Pete Thamel

[anomander]

Coach Mac was a linebacker coach when hired by SU.

In the 80’s.

Serious question. Is any other P5 program hiring a position coach who has 1 year of experience as a Co-DC.

No wonder were the laughing stock of college football.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Hypothetical...

1. Candle comes in with his deep ties recruiting the talent beds of Ohio, Michigan, Western PA, etc. and now has a P5 ACC program to sell. When have we ever had real recruiting cred in Ohio?? It's not far away at all and that state is rife with talent... OSU, PSU, and Mich can't get them all. BOOM.

2. He brings on assistants with strong Northeast experience and recruiting ties (Addazio ilk, etc.) so we still have focus on the near coast.

3. He keeps Nunzio and D. Thomas from the current staff to keep our stamp in Jersey (and keep LaQuint from portaling.)

All wild speculation of course, but the makeup of the staff to cover the recruiting beds in target regions will be as important as any other big factor to success.

Candle is a successful, experienced FBS coach and knows this without guessing.

He will not be a total "learn on the job* candidate as I fear some of these other alternative names mentioned would likely be.

Uhm, so...

You should probably catch up on Fran Brown.

 

[storange]

All I know is Testicular Fortitudis likes him (Brown) That’s good of enough for me !!

 

[ClkWrkOrange]

I'm guessing 3.5-4

For a position coach that's never been a HC?

 

[TheHaze315]

Hypothetical...

1. Candle comes in with his deep ties recruiting the talent beds of Ohio, Michigan, Western PA, etc. and now has a P5 ACC program to sell. When have we ever had real recruiting cred in Ohio?? It's not far away at all and that state is rife with talent... OSU, PSU, and Mich can't get them all. BOOM.

2. He brings on assistants with strong Northeast experience and recruiting ties (Addazio ilk, etc.) so we still have focus on the near coast.

3. He keeps Nunzio and D. Thomas from the current staff to keep our stamp in Jersey (and keep LaQuint from portaling.)

All wild speculation of course, but the makeup of the staff to cover the recruiting beds in target regions will be as important as any other big factor to success.

Candle is a successful, experienced FBS coach and knows this without guessing.

He will not be a total "learn on the job* candidate as I fear some of these other alternative names mentioned would likely be.

Fran Brown is by all accounts is going to be the coach it would seem

 

[mscanlo]

Even us super fans don’t really have a clue who “Fran Brown” is lol.

Neither do most Georgia fans

 

[AZOrange]

In the 80’s.

Serious question. Is any other P5 program hiring a position coach who has 1 year of experience as a Co-DC.

No wonder were the laughing stock of college football.

Pro teams are doing it…see Mike McDaniel

 

[Toga]

Hypothetical...

1. Candle comes in with his deep ties recruiting the talent beds of Ohio, Michigan, Western PA, etc. and now has a P5 ACC program to sell. When have we ever had real recruiting cred in Ohio?? It's not far away at all and that state is rife with talent... OSU, PSU, and Mich can't get them all. BOOM.

2. He brings on assistants with strong Northeast experience and recruiting ties (Addazio ilk, etc.) so we still have focus on the near coast.

3. He keeps Nunzio and D. Thomas from the current staff to keep our stamp in Jersey (and keep LaQuint from portaling.)

All wild speculation of course, but the makeup of the staff to cover the recruiting beds in target regions will be as important as any other big factor to success.

Candle is a successful, experienced FBS coach and knows this without guessing.

He will not be a total "learn on the job* candidate as I fear some of these other alternative names mentioned would likely be.

All three are mixed bags. As far as recruiting Candle has only one player on the roster east of Ohio. None from Pennsylvania.

 

[texascpa]

For a position coach that's never been a HC?

That would put us in the mid-50's in salary and in line with a few other position coaches that became head coaches.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Hypothetical...

1. Candle comes in with his deep ties recruiting the talent beds of Ohio, Michigan, Western PA, etc. and now has a P5 ACC program to sell. When have we ever had real recruiting cred in Ohio?? It's not far away at all and that state is rife with talent... OSU, PSU, and Mich can't get them all. BOOM.

