Class of 2025 PG Tyler Jackson (MD) Offered

[Nicknack]

We may or may not take a filler on Jackson but if we miss on Lewis, we'll land a big time portal pg. We have the slot open for PT.

I hope you're right but after watching us not able to get an elite PG in the portal earlier, I'm not that confident. This is no way intended on a slight to Carlos, but he wasn't exactly the big time transfer at PG we were hoping we'd get.

 

[Orangezoo]

I hope you're right but after watching us not able to get an elite PG in the portal earlier, I'm not that confident. This is no way intended on a slight to Carlos, but he wasn't exactly the big time transfer at PG we were hoping we'd get.

And NIL is improved vs what it was going into this past off season.

Only a handful of top 25 teams from last year handed the reigns over to a freshman and even those that did had upperclassmen next to them or sharing minutes ( quite a few that came from portal) with them. Even an elite freshman PG, of which there are few, is hardly a sure thing to lean on these days.

PG and C cost a lot in the portal for the exact reasons above.

 

[Niastri]

Speaking of Tyler Jackson and his drop. He was an early performer, coming in and playing well as a skinny freshman against older, bigger players. The assumption was that he would grow a bit, fill out his body, and get better.

He hasn't grown, he's still skinnier than anybody else on the court, and hasn't gotten much better.

Other guys have passed him, but he is still young and electric with the ball. The way he moves around the court reminds me of some great players it would be sacrilege to mention next to Jackson's name.

I like raw players with elite skills, they can develop the rest of the game to go with it. Even if Jackson doesn't get any taller (he's still young) he can put on good weight like Mintz did before his second year.

I think Jackson is a take, as long as we don't think he'll affect the recruitment of other players we want more.

The entire team needs to be rebuilt each season anyway. It's likely all our ball handlers are gone next year. Lampkin, Carlos, Taylor, McLeod and Davis are all gone next year. Starling, Bell, and Freeman are also likely to leave.

Or returning guards are Cuffe and Moore, maybe Westry.

Even if we get Lewis and a transfer PG, there still is room for Jackson, as long as he understands he probably won't play much his first year, unless he really earns it.

 

[Nicknack]

And NIL is improved vs what it was going into this past off season.

Only a handful of top 25 teams from last year handed the reigns over to a freshman and even those that did had upperclassmen next to them or sharing minutes ( quite a few that came from portal) with them. Even an elite freshman PG, of which there are few, is hardly a sure thing to lean on these days.

PG and C cost a lot in the portal for the exact reasons above.

We missed big time on getting the kind of PG we were expecting to get (this past off season). If that's just about NIL and now we have more, cool. I'm good with that. It just seemed odd how we couldn't reel anyone in who was even at a mid to high level. Also, don't get me wrong... I REALLY like what Red is doing and the effort he and staff are putting in with recruiting. I'm not sure Adrian is the answer, but it certainly appears as a program we're heading in the right direction versus what we saw the last few years under Jim's leadership.

 

[suclass2014]

anyone hear anything lately?

 

[Actionthrill]

Does the recent losses of Lewis and Tillery mean that Jackson is the PG we will be going after or will we not go after a PG at all and look to the portal?

 

[SUOrangeSU]

Does the recent losses of Lewis and Tillery mean that Jackson is the PG we will be going after or will we not go after a PG at all and look to the portal?

Both can be true. Nab Jackson, portal starting pg

 

[CuseEagle8]

I don’t follow recruiting threads too closely anymore cuz I get excited about the possibility and then disappointed when they don’t commit. When Jackson was first mentioned in this site, he was said to be the #9 recruit in the class and recently received offers from Kansas and unc. I get that things change over time but now all of the sudden he’s our 4th? option and it seems the consensus on this board is we can take him or leave him? I say just take him if he wants to be here.

 

[tee1222]

I don’t follow recruiting threads too closely anymore cuz I get excited about the possibility and then disappointed when they don’t commit. When Jackson was first mentioned in this site, he was said to be the #9 recruit in the class and recently received offers from Kansas and unc. I get that things change over time but now all of the sudden he’s our 4th? option and it seems the consensus on this board is we can take him or leave him? I say just take him if he wants to be here.

I'm with you. Grab this talented player!

 

[gmacfor3]

I'm with you. Grab this talented player!

I can’t say I’m necessarily against grabbing a talented player like Jackson, and I have no inside info as to whether he has a committable offer or not. However, I do know that they are now using analytics to drive a lot of their decision making when it comes to recruiting, and therefore aren’t going to be recruiting on talent alone.

 

[jordville]

 

[RyanCuse44]

 

[TommyA13]

If Kiyan ends up committing tomorrow night Syracuse tomorrow, does Tyler Jackson’s recruitment start to pick up a little bit? And would Syracuse be back in it?

 

[SanDiegoCuse]

If Kiyan ends up committing tomorrow night Syracuse tomorrow, does Tyler Jackson’s recruitment start to pick up a little bit? And would Syracuse be back in it?

Seems like Tyler wanted Syracuse more than vice versa.

