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ORANGE UNITED NIL

I recently dreamed that I had become a billionaire, casually delivering million-dollar briefcases to five-star recruits in football and basketball. Soon after, our teams were winning championships in both sports. When I woke up, I found myself half-asleep, slouched off the couch with a chub. One can dream, after all…… right?
 
Cuse On 3 said:
I recently dreamed that I had become a billionaire, casually delivering million-dollar briefcases to five-star recruits in football and basketball. Soon after, our teams were winning championships in both sports. When I woke up, I found myself half-asleep, slouched off the couch with a chub. One can dream, after all…… right?
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I play the Powerball when it reaches a certain amount.

Cuse FB would easily be set for a looong time. I don't need much.

West End Zone Atrium addition would be sweet too.
 
Cuse On 3 said:
I recently dreamed that I had become a billionaire, casually delivering million-dollar briefcases to five-star recruits in football and basketball. Soon after, our teams were winning championships in both sports. When I woke up, I found myself half-asleep, slouched off the couch with a chub. One can dream, after all…… right?
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Full or half?
 
orangefog said:
Full or half?
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orangetrain said:
Why is it the fault of SU? They didn’t run it.
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Because they can promote contributing to NIL and there has been no recent communication on the best way to do that and we've got a whole thread of diehards that are wondering that now. Even you've had a couple posts that state "From what I've been told" and "You should check. I am of the understanding..." and "I’ve heard Orange United and Athletes who care are no longer involved."

Nobody knows for sure! We need clear communication!
 
SANIL - the parent company signed a new school this week. I don’t think they were super transparent with their schools
 
MSOrange said:
Because they can promote contributing to NIL and there has been no recent communication on the best way to do that and we've got a whole thread of diehards that are wondering that now. Even you've had a couple posts that state "From what I've been told" and "You should check. I am of the understanding..." and "I’ve heard Orange United and Athletes who care are no longer involved."

Nobody knows for sure! We need clear communication!
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Did the best I could to warn everyone.
 
MSOrange said:
Because they can promote contributing to NIL and there has been no recent communication on the best way to do that and we've got a whole thread of diehards that are wondering that now.
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I believe at this point SU would rather steer anyone to contribute to the CAF and help them with that $20M in direct payments. Last time I met with my rep they didn't really seem interested in donations for infrastructure or whatever.

cuse.com

Syracuse Athletics Launches Sweeping $50M Campaign to Create Champions and Win Championships - Syracuse University Athletics

Syracuse University Athletics today announced the launch of Champion 'CUSE: The Campaign for Syracuse Athletics — a sweeping $50 million fundraising campaign...
cuse.com cuse.com

I don't like it, personally. With the small NIL stuff it's clear what you're doing, and if you're doing the big stuff you're either rich, or a business actually buying some NIL license. But as a moderate university donor it's a very different sell to think you're giving money to endow the school vs giving money that you know they're going to turn around and put right into their payroll.
 
orangetrain said:
Did the best I could to warn everyone.
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And I appreciate it. I lowered my annual donation for Orange United that will be paid next month based on your information. But it'd be really nice to know from official channels if I'm just flushing that money down the toilet or what exactly it's going towards at this point.
 
orangetrain said:
Why is it the fault of SU? They didn’t run it.
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They did name Orange United their preferred collective then chose to terminate the relationship for convenience. My understanding is that Orange United (and several other collectives) would have migrated to the Blueprint Sports umbrella with SANIL ceasing operations. In fact, the BPS CEO was directly involved in negotiations with Kevin Morgan as late as late August/early September. I know that SU would prefer that individual modest to midsize donations first go to ChampionCuse and the Athletics Excellence Fund that supports student athlete revenue sharing.

I will speculate that initiative needs more immediate support and that by streamlining the donation options the administration sees this as a strategy to funnel more money through internal channels.