2. He brings on assistants with strong Northeast experience and recruiting ties (Addazio ilk, etc.) so we still have focus on the near coast.

3. He keeps Nunzio and D. Thomas from the current staff to keep our stamp in Jersey (and keep LaQuint from portaling.)

All wild speculation of course, but the makeup of the staff to cover the recruiting beds in target regions will be as important as any other big factor to success.

Candle is a successful, experienced FBS coach and knows this without guessing.

He will not be a total "learn on the job* candidate as I fear some of these other alternative names mentioned would likely be.

And very boring

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Pro teams are doing it…see Mike McDaniel

And people LOVE Mike McDaniel.

 

[FreakTalksAboutSU]

I expect Brown closer to 3mill which will allow for more to be spent on the DC and OC.

We really need a good OC.

 

[kingtidge]

And very boring

11-1... And 6-0 at home this year

I'd take boring for 11-1 any year.

Also, I bet it's not that boring.

 

[XC Cuse]

And people LOVE Mike McDaniel.

McDaniel is a great coach. Fran... Who knows

 

[qdawgg]

Thamel is the kind of reporter to come in from left field and break the real story with the real coach over night. No knowledge of anything. But it is interesting Thamel is quiet. Makes me wonder.

Yeah, kind of what I’m getting at.

 

[AZOrange]

McDaniel is a great coach. Fran... Who knows

Again home run swing though…

 

[XC Cuse]

Again home run swing though…

Not really. McDaniel was thought of as a great offensive mind, not a great recruiter. Huge difference.

 

[llandz]

I mean no offense to you or the player's mother but that statement is crazy. Just because he did well with a little adversity for a week doesn't make him a long term solution.

How would she know what type of coach/recruiter/human Chesney is to be "concerned" about his hire?

The point is that she is not impressed with Chesney and his lack of P5 experience. She is doing her homework and really looking into the potential options. So then you can equate Chesney to a coach who coached I think it was 6 games for Rutgers as an interim head coach. And then she knows what went on with the players this week and how Nunzio pulled them together. She knows things that went on before the Wake game that I have not read anywhere. Not even a rumor. So I think she has a pretty good hold on things. PS. Her son has no interest in leaving Syracuse. She is not a fan of the transfer portal and believes in completing what you start. She also is not a fan of what NIL is doing. So who the coach is going to be is extremely important as they plan on staying at Syracuse no matter what.

 

[tep624]

Don't see it. I constantly hear how great he is, then he delivers Fran Brown. What a joke. This may be the literal worst hire imaginable.

Well how this FB HC search plays out will ultimately decide the success of Wildhack’s tenure as AD so I suspect he’s putting all of his effort into finding the right candidate with the resources available.

 

[kingtidge]

Uhm, so...

You should probably catch up on Fran Brown.

Yeah I have heard the latest rumor.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

I actually felt confident given all the names being thrown around. Outside of Mullen, I didn't love anyone. But at the same time we had a lot of good candidates and I didn't hate anyone, except Brown. I really hope he isn't the guy, but I also have very little faith in JW so I would not be surprised. Trying to go the Deion route is like concentrating on the E and forgetting the S in ESPN.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Not really. McDaniel was thought of as a great offensive mind, not a great recruiter. Huge difference.

McDaniel is the Lewis hire.

 

[Scooch]

Don't see it. I constantly here how great he is, then he delivers Fran Brown. What a joke. This may be the literal worst hire imaginable.

We should let the guy coach a game first. Maybe even a season. Hell, perhaps two seasons. And then we can decide he’s the worst hire imaginable.

 

[CanadianSU]

We should let the guy coach a game first. Maybe even a season. Hell, perhaps two seasons. And then we can decide he’s the worst hire imaginable.

truth is regardless of who was hired we don’t have a clue. People going “iM sO doNe” were going to do that even after Dan Mullen’s second loss.

 

[The Viking]

I expect Brown closer to 3mill which will allow for more to be spent on the DC and OC.

We really need a good OC.

We have a pretty good OC right now. A few months ago, lots on this forum wished Beck was the HC. I'm not pushing it, just sayin'