 

[Cusefan0307]

If Kiyan ends up committing tomorrow night Syracuse tomorrow, does Tyler Jackson’s recruitment start to pick up a little bit? And would Syracuse be back in it?

Not with the Aussie in the fold.

 

[grepal]

Not with the Aussie in the fold.

With the portal and who knows leaving what is the case against him?

 

[richmondcuse03]

Seems like Tyler wanted Syracuse more than vice versa.

Correct. Tyler would have committed early this year if we would have taken it.

 

[RF2044]

If Kiyan ends up committing tomorrow night Syracuse tomorrow, does Tyler Jackson’s recruitment start to pick up a little bit? And would Syracuse be back in it?

Hopefully not.

He's not that good

 

[Scott11]

If Kiyan ends up committing tomorrow night Syracuse tomorrow, does Tyler Jackson’s recruitment start to pick up a little bit? And would Syracuse be back in it?

We aren’t interested. His stock really took a nosedive.

 

[Hopkins16]

He's one of those quick athletic guys who is a poor decision maker and lacks all of the key ingredients to be a legitimate point guard, and he is too small and lack a consistent jumper to be a shooting guard.

He hasn't shown improvement as a pg, so as Scott11 said, his stock took a nosedive.

 

[Niastri]

He's one of those quick athletic guys who is a poor decision maker and lacks all of the key ingredients to be a legitimate point guard, and he is too small and lack a consistent jumper to be a shooting guard.

He hasn't shown improvement as a pg, so as Scott11 said, his stock took a nosedive.

Tyler Jackson was six feet tall and 150 lbs at 15, and playing really well for a freshman against older players.

His early high ranking extrapolated additional physical growth and development that normally comes with experience.

Unfortunately, he looks exactly the same now as he did as a freshman, both physically and in basketball skills. Many other guys did have the growth spurt and development in their game. So he got passed by a lot of players in the rankings.

I still think he would be a take, but he might still think of himself as the headliner of a top recruiting class. He isn't that guy, so coaches may not want that dichotomy of attitude and talent (not to mention NIL requests).

Red and co, for whatever reason, have apparently gone a different way.

 

[orangefog]

His nickname is Hype, right?

 

[RF2044]

Tyler Jackson was six feet tall and 150 lbs at 15, and playing really well for a freshman against older players.

His early high ranking extrapolated additional physical growth and development that normally comes with experience.

Unfortunately, he looks exactly the same now as he did as a freshman, both physically and in basketball skills. Many other guys did have the growth spurt and development in their game. So he got passed by a lot of players in the rankings.

I still think he would be a take, but he might still think of himself as the headliner of a top recruiting class. He isn't that guy, so coaches may not want that dichotomy of attitude and talent (not to mention NIL requests).

Red and co, for whatever reason, have apparently gone a different way.

There's a lot of validity to your post. Some kids peak earlier than others, but stagnate for any of a variety of reasons [skill development doesn't match early projections kid's don't "grow" to the expected height, some kids are more physically dominant at a younger age but tail off when others catch up, etc.].

Dior Johnson is a perfect example -- projected top 10 early, but didn't develop as expected and had a billion personal issues off the court that turned him into a hot potato.

But the one area I'll disagree with is that Jackson would still be a "take." If he was a "take," we would have already taken him. BUT we need a point guard, and Jackson ain't one. And we already landed a better prospect in Fennel, who projects to the 1.

I know that sometimes the forum gets hung up on names that people recognize, and we've been linked to Jackson a long time -- so it's understandable that some posters want to see us land him. But another way to view this is that Jackson is essentially a 6-1 155 shooting guard, with a subpar handle and negligible playmaking skills. We have a similar player on the current roster -- Kyle Cuffe, who actually has a BETTER handle than Jackson. Cuffe is glued to the bench; he has some skill, but his size / inability to spell the point guard position due to limited playmaking aptitude makes it difficult to find him PT.

Jackson is like a poor man's Cuffe. So...

 

[Niastri]

I haven't seen Tyler Jackson play much, but my personal thoughts about him are kind of indecisive.

He has a loose handle at times, but nobody can stay in front of him. He's too slight of build, but has long arms and can be disruptive. He didn't seem like a pure shooter, but makes enough where you have to play up on him and then he gets you slip sliding with his dribbling skills.

He's a weird player. I feel like he has the elite ability to disrupt defenses off the dribble. Watching his highlights is really fun, not many guys move with the ball like that.

And despite of all the hand wringing about his "decline" in the rankings, he is still ranked 52 in the latest RSCI (up 4 slots apparently).

Is Syracuse a program that can afford to turn down a top 60 talent that really wants to play here? Hence, my opinion that he's a "take" provided the price is right and his attitude is on point.

I only know the first point, my perception (and the recruiting services) of his basketball talent. Red might have a very different conclusion about Jackson's talent.

That, or the other two reasons (money and attitude) seem to have Red slamming the door in his face, so my opinion is irrelevant.

 

[BillSU]

UMMM... He's a take, if we get the opportunity to recruit him well.