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MD Cuse Fan said:
Yeah this seemed very noticable today at least. Granted the Kavanaugh bros are very shifty/fast. but outside of Olexxo (who did a really nice job on PK) we're not athletic right now down low. Quint made the comment about not having enough ACC level defensemen earlier this season and I think he certainly has a point. Feels like Figueros is going to have a ton of pressure on him coming into next season. I would have had said no need to pick up a pole in the portal because we have so many on the roster but maybe that is something they consider?
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Figueiras being back at 100 percent is a good thing but we still need to pick up a strong FO guy and a few taller athletic SSDM.
 
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DoctahLexus said:
Agreed. I really do like Aviles Rice and Murphy at ssdm but they get overused and worn down. Also are not perfect for the wing.
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Murphy doesn't play wing at all. Idk why they don't try him there. He got a few vs Maryland and none since. I agree with u all 3 are solid. I think some ppl forget yrs passed like the Georgetown tournament game the shortys got torched and watch other games most SSDMs get beat here and there thru out games as they are attacked all game long. I watched Virginia vs ND last week and shortys were getting beat. Those 3 hold there own. Rosa I love his toughness but he's slow and how he plays more then Murphy and on wing is kind of crazy to me but is what it is. Oh also some of the best SSDMs aren't that big like Matt Dziama and Terefanko. No our guys aren't them but just saying don't need to be tall to play solid D. SSDM is not why this team has been losing not even close to their fault. Lol
 
gait got who he could get in the portal at faceoff. zusi and neuman picked being backups at duke and rutgers over going to syracuse to be the starter. guys enter the portal these days for two main reasons: to WIN, or to find a great graduate program. unless a kid wants to go to newhouse (like cole kirst), syracuse is not going to beat out many teams for the top transfers at each position. maybe they could have found a way to get the mullins kid over penn state but given that he left the unc program under mysterious circumstances in the middle of the season maybe there was baggage there they didnt want to deal with. i dont think gait is doing a great job leading this program but not finding answers at fogo in the portal has very little to do with him

not sure if this has mentioned yet but binghamton's matt desouza is in the portal and is actually the kind of guy who might consider syracuse. but if someone like zach cole enters i wouldn't hold my breath (he is also overrated but thats another discussion)
 
nyclax said:
gait got who he could get in the portal at faceoff. zusi and neuman picked being backups at duke and rutgers over going to syracuse to be the starter. guys enter the portal these days for two main reasons: to WIN, or to find a great graduate program. unless a kid wants to go to newhouse (like cole kirst), syracuse is not going to beat out many teams for the top transfers at each position. maybe they could have found a way to get the mullins kid over penn state but given that he left the unc program under mysterious circumstances in the middle of the season maybe there was baggage there they didnt want to deal with. i dont think gait is doing a great job leading this program but not finding answers at fogo in the portal has very little to do with him

not sure if this has mentioned yet but binghamton's matt desouza is in the portal and is actually the kind of guy who might consider syracuse. but if someone like zach cole enters i wouldn't hold my breath (he is also overrated but thats another discussion)
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Right or wrong SU never recruited Neuman from what I heard. I do believe they spoke with Zusi though and they needed to bring him in. Agreed about Mullins, don't think they were ever involved.

Desouza is a guy I mentioned earlier in the week as a reasonable option before I knew he was actually in the portal. He seems like a guy SU will pursue heavily. SU has had a very good track record landing top transfers, the issue has been that 2 years ago they didn't recruit any and last year they only got Richiusa for the X. Everywhere else they landed top options ie Mark, Kirst, Simmons etc.
 
nyclax said:
gait got who he could get in the portal at faceoff. zusi and neuman picked being backups at duke and rutgers over going to syracuse to be the starter. guys enter the portal these days for two main reasons: to WIN, or to find a great graduate program. unless a kid wants to go to newhouse (like cole kirst), syracuse is not going to beat out many teams for the top transfers at each position. maybe they could have found a way to get the mullins kid over penn state but given that he left the unc program under mysterious circumstances in the middle of the season maybe there was baggage there they didnt want to deal with. i dont think gait is doing a great job leading this program but not finding answers at fogo in the portal has very little to do with him

not sure if this has mentioned yet but binghamton's matt desouza is in the portal and is actually the kind of guy who might consider syracuse. but if someone like zach cole enters i wouldn't hold my breath (he is also overrated but thats another discussion)
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Desouza has very good stats. Facing off at 65% this year and the high 50s for his career. His competition hasn’t been the highest this season but he did go 9-16 against Leigh and I presume Sisselberger. He has been splitting duties at the x with a teammate pretty evenly so that’s a bit curious I guess. Not the biggest kid at 5’8 but he must be doing something right. Think bringing in someone like this is something they should focus on.

