Class of 2022 - PG Quadir Copeland (PA/IMG) COMMITTED/SIGNED TO SYRACUSE | Page 17 | Syracusefan.com
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Class of 2022 PG Quadir Copeland (PA/IMG) COMMITTED/SIGNED TO SYRACUSE

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Capt. Tuttle said:
Whether the team missed him and whether he was a better player than Buddy are different arguments. Having to bring up the later as reasoning weakens the former.
Different players,
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Okay, so we are clear, I would take Buddy on my team every day over Devo. and that really isn't a knock against Devo. And whether a team misses a guy does indicate how good he is and how much he helps you win. At least in my book. The object is to win and make the team better.
 
orangepassion said:
I prefer consistently good over occasionally great. Buddy also had maybe the greenest light I've ever seen
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you are entitled to your opinion. But in fairness, do you ever remember JB saying anything to Devo about shooting too much or taking a bad shot? Jb let's shooters shoot. Maybe too much. That is for a different discussion.
 
Trueblue25 said:
I had a feeling.

While Lands and Westry are my favorite players in the class (that we’re actively involved with), I’d be very very happy with Copeland. Im not sure Westry committing would impact him either, though they’re both 1’s
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I could see Copeland PG, Chance as Combo and Lands as SF. We have room for 2 guards out of these 3, if we are lucky.
 
IthacaMatt said:
He's got some Pearl in him. If we get him, I hope he doesn't drive JB crazy with some of those passes.
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If he comes he'll be a combination of a poor man's Pearl Washington...and Scoop Jardine.
Note: I was a big Scoop fan, but he would just as likely have you cheering him on one play, and cursing him out on another.
 
nyucuse said:
Sounds to me like the coaches are pushing for a Westry decision. The timing of this announcement, during Westry's visit, seems to indicate that. Assuming they take only one of the three guards they are looking at, if Westry is not willing to commit now, they want to push for QC/JJ. Puts some pressure on Westry, and also let's QC know where they stand. The next few weeks should be interesting.
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I’m not sure why we’d only take 1 of the guards. I think they’d like to get 2 of Westry, Copeland and JJ.
 
Taylor is option #1 and then anyone of Starling, Westry and Copeland. I’d be shocked if two of the last three would come, unless Taylor goes elsewhere.
 
hoopsupstate said:
Taylor is option #1 and then anyone of Starling, Westry and Copeland. I’d be shocked if two of the last three would come, unless Taylor goes elsewhere.
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I don’t think Taylor is #1 over Westry cause they most likely will not be playing the same position. Taylor won’t be playing PG, Westry or Copeland would be, so not sure how Taylor’s decision effects those guys.

If we are saying Taylor will be playing the 2 then I still think Starling is above him as to me he’s the better player but I’m not the staff.
 
kjb120 said:
I don’t think Taylor is #1 over Westry cause they most likely will not be playing the same position. Taylor won’t be playing PG, Westry or Copeland would be, so not sure how Taylor’s decision effects those guys.

If we are saying Taylor will be playing the 2 then I still think Starling is above him as to me he’s the better player but I’m not the staff.
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If Taylor wanted to commit today we would take him. He’s Buddy’s replacement. The other guys are being targeted to play PG.
 
kjb120 said:
I don’t think Taylor is #1 over Westry cause they most likely will not be playing the same position. Taylor won’t be playing PG, Westry or Copeland would be, so not sure how Taylor’s decision effects those guys.

If we are saying Taylor will be playing the 2 then I still think Starling is above him as to me he’s the better player but I’m not the staff.
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no not all lol. Taylor is a 2/3, Chance is a combo, and Starling and Quadir are more like pgs than anything else. If any 3 of those guys commit I don't think it affects any of the others decisions. And Chance and Justin are our #1 targets at both those positions. If anything the guy that most affects Justin's decision is Kamari because he's just a bigger version of Justin in my opinion
 
Cuse Countr said:
no not all lol. Taylor is a 2/3, Chance is a combo, and Starling and Quadir are more like pgs than anything else. If any 3 of those guys commit I don't think it affects any of the others decisions. And Chance and Justin are our #1 targets at both those positions. If anything the guy that most affects Justin's decision is Kamari because he's just a bigger version of Justin in my opinion
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I don't think that's an accurate breakdown. Chance is viewed as a 1, so is Copeland. JJ is viewed by the coaches as a 2 in our system, who could potentially morph into a combo / point down the road.
 
dasher said:
Okay, so we are clear, I would take Buddy on my team every day over Devo. and that really isn't a knock against Devo. And whether a team misses a guy does indicate how good he is and how much he helps you win. At least in my book. The object is to win and make the team better.
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So, the measure of a player is whether a team can win A game without him. That means Matt Cassell is at least as good as Tom Brady and Jeff Hostetler is as good as Phil Simms.
IthacaMatt said:
He's got some Pearl in him. If we get him, I hope he doesn't drive JB crazy with some of those passes.
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Those games are much less structured and important and seen as fun. I have no worries about it.
 
Capt. Tuttle said:
So, the measure of a player is whether a team can win A game without him. That means Matt Cassell is at least as good as Tom Brady and Jeff Hostetler is as good as Phil Simms.

Those games are much less structured and important and seen as fun. I have no worries about it.
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Yeah, that is what it means. SMH What is your answer for 2010? And just for your knowledge, the Pats didn't win with Cassell like they did with Brady. And I'm not sure the Giants win against the 49 ers with Simm's. You take Devo and I'll take Buddy.
 
Capt. Tuttle said:
So, the measure of a player is whether a team can win A game without him. That means Matt Cassell is at least as good as Tom Brady and Jeff Hostetler is as good as Phil Simms.

Those games are much less structured and important and seen as fun. I have no worries about it.
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Dasher is right. Devo never had a season as good as Buddy last year. Offensively his season last year stacks up with any recent player besides maybe Hughes.
 
Cusefan0307 said:
Dasher is right. Devo never had a season as good as Buddy last year. Offensively his season last year stacks up with any recent player besides maybe Hughes.
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So the measure is a half a season, not a career. Devo was far better at getting to the rim, getting to the line, and dribbling, just to name a few important parts of the game.
Now, if you want to argue that off the court issues detracted from Devo's value to the team, I am not an insider, so I do not know about that.
Also, I suspect, but do not know, that Buddy is a leader who commands respect within the team given how hard he works and how he has handled his burdens, which no player at SU has ever had.
I think Buddy is great, at what he does, and I hope he continues his improvement. He is a right type of player at the right time in the right system with the right coach. He could be huge this year, and will create a lot of chances for others just by being on the court.
 
That’s a long guard.

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Capt. Tuttle said:
So the measure is a half a season, not a career. Devo was far better at getting to the rim, getting to the line, and dribbling, just to name a few important parts of the game.
Now, if you want to argue that off the court issues detracted from Devo's value to the team, I am not an insider, so I do not know about that.
Also, I suspect, but do not know, that Buddy is a leader who commands respect within the team given how hard he works and how he has handled his burdens, which no player at SU has ever had.
I think Buddy is great, at what he does, and I hope he continues his improvement. He is a right type of player at the right time in the right system with the right coach. He could be huge this year, and will create a lot of chances for others just by being on the court.
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Hard to compare the 2. Both excellent players. If they played
1 on 1 Devo wins 8 out of 10.
 
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