Class of 2025 PG Tyler Jackson (MD) Offered

[cardiac]

Okay. More years of shooting PG’s.
Recruited by an all new staff.

As a backup option with the portal to choose from... They just got a pass first pg for the first time in 10 years.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Okay. More years of shooting PG’s.
Recruited by an all new staff.

Jackson is not going to be the point guard. If he was he already would be committed.

 

[RF2044]

Jackson is not going to be the point guard. If he was he already would be committed.

Quit being a self-appointed recruiting expert!

But for the record, you are 100% correct. Jackson is an attainable Plan B. He's Red's backup plan. If Red believed Jackson was more than a fall back option, then Red would have already signed Jackson.

 

[Cappy3]

Quit being a self-appointed recruiting expert!

But for the record, you are 100% correct.

So, in your opinion, he’s being recruited as what, a 3rd string 2 guard behind Moore and Anthony? Yeah, that seems logical.

 

[Cusefan0307]

So, in your opinion, he’s being recruited as what, a 3rd string 2 guard behind Moore and Anthony? Yeah, that seems logical.

He’s plan C at best. He will not be the starting PG in 25. Red is not committing to that. The fans in this thread think we are recruiting him harder than we are. We’ve backed off a bit.

 

[RF2044]

So, in your opinion, he’s being recruited as what, a 3rd string 2 guard behind Moore and Anthony? Yeah, that seems logical.

Actually, I think he's being recruited as the 4th string guard behind Moore, Anthony, and Cuffe.

What I know from watching quite a bit of this kid's film is that he isn't a natural lead guard. He's also short and sleight of build. On the positive side, he's quick, he's a scorer, and he excels at driving because he has a great first step -- but he is NOT a natural play maker, he's got a minus handle, and he doesn't show the lead guard aptitude needed to be a point guard in the ACC.

We need backcourt players -- ergo, we are pursuing them. But the fact that the coaching staff has prioritized other players is less about Jackson not having upside, and more about him not being the best point guard option. Which he isn't.

We could do worse, but the reality is that Jackson is more of an undersized shooting guard than he is a point guard. We already have a guy like that in Cuffe.

 

[Cappy3]

It just astounds me that some of the “experts” on here think they have a better read on recruits from watching a few internet clips than the coaches do, who’ve seen guys play in summer camps, high school games and summer ball. I don’t know why teams bother scouting guys in person when all they need to know they can get on the internet.

 

[Cusefan0307]

It just astounds me that some of the “experts” on here think they have a better read on recruits from watching a few internet clips than the coaches do, who’ve seen guys play in summer camps, high school games and summer ball. I don’t know why teams bother scouting guys in person when all they need to know they can get on the internet.

Red has a good read on Jackson. Good enough that he will not be our pg next year.

 

[RF2044]

It just astounds me that some of the “experts” on here think they have a better read on recruits from watching a few internet clips than the coaches do, who’ve seen guys play in summer camps, high school games and summer ball. I don’t know why teams bother scouting guys in person when all they need to know they can get on the internet.

It just astounds me that you haven't formulated the same opinion as others, when Jackson's capabilities and limitations are straightforward and easy to evaluate.

But if you want to die on the blind faith hill, be my guest.

 

[littlereg]

It just astounds me that some of the “experts” on here think they have a better read on recruits from watching a few internet clips than the coaches do, who’ve seen guys play in summer camps, high school games and summer ball. I don’t know why teams bother scouting guys in person when all they need to know they can get on the internet.

I haven’t smoked yet this morning and I’m glad I didn’t cus I need the stuff you’re hittin

 

[nyucuse]

Jackson is not going to be the point guard. If he was he already would be committed.

Speculation or direct knowledge?

 

[atlanticuse]

In a new era of NIL, can we afford 3rd and 4th options?

 

[UpstateSM]

We’ve got an awful lot of guys here who are better talent evaluators than the coaches are. Surprised more of you haven’t been scooped up by some programs.

What exactly is the point of a fan message board in your mind?

 

[Cusefan0307]

Speculation or direct knowledge?

It’s not speculation. We will get Lewis or someone else that is not Tyler Jackson either in this class or the portal.

 

[Cappy3]

What exactly is the point of a fan message board in your mind?

Opinions fine. But opinions masquerading as certainty not so much.

 

[Cappy3]

It just astounds me that you haven't formulated the same opinion as others, when Jackson's capabilities and limitations are straightforward and easy to evaluate.

But if you want to die on the blind faith hill, be my guest.

Fwiw Rivals, 247 and ESPN all list him as a point guard. But they obviously don’t know anything either. Actually, he’s more a lead guard than a true point. But then so are Mintz and Starling, so Red apparently doesn’t mind. I’d like to see us sign Lewis, but given his list of schools that seems unlikely. If we don’t the I believe Jackson will be signed as a lead guard. I don’t expect him to start next year. We should look at the portal for an experienced lead/point. But we should do that even if we somehow sign Lewis.

Lastly, reading interviews with him and Anthony it seems clear they both expect Jackson to play lead guard in college. Now I’m done with this rather senseless argument.