I think you could give them a little more credit for their work in the transfer portal. Kirst did come for Newhouse but not sure any other of the transfers did. I have to imagine Simmons was recruited by more than just SU. Mark had some questions about his level of competition but I have to imagine a lot of other teams wanted him. He has been pretty open about wanting to come to Syracuse since he was a kid. And credit to the staff they did bring in two SSDMs but they just didn’t work out.

Beau Pederson from Princeton is in the portal at SSDM and stands at the prototypical size. SU has not had good luck with Ivy transfers but still seems like the type of player that SU needs to target. He was an honorable All American last year.
 
there may be several Cornell kids at the end of this yr or next who may want 1 more yr as well and not want to change location completely.

Long has a yr left and has been injured enough maybe he wants 1 more yr
Blake the same
piatelli
Petrakis
 
Orangello said:
Gait is not the answer. FOGO and wing play is absolutely disgraceful. If not for Mark I feel like our record could be significantly worse. We need a young fully engaged coach who will make adjustments on the fly as necessary and teach/emphasize basic lacrosse skills. Our coach is playing CEO I've got more important things to do...That doesn't work in todays game. This team does so many dumb things constantly where they do not have the margin of error to overcome them. Discipline and control is a major issue I see. Kept running out Fine when he was falling down on every draw and losing. Why? Passing, clearing, situational awareness...You're scoring goals passing and moving the ball pop pop pop get the team back in the game and then suddenly for no discernable reason, we go to iso hero ball and the offense shuts down. Why? Rhoa's crease violation is exhibit #1. There is no doubt in my mind we have the athletes and the recruiting and yet... To be embarrassed like this at home by ND, wake up. Enough. And fug the ND fans laughing it up in our house with a huge crowd.
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He kept running Fine out there cause Fine was the only kid who could do anything. Not sure what else you think he should’ve done. Richuisa has been terrible. 41% on the season and his 0-3 yesterday was not even close.

The hero ball is on the players and imo it was mostly Hiltz. The ball often dies in his stick followed by a bad forced shot, and he had two brutal decisions shooting yesterday that really cost the team. One was a pull it out situation where he let it fly anyways with no backup and the other was an equally bad mid high shot on manup (if I remember correctly) it was manup without so much as one pass. I’m mostly seeing Hiltz with these kinds things.
 
Powellfan said:
Desouza has very good stats. Facing off at 65% this year and the high 50s for his career. His competition hasn’t been the highest this season but he did go 9-16 against Leigh and I presume Sisselberger. He has been splitting duties at the x with a teammate pretty evenly so that’s a bit curious I guess. Not the biggest kid at 5’8 but he must be doing something right. Think bringing in someone like this is something they should focus on.

I think you could give them a little more credit for their work in the transfer portal. Kirst did come for Newhouse but not sure any other of the transfers did. I have to imagine Simmons was recruited by more than just SU. Mark had some questions about his level of competition but I have to imagine a lot of other teams wanted him. He has been pretty open about wanting to come to Syracuse since he was a kid. And credit to the staff they did bring in two SSDMs but they just didn’t work out.

Beau Pederson from Princeton is in the portal at SSDM and stands at the prototypical size. SU has not had good luck with Ivy transfers but still seems like the type of player that SU needs to target. He was an honorable All American last year.
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pederson has family history at both virginia and michigan and his best friend goes to hopkins. cuse will have a tough time grabbing him

they may have a chance with jake stevens. i would say sam english as well but i assume he will want to play with one of his brothers

simmons was a good pickup but i dont know if i'd call him one of the top transfers. i was talking mcconvey, mazzone, hudgins, tevlin, fake. those kind of guys. all americans. simmons is a tier below
 
Looking at stats by quarter yesterday, the face-offs and shots jump off the page. The numbers were pretty even through 3 qtrs and then the wheels fell off. While there may be concerns about coaching, defense etc., I think losing 9 of 11 face-offs was THE game. You change those numbers to a 50/50 split and Cuse could have kept it close. With face-offs in our favour, I can't see us losing given the effectiveness of the offense. It's a shame because ND's defense is not as strong as most thought and was exposed the week before by UVA. Entenmann has benefitted from the strong D in the past but looked rather ordinary against our offense.

