Class of 2023 PF Joseph "JP" Estrella (ME / Brewster) Offered

[Sbucketball]

JP, your name is really Joe isn't it...ISN'T IT?! Where were you on the night of August 5th? You were at the Boeheim's, weren't you?

That's why we leave it to the podcast hosts to strike a nice balance. Don't want the kid walking away feeling like he just got a proctology exam

 

[orangefog]

That's why we leave it to the podcast hosts to strike a nice balance. Don't want the kid walking away feeling like he just got a proctology exam

We're not Penn State.

 

[Sbucketball]

Based on the previous page in this thread, I was hoping he was going to pull the trigger today. Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding things, but should I be celebrating?

 

[richmondcuse03]

Good timing. Announces day before football opener. Buzz for basketball followed by a big win.

 

[NKR1978]

Yeah well Iowa's 247 insider can battle between my balls.

That sounds painful. I don't think you thought that one through. Though perhaps you did?

 

[DaveT]

All I know for sure is I have no idea where he will end up. 24/7 says Iowa. But we know how good prediction sites are. It is a good fit for us, I hope he sees it the same way. As old as I am I do remember being 17-18 and my decision making process. Not great. So we wait...and as all SU fans do, hope.

 

[AZOrange]

I think those are in the right order top to bottom.

 

[Sbucketball]

Get Estrella and Ducharme, and retain the 2022 guys who will have a year of experience under their belt, and we have a Top 25 team. Dangerous team that could string 6 games together in March-April. Add a 5-star in 2024 and we'll retake our rightful spot reigning over college basketball. Then with the program back, it's just a matter of continuing to get a mix of solid contributors and super stars.

 

[TheHaze315]

I’m supremely confident here. Which means he’s going to Iowa, sorry fellas.

 

[All4SU]

Every day, I visit this board and am extremely grateful that my career never depended on convincing or predicting what 17 year old kids will do.

 

[AZOrange]

Every day, I visit this board and am extremely grateful that my career never depended on convincing or predicting what 17 year old kids will do.

You and me both

 

[littlereg]

You and me both

I’m gonna be honest, I never saw the allure some people got from the kids side of it as well. I’ve seen people say time and time again “they’re enjoying the process” but then you also see a lot of “I just want to get it over with”s and I think I would’ve been in that boat if I was a high level recruit.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

That sounds painful. I don't think you thought that one through. Though perhaps you did?

Your mom didn't think that one through.

 

[Niastri]

I’m gonna be honest, I never saw the allure some people got from the kids side of it as well. I’ve seen people say time and time again “they’re enjoying the process” but then you also see a lot of “I just want to get it over with”s and I think I would’ve been in that boat if I was a high level recruit.

I always thought going to five different colleges as a high school junior and senior where they throw a big party in your honor would have been great!

Getting dozens of phone calls every day from recruiters not so much...

 

[JackBauer44]

Every day, I visit this board and am extremely grateful that my career never depended on convincing or predicting what 17 year old kids will do.

Low key. It’s stressful. Can’t imagine doing it for a sport like basketball where so much money is on the line. The amount of times I think this exact thought is what sometimes makes me think about a career change.

 

[orangefog]

Low key. It’s stressful. Can’t imagine doing it for a sport like basketball where so much money is on the line. The amount of times I think this exact thought is what sometimes makes me think about a career change.

Maybe try the C.I.A.?

 

[Hopkins16]

Any word on when Ducharme plans to announce? I wonder if we push and get Ducharme's commitment soon, if it will help with landing JP? I assume they are friends as they will be teammates at Brewster Academy.

 

[cuseallday]

No set timetable for Reid, he said today before his senior season starts he plans to commit. From what I've been hearing, he's perhaps seeing if other offers/interest roll in.

 

[DaveT]

I hope he comes to Syracuse. But is it worth the effort to go through all you have to do to get HS kids when we know 2000 names are going into the portal (I bet some of our players)? I think it might be too much effort. This isn't sour grapes it is just reality.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I hope he comes to Syracuse. But is it worth the effort to go through all you have to do to get HS kids when we know 2000 names are going into the portal (I bet some of our players)? I think it might be too much effort. This isn't sour grapes it is just reality.

Yes, absolutely worth it. All of those portal kids start out as a highschool player, and there are more highschool players/wider net to cast on talent. The portal is a nice way to shore up needs on the roster but there's no guarantee you get what you want out of it.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

I hope he comes to Syracuse. But is it worth the effort to go through all you have to do to get HS kids when we know 2000 names are going into the portal (I bet some of our players)? I think it might be too much effort. This isn't sour grapes it is just reality.

It's all about developing relationships. Whether they sign now or as a transfer. Very few kids stay four years at the same school.

 

[Sbucketball]

I hope he comes to Syracuse. But is it worth the effort to go through all you have to do to get HS kids when we know 2000 names are going into the portal (I bet some of our players)? I think it might be too much effort. This isn't sour grapes it is just reality.

Yes. To land elite transfers you must offer guaranteed starting spot and probably bags of cash. It’s easier to recruit depth out of high school than the portal. That’s not reference to JP - I think he will start.

Also most recruits are transfering for a reason, such as not playing enough, which indicates they aren’t perfect. Few true studs transfer because they play a lot or are heading to the NBA. Also miss out on one-and-done types and stud freshmen who will start. Also risky to wait until Spring to fill your roster. The portal needs to be Plan B, and risk mitigation when you lose players. To your point, fewer unranked kids will be offered scholarships because programs won’t be as willing to risk an unknown given the availability of transfers.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I hope he comes to Syracuse. But is it worth the effort to go through all you have to do to get HS kids when we know 2000 names are going into the portal (I bet some of our players)? I think it might be too much effort. This isn't sour grapes it is just reality.

Well, it's the work you put in the first time around it makes it more likely the kid will think of your school if he's dissatisfied with his first choice. (See Cole Swider)

 

[DaveT]

Yes, absolutely worth it. All of those portal kids start out as a highschool player, and there are more highschool players/wider net to cast on talent. The portal is a nice way to shore up needs on the roster but there's no guarantee you get what you want out of it.

There is even less surety that a HS kid will work out. But I understand your point. We are seeing teams build roosters out of the portal.

 

[DaveT]

Yes. To land elite transfers you must offer guaranteed starting spot and probably bags of cash. It’s easier to recruit depth out of high school than the portal. That’s not reference to JP - I think he will start.

Also most recruits are transfering for a reason, such as not playing enough, which indicates they aren’t perfect. Few true studs transfer because they play a lot or are heading to the NBA. Also miss out on one-and-done types and stud freshmen who will start. Also risky to wait until Spring to fill your roster. The portal needs to be Plan B, and risk mitigation when you lose players. To your point, fewer unranked kids will be offered scholarships because programs won’t be as willing to risk an unknown given the availability of transfers.

We are not getting one and done freshman so I think your point is a little weak. No one is a sure thing. Put A LOT of effort into HS recruiting.