlanta, it's top ten protected this year and next. So if Love was going to leave, their best shot would probably be to trade him now and try and totally bottom out this year and next, keep the pick, and then start to move forward. But since they wanted to keep him, I guess you may as well extend him.

It is a lot of money though. He's a good player, really good even, but 30 a year? I've been a Love fan, but I have to say I am a little wary of big guys who are defensive liabilities. Lot harder to mask a big guy who can't defend as opposed to a guard
 
Knicks411 said:
I was also just looking at their draft pick situation, they owe a 1 to Atlanta, it's top ten protected this year and next. So if Love was going to leave, their best shot would probably be to trade him now and try and totally bottom out this year and next, keep the pick, and then start to move forward. But since they wanted to keep him, I guess you may as well extend him.

It is a lot of money though. He's a good player, really good even, but 30 a year? I've been a Love fan, but I have to say I am a little wary of big guys who are defensive liabilities. Lot harder to mask a big guy who can't defend as opposed to a guard
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It's his team now.

On the one hand, he's never taken a team to the playoffs as the lease guy.

On the other, he's never lost a playoff series before the Finals.
 
OttoinGrotto said:
It's his team now.

On the one hand, he's never taken a team to the playoffs as the lease guy.

On the other, he's never lost a playoff series before the Finals.
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That was my stat!

I was just looking over their roster again. Man, that is a bad team.
 
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