Class of 2025 - PG Luke Fennell (Australia) COMMITTED & SIGNED TO SYRACUSE (10/23/24) | Page 9 | Syracusefan.com

Class of 2025 PG Luke Fennell (Australia) COMMITTED & SIGNED TO SYRACUSE (10/23/24)

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cuseallday said:
I know that recruiting rankings are subjective, but I'll never for the life of me understand such big disparities like this: No. 16 versus No. 57 - that's a big difference.
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Honestly i'm kind of boggled by how often these services are wrong without people starting to take them less seriously
 
UpstateSM said:
www.on3.com

Luke Fennell - Syracuse Orange - Point Guard

Explore Luke Fennell's athlete profile at On3.com. Get news and insights into his playing career, statistics, and achievements in sports.
www.on3.com www.on3.com

3* 88 27th PG and no national ranking per on3. Presented without comment so don't yell at me.
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bnoro said:
When you realize they exist solely to sell subscriptions and sow discourse for clicks on the internet, it makes a lot more sense.
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Based and subscriber-model pilled
 
AngryOtto said:
How is white the 15 best player in the class and only a four star? To answer my own question the recruiting services are a joke.
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It appears it’s because he’s the 26th best player
 
Cuse181 said:
It appears it’s because he’s the 26th best player
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That just highlights the same issue: How is the 26th player in the country a 4 star and the 124th player in the country also a 4 star? That is a wide gap. How many stars is the 125th player? Seems to me, the top 100 players are 4 and 5 stars, with the super elite being 5 stars. There is no scientific formula here...bottom line is that it is all arbitrary anyway!
 
Dr. Bill said:
That just highlights the same issue: How is the 26th player in the country a 4 star and the 124th player in the country also a 4 star? That is a wide gap. How many stars is the 125th player? Seems to me, the top 100 players are 4 and 5 stars, with the super elite being 5 stars. There is no scientific formula here...bottom line is that it is all arbitrary anyway!
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In answer to your question, this rating service calls any player in the top25 a 5 star, 26-150 4 stars, below that 3 stars and after that, who cares anymore. :)

Other services have variable amounts of 5 stars and 4 stars based on their overall rating.

It isn't completely arbitrary, but you are correct, it needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

Fennell, for instance, hasn't really been seen by the recruiting services. They are rating him off highlights. His ranking is going to have a ton of variance. I consider him being ranked at all at least partially a bid to Red's recruiting and scouting acumen.

On the other hand, White has been seen at length by every service, and his consensus RSCI ranking is 20th (as of August). You can be pretty sure, but not completely sure, that he's going to be better than a guy ranked 150th.

Every scout makes mistakes, though. Every year, even in the NBA, somebody is drafted way lower than their actual production, and high draft picks bust. Michael Jordan was drafted 3rd, after all.

Scouting recruits is art and science. Inexact.

But on average, if you recruit all top 50 players and the other team had only players outside the top100, you are going to be better almost every time.
 
Dr. Bill said:
That just highlights the same issue: How is the 26th player in the country a 4 star and the 124th player in the country also a 4 star? That is a wide gap. How many stars is the 125th player? Seems to me, the top 100 players are 4 and 5 stars, with the super elite being 5 stars. There is no scientific formula here...bottom line is that it is all arbitrary anyway!
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247 Sports, ESPN, On3, and Rivals are the 4 major recruiting services, and each has a vested interest to keep readers visiting (and subscribing). So they juggle their rankings every now and then. It's not that different from Joe Lunardi updating Bracketology when it was still the preseason. It's very arbitrary, especially for overseas prospects.

On3 does pay attention to the other services in order to designate the players who are unanimously rated with 5 stars. They are called Five Star Plus players, kind of an Orwellian name, and this recruiting class has 9 of them: the top 8 and #10 Isiah Harwell.

To stay on topic, here are Luke Fennell's rankings, as of today.

247 Sports: #124
ESPN: not ranked in top 100
On3: not ranked in top 150
Rivals: not ranked in top 150

Whatever. This is why I use RSCI, which averages the 4 recruiting services into a Top 100 ranking per class that is released in the late summer and updated only once, by the following spring. (Basically, before and after the seniors' high school basketball season.) Fennell isn't ranked by RSCI because he wasn't on the radar back in August -- and still isn't by 3 of 4 services, apparently -- but maybe he's ranked next time.

Edited to add: I don't know why the Rivals link won't show up. I even tried cutting and pasting the link below, but the board takes off the "rivals" from the URL for some reason.
 
UpstateSM said:
www.on3.com

Luke Fennell - Syracuse Orange - Point Guard

Explore Luke Fennell's athlete profile at On3.com. Get news and insights into his playing career, statistics, and achievements in sports.
www.on3.com www.on3.com

3* 88 27th PG and no national ranking per on3. Presented without comment so don't yell at me.
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They haven't seen him play so they are making something up?

These sites aren't major news corporations where they have correspondents on the ground in 24 hours after a story.

They probably haven't seen him play, yet somehow think he's an 88?
 
It doesn't matter, as long as they come to SU and show out. Less recognition and less pressure might lead to motivation to prove how good they are. Look at Choppa - he looks like a player who should have been ranked, perhaps 50 to 100 and was nowhere in sight on the various rankings.
 
Hopkins16 said:
It doesn't matter, as long as they come to SU and show out. Less recognition and less pressure might lead to motivation to prove how good they are. Look at Choppa - he looks like a player who should have been ranked, perhaps 50 to 100 and was nowhere in sight on the various rankings.
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Moore was 77 on his class's final RSCI.

He is far from an unknown recruit.
 
IthacaMatt said:
Chris Mullen, anyone?
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He does a lot of things well in this tape. Plays with good pace. Head is always up. Can drive left or right. When he ball fakes he usually goes left. Quick hands and he does slide his feet on defense. Good size with a great shooting touch. He shoot’s a soft shot. Not mechanical at all. We have some shooters coming into the program along with Choppa. If Bell comes back next year that team will really shoot it.
 
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