Oshae Staying in the 2019 NBA Draft

[Cusefan0307]

I think it’s best for everyone that he moves on.

 

[cusefan88]

If he goes pro I hope he finds great success!

 

[FrancoPizza]

My understanding is that he will not be sending JB any xmas cards.

Is there anyone on the team that JB would receive a card from? Besides buddy?

 

[Zepharus]

Oh boy. Fer real? Oshae regressed this year and needs to take a long hard look at himself and dedicate himself to improvement in all facets of the game. But JB needs to tone down his act. He’s not helping himself and not all kids are gonna respond well to his tirades, unless it’s backed up by genuine affection and a connection to each player. Autry and the assistants also need to step up as the good cops. Follow Hop’s lead as the positive reinforcement guys.

You know how Boeheim do... He ain't the "Roy Boy"type. He sure isn't handing out hugs...

 

[supp]

Ready for completely different roster

How many times are we going to say this? At some point, we have to realize that there is only one constant and it's not the kids.

It may not even be a matter of "losing a step." There are endless studies that suggest college students favor younger and male instructors. They get better evaluations and there is evidence that learning outcomes also improve as a result, all things being equal. Older men and women fare poorer in these same studies. Why would it be drastically different with coaches?

 

[NineOneSeven]

So many awful takes in this thread.

 

[Sudano]

Howard is 6'5". Brissett is clearly taller than that.View attachment 157817

LOL. Do you understand the concept of forced perspective. I got one for you too.

 

[pfister1]

That's a funny post, but as arbiter of nicknaming I will confess that I approve of "Big Bad Bobby" Braswell.

:gavel'd:

Baddest man in the whole damn dome.

 

[Sherman20]

One of the two guys I heard about, I don't expect him back.

Who else?

 

[Sherman20]

How many times are we going to say this? At some point, we have to realize that there is only one constant and it's not the kids.

It may not even be a matter of "losing a step." There are endless studies that suggest college students favor younger and male instructors. They get better evaluations and there is evidence that learning outcomes also improve as a result, all things being equal. Older men and women fare poorer in these same studies. Why would it be drastically different with coaches?

Very interesting point.

 

[acuse816]

LOL. Do you understand the concept of forced perspective. I got one for you too. View attachment 157818

I understand the concept, but the photo I shared is not an example of that. In your photo, the two being compared are not next to each other, and the camera is not vertically parallel with either of them. In the below photo, the camera is much more vertically parallel and Brissett and Howard are right next to each other. I feel dumb arguing about something like this, but want to make sure you fully understand what forced perspective is.

 

[tbonezone]

i think we see Oshae back. good player but not his draft. lots of upside still.

 

[OrangeDW]

Is there anyone on the team that JB would receive a card from? Besides buddy?

I don’t think that’s uncommon. In 5-10 years I bet a lot of them would feel differently, as they realize he was probably the best coach they ever had.

 

[realorange]

Before people tear into his decision, I just want to say that despite his inconsistency I still believe he has the upside of a pro. He just needs some a lot of work.

Fixed

 

[hungrychuck]

Oshae clearly needs a lot of work.

Perhaps he has made a calculation as to whether this coaching staff provides the best teaching environment for that work.

 

[realorange]

So did Roberson, he stuck it out 4 years...

So did RonySeikaly

 

[moqui]

How many times are we going to say this? At some point, we have to realize that there is only one constant and it's not the kids.

It may not even be a matter of "losing a step." There are endless studies that suggest college students favor younger and male instructors. They get better evaluations and there is evidence that learning outcomes also improve as a result, all things being equal. Older men and women fare poorer in these same studies. Why would it be drastically different with coaches?

aarp eligible coaches in the sweet 16
mark few, 56
bruce pearl, 59
john calipari, 60
dana altman, 60
kelvin sampson, 63
tom izzo, 64
rick barnes, 64
john beilien, 66
roy williams,68
leonard hamilton, 70
mike krzyzewski, 72

that's almost 3/4 of the field

 

[Sherman20]

Hop yells at guys too.

I don’t have a problem with yelling, although I don’t think it’s always the best approach. But Hop forges genuine connections with his players whereas JB can come off to some of them as aloof. Hop talked about how JB has softened over the years and really worked to show himself and connect with the players. But I worry that he’s regressed. of course this could just be an Oshae-specific issue.

 

[kingtidge]

I hope I stay.

I gone.

 

[supp]

aarp eligible coaches in the sweet 16
mark few, 56
bruce pearl, 59
john calipari, 60
dana altman, 60
kelvin sampson, 63
tom izzo, 64
rick barnes, 64
john beilien, 66
roy williams,68
leonard hamilton, 70
mike krzyzewski, 72

that's almost 3/4 of the field

There's also a reason why Boeheim is the oldest coach in D-1 history. Most people his age have their feet up, either in the barcalounger or the coffin. He's really, really old. He could be half of those guys' dads. Nearly 80 is not the new 40. 60 might be.

 

[jgeorge322]

There's also a reason why Boeheim is the oldest coach in D-1 history. Most people his age have their feet up, either in the barcalounger or the coffin. He's really, really old. He could be half of those guys' dads. Nearly 80 is not the new 40. 60 might be.

Ok but 74 isnt nearly 80 either

 

[kingtidge]

If his skills have peaked I’m glad to see him leave. Couldn’t shoot worth a damn.

I would venture a guess his skills weren't really improving in our playground offense.

To put it another way, if you came back for a second year to improve your draft stock, and your stock drops like a rock, you'd prolly want to leave too.

I don't begrudge him that. Good luck to him if he leaves.

 

[kcsu]

He hasn't even left yet lol.

Yes he has.

 

[supp]

Ok but 74 isnt nearly 80 either

Fine. I'm just sick of people blaming the kids. Boeheim's responsible for everything in this program. This is a business worth tens of millions of dollars yearly. Not grandpa's retirement hobby. When do you call him to the mat? What will it take?

 

[kingtidge]

Who else?

Carey has been big in the rumor mill...