 

[jdubs30]

Fwiw Rivals, 247 and ESPN all list him as a point guard. But they obviously don’t know anything either. Actually, he’s more a lead guard than a true point. But then so are Mintz and Starling, so Red apparently doesn’t mind. I’d like to see us sign Lewis, but given his list of schools that seems unlikely. If we don’t the I believe Jackson will be signed as a lead guard. I don’t expect him to start next year. We should look at the portal for an experienced lead/point. But we should do that even if we somehow sign Lewis.

Lastly, reading interviews with him and Anthony it seems clear they both expect Jackson to play lead guard in college. Now I’m done with this rather senseless argument.

Pretty bold to assume what type of “lead guard” Red wants. I don’t think he’s Ok with how the point guard play has been lately - he inherited Judah and JJ basically fell into his lap.

Let Red recruit first - let’s see what kind of PG he signs

 

[RF2044]

Fwiw Rivals, 247 and ESPN all list him as a point guard. But they obviously don’t know anything either. Actually, he’s more a lead guard than a true point. But then so are Mintz and Starling, so Red apparently doesn’t mind. I’d like to see us sign Lewis, but given his list of schools that seems unlikely. If we don’t the I believe Jackson will be signed as a lead guard. I don’t expect him to start next year. We should look at the portal for an experienced lead/point. But we should do that even if we somehow sign Lewis.

Lastly, reading interviews with him and Anthony it seems clear they both expect Jackson to play lead guard in college. Now I’m done with this rather senseless argument.

The one and only thing in your post that is accurate is that you're making a senseless argument. He's 6-0 155 pounds -- what do you EXPECT Rivals, 247 and others to list him as? What does that prove? What does a rivals profile listing him at a certain position have to do with whether or not he is a P5 caliber point guard? And its comical that you complain ad nauseum about some posters -- and several who have years-long proven track records as being people to pay attention to -- assessing Jackson's strengths / limitations, but point to Rivals as a definitive source of truth. Too funny.

Second, your bizarre defense of Jackson overlooks that Red hasn't prioritized him for the point guard vacancy that the staff would like to fill in the class of 2025. If they indicated to Jackson that they were ready to take his commitment today, he would commit today. But they haven't -- because as good as he is, he is missing several key attributes needed for the position. Just like Mike Edwards, Josh Wright, Jalen Carey, etc. lacked some of those same attributes, and all struggled here because of it.

Anthony is a much higher profile recruit, playing on an AAU team sponsored by his father. Accordingly, the offense is often structured around him, and the ball is in his hands late in games. So by default, Jackson plays the "other" backcourt spot. That doesn't make him a P5 caliber point guard.

 

[Sherman20]

Doubtful. Red has paid little attention to him. Gmac recruited him and Engelstad assumed the relationship when he replaced him. We probably could have had him had Red went hard for him starting in the spring.

Or maybe Tillery isn’t that interested in Cuse, and Red didn’t want to waste the staff’s time. That would be my guess. We don’t always know what’s going on in some of these situations.

 

[Melancer46]

I won’t pretend to have watched much of Jackson but a couple thoughts from the bits I have seen/the numbers I’ve seen:

• Given his build, probably more likely you’re hoping he follows the Rob Dillingham development path vs. someone like Mintz. He has to be reliant on his jumper with how small he is.
• To that end, he seems like a much more willing 3 point shooter than most of the guys he’s being compared to here. Shot a very nice 39% from 3 in OTE last year as well as 80% on free throws (though looks like his %’s historically have been more mixed).
• Feels like historically, he’s the kinda kid we’d hope to have on a multi-year plan to see if you can develop his handle enough to take advantage of his athletic gifts but in today’s era of transfers, anyone that does that is likely just training them for their next college.

 

[RyanCuse44]

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Why do I feel like we are going to slow play ourselves out of a PG this year?

 

[cusefan88]

Why do I feel like we are going to slow play ourselves out of a PG this year?

If HS route doesn't work there is the portal. From hearing the new GM speak, they will have a list of players they've watched and analyzed ready to go should said players transfer.

 

[Niastri]

If HS route doesn't work there is the portal. From hearing the new GM speak, they will have a list of players they've watched and analyzed ready to go should said players transfer.

I think Tutt meant we would miss on our primary PG targets. Meanwhile, Jackson will go somewhere else and we essentially whiff on the whole class by not taking a top50 guard today wanted to commit because we have reservations about his play.

We have seen this happen a couple times, not taking the bird in the hand and being screwed by our primary target.

The portal is always there, but high school is still usually where the top end talent resides.

I'm worried about the apparent decision to slow play Jackson while our primary targets slow dance with perennial basketball powers.

 

[RF2044]

Why do I feel like we are going to slow play ourselves out of a PG this year?

We might slow roll ourselves out of having to settle for a lesser option.

But that's what you risk when you push all chips in to go after one prospect. Hope it works out. If it doesn't, I'll lament other players being slow rolled [i.e., Tillery] more than Jackson, if it works out that way.