At least Princeton doesn't have an elite fogo! Better statistically than Cuse but Cuse has had tougher opponents so maybe equally weak. Princeton goalie Gianforcaro has played quite well and was a very highly rated recruit from Culver.
 
Cuse All-In said:
Looking at stats by quarter yesterday, the face-offs and shots jump off the page. The numbers were pretty even through 3 qtrs and then the wheels fell off. While there may be concerns about coaching, defense etc., I think losing 9 of 11 face-offs was THE game. You change those numbers to a 50/50 split and Cuse could have kept it close. With face-offs in our favour, I can't see us losing given the effectiveness of the offense. It's a shame because ND's defense is not as strong as most thought and was exposed the week before by UVA. Entenmann has benefitted from the strong D in the past but looked rather ordinary against our offense.

At least Princeton doesn't have an elite fogo! Better statistically than Cuse but Cuse has had tougher opponents so maybe equally weak. Princeton goalie Gianforcaro has played quite well and was a very highly rated recruit from Culver.
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Big upcoming game IMO. The Princeton game is very winnable for Cuse. They win that one and I could see them stealing an upset (or two) in their last three games (all ACC). But without the momentum of a win vs PU, that likely won't happen.
 
Is there any word on clary? Mean is he done and their just saying he week to week or what’s deal? One thing not fan of college they don’t have to mention bout injuries really. But be nice to have him back and put him up on wings keep olexo down low so not running him back and forth. But def need to play few more guys during games so dudes arnt dead tired towards end. Yes faceoffs are def big big part holding this team back. But still losing ground ball battle and few same turnover mistakes at times. But i agree if can get dub next week would do wonder for confidence heading forward. Either way anit gonna get easier for faceoffs. Also duke has looked completely diff since they played us. That game beating us in overtime ever since been very hott lately.
 
Cuse4455 said:
What annoys me is now John Hopkins is good again.
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They are really not much better than us. Defense is a lot more reliable than ours but our O is better. We played them even in the dome. Didn’t make the plays down the stretch.
 
tech37 said:
Big upcoming game IMO. The Princeton game is very winnable for Cuse. They win that one and I could see them stealing an upset (or two) in their last three games (all ACC). But without the momentum of a win vs PU, that likely won't happen.
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Not nearly as optimistic about Princeton game as you. They seemed to have a rounded a corner in their last two games. Put up 23 against Yale and lost 21 of 32 faceoffs but still beat Brown by four (another example of how faceoffs aren’t everything). MacKesey is a terror and I’m not sure we have anyone on the roster who can guard him. It would be really encouraging if SU could win one of these last few games but I have my doubts.

The more I think about the coaching situation the less optimistic I am about that as well. As of Friday, so before this weekends games, Syracuse leads DI in penalties with 46. I’ve always equated that with poor coaching. Other top teams are up there (UNC with 43, Duke with 38), but to me it says you’ve got a team that is getting beat, that is being overly aggressive, and that is undisciplined. With SU losing so many faceoffs it puts them at another disadvantage to face so many extra man opportunities. The bright side is that they ranked 12th in penalty kills.

Additionally it seems like I’m every game they are starting from a deficit. Against UNC and Maryland it felt like those games were over in the first quarter. They came back to make those games respectable, and to a bigger extent with Notre Dame, but even against the lesser teams like Hofstra and Hobart they are letting teams score multiple goals before they get on the scoreboard. Why isn’t this team starting the game when the opening whistle blows? Again, kudos to them for coming back but they put themselves in huge holes, and against the better teams they can’t pull themselves out.
 