I am rarely critical of the SUAD, but in this scenario I am troubled by how long donors who were on a monthly subscription model and the individuals who were running the Orange United collective were strung along by the University. I am also questioning what the transition plan is for funds in Orange United’s hands right now. Some of that money, including the SyraCRUZ Tailgate treasury and ongoing donations from its supporters, was earmarked for sports other than football and men’s basketball primarily through tailgate guest appearances that I wrote into the contract with OUC. In many cases this was the only NIL money that soccer, lacrosse and other minor sports athletes received. Finally I am disappointed that our group’s efforts that helped pay for a soccer players books for a semester and a women’s basketball player’s family’s hotel room so they could watch her play on the road.

And personally, I am sure those of you who have had the opportunity to meet Mark Hayes, the GM of Orange United will agree he deserved better. Mark’s love of the Irange led him to leave a position with the Syracuse Crunch and agree to head a preferred collective that lasted less than two years.
 
JeffCuse said:
Any chance that Orange United gets folded into Opendorse?
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Doubtful. Opendorse has been pretty niche and specializes in Cameo style transactions with a menu based approach for individual donors. They may try to acquire some technology like SANIL’s payment mechanism but I would be surprised to see them launch a full collective model. And even if they do, I think it is becoming apparent that SU wants all modest and medium donations to flow internally.

This is where I first came across Opendorse:

opendorse.com

The Official Providence Friars Marketplace for NIL Deals - Opendorse

Support Providence Friars athletes. Powered by Opendorse.
opendorse.com opendorse.com
 
Consigliere said:
Doubtful. Opendorse has been pretty niche and specializes in Cameo style transactions with a menu based approach for individual donors. They may try to acquire some technology like SANIL’s payment mechanism but I would be surprised to see them launch a full collective model. And even if they do, I think it is becoming apparent that SU wants all modest and medium donations to flow internally.

This is where I first came across Opendorse:

opendorse.com

The Official Providence Friars Marketplace for NIL Deals - Opendorse

Support Providence Friars athletes. Powered by Opendorse.
opendorse.com opendorse.com
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In fact several current Orange athletes have profiles with them.

Discover Athletes - Opendorse

Pitch deals including shoutouts, social posts, appearances, or try our ‘pitch anything’ feature for a custom request
opendorse.com opendorse.com
 
Consigliere said:
They did name Orange United their preferred collective then chose to terminate the relationship for convenience. My understanding is that Orange United (and several other collectives) would have migrated to the Blueprint Sports umbrella with SANIL ceasing operations. In fact, the BPS CEO was directly involved in negotiations with Kevin Morgan as late as late August/early September. I know that SU would prefer that individual modest to midsize donations first go to ChampionCuse and the Athletics Excellence Fund that supports student athlete revenue sharing.

I will speculate that initiative needs more immediate support and that by streamlining the donation options the administration sees this as a strategy to funnel more money through internal channels.

I am rarely critical of the SUAD, but in this scenario I am troubled by how long donors who were on a monthly subscription model and the individuals who were running the Orange United collective were strung along by the University. I am also questioning what the transition plan is for funds in Orange United’s hands right now. Some of that money, including the SyraCRUZ Tailgate treasury and ongoing donations from its supporters, was earmarked for sports other than football and men’s basketball primarily through tailgate guest appearances that I wrote into the contract with OUC. In many cases this was the only NIL money that soccer, lacrosse and other minor sports athletes received. Finally I am disappointed that our group’s efforts that helped pay for a soccer players books for a semester and a women’s basketball player’s family’s hotel room so they could watch her play on the road.

And personally, I am sure those of you who have had the opportunity to meet Mark Hayes, the GM of Orange United will agree he deserved better. Mark’s love of the Irange led him to leave a position with the Syracuse Crunch and agree to head a preferred collective that lasted less than two years.
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Well said, brother. 144 percent agree. I feel for Mark. He's a great guy and was in a lose-lose position.
 

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