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Powellfan said:
The more I think about the coaching situation the less optimistic I am about that as well. As of Friday, so before this weekends games Syracuse leads division one in penalties (46) and I’ve always equated that with poor coaching. Other top teams are up there (UNC with 43, Duke with 38). To me it says you’ve got a team that is getting beat, that is being overly aggressive, and that you’re undisciplined. With SU losing so many faceoffs it puts them at another disadvantage to face so many extra man opportunities.
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If you're over aggressive, you commit more penalties. If you don't bother to play defense at all, you don't commit any penalties. Find a balance.

And one of those 46 penalties was Hiltz being offsides by a tippy-toe for a second against Bona. I won't hold it against the lad.
 
As for the outlook for the Princeton and the other future games I worry now about the psyche of the team given the total collapse yesterday after the Finn Thomson goal/no goal. And it wasn't just losing faceoffs. GG seemed to do nothing to stop the onslaught. Like maybe call a timeout to calm them down and boost them up. An experienced coach might have called a timeout right after ND scored that next goal. I've been told by a reliable source that last year the team lost confidence in GG and that was part of why they finished the season so poorly. Could that happen again? Hopefully with the leadership of Kirst & Simmons it won't. But . . . .
 
DoctahLexus said:
They are really not much better than us. Defense is a lot more reliable than ours but our O is better. We played them even in the dome. Didn’t make the plays down the stretch.
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Mods why do we have to deal with the obvious troll nyclax. I have him on ignore so now he puts laugh emojis on my posts I guess. He is clearly a troll and it’s frustrating to have him doing the same BS he was doing a year ago
 
I agree with gait not using timeouts in middle of run. If memory serves me right he didn’t call timeout also when unc pulled away for those 5-6 goals. That was close game for bit then things fell apart giving up goals left n right without stopping it once. But thinking bout it really to stop at run need to win faceoff. So can call timeout n setttle guys down but if just lose next 3-5 faceoffs after team scores n scores really what is that timeout gonna change. Kinda just thought bout it now. I still would use timeout after maby 3 goal run not doubt use one when team goes for 9. But as said if can’t win ball not much to stop the run. Defense just needs to dig down deep and play solid entire game not 48mintues. Think truely underestimate how young this team is and lack of experience as said magnifies when not winning faceoffs. I’d like to see maby kol switch at times for beck. Beck has really nice size n as said plays on man down. This team desperately needs a ranked win.
 
i ment i agree with someone on here how gait doesn’t use timeouts during runs. Not saying i agree with gait not using them sorry.
 
if there are any chances of winning any games left. I feel it’s princeton and unc. Duke and uva have dominate faceoff guys who not just win but can produce also. Plus their defenses are very good with uva’s being very big. As stated way duke has played ever since our overtime game something seems to click. Duke had interesting game plan for uva by making payton cormier being a dodger rather then finisher. Yes he still scored but duke won the game. Not sure we have enough speed on d to cover shelly and slim reaper tho. Stranger things have happen as we did beat them twice the year they won chip. But phaup also dominated the x those games. Do not see that happening. Plus uva likes to ten man ride which we haven’t seen slot of that on us. Our ride started out being trouble for dame in beginning then kinda felt like we just didn’t do it as much or dame just figured it out i don’t know.
 
DoctahLexus said:
Mods why do we have to deal with the obvious troll nyclax. I have him on ignore so now he puts laugh emojis on my posts I guess. He is clearly a troll and it’s frustrating to have him doing the same BS he was doing a year ago
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Definitely not a troll. A little snarky sometimes but he posts valuable insight. Unless he’s just making things up (which I don’t think he is) I’ve learned a lot from his posts. I like when other posters from different teams post here. It would be boring if it was just us SU fans trying to make ourselves feel better. His post about the Fogo from Binghamton is why I log in here.
 
Powellfan said:
Definitely not a troll. A little snarky sometimes but he posts valuable insight. Unless he’s just making things up (which I don’t think he is) I’ve learned a lot from his posts. I like when other posters from different teams post here. It would be boring if it was just us SU fans trying to make ourselves feel better. His post about the Fogo from Binghamton is why I log in here.
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But he messes with me. He has to at least not mess with cuse fans if he is going to be here. I agree he knows more about the game than most here and that’s why it’s frustrating. He antagonizes and he’s not even a cuse fan. That should not be allowed.
 
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