Class of 2016 PG Tyus Battle (NJ) Signed LOI

[DocFlanders]

IMO
Parents want SU + Kid doesn't love SU =
Long wait.

As much as I want Battle in the fold, if the kid doesn't really want to be here, then it would not be a good thing for either party in this for him to come here. That being said, I hope he wants to come here and makes the decision to do that very thing.

 

[Cuse_1999]

IMO
Parents want SU + Kid doesn't love SU =
Long wait.

This is how I feel as well. Have seen this play out a thousand times in football recruiting. Kid wants one school, parents want a different school and they usually end up compromising on some other school (Duke in this case)

 

[007]

Some of you guys aren't paying attention...

 

[Nicknack]

This is how I feel as well. Have seen this play out a thousand times in football recruiting. Kid wants one school, parents want a different school and they usually end up compromising on some other school (Duke in this case)

May be true but I don't see how Duke would be a compromise. His parents wouldn't exactly gain anything from this as I see it.

 

[skurey]

Yeah I'm not saying that guy is right or anything as he clearly seems like an idiot. I just don't like how the insiders are treated as gods when often they aren't really sure of what is going to happen. Yes info can change in a second but when you claim you're hearing one thing and another thing happens, what was the point really? Just leads to pointless speculation.

 

[Nicknack]

Yeah I'm not saying that guy is right or anything as he clearly seems like an idiot. I just don't like how the insiders are treated as gods when often they aren't really sure of what is going to happen. Yes info can change in a second but when you claim you're hearing one thing and another thing happens, what was the point really? Just leads to pointless speculation.

Then just ignore it. I for one VERY much appreciate those who have inside knowledge sharing that knowledge with us. I also understand that things often change and what was said to be true today may not be tomorrow. It's really not rock science.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Yeah I'm not saying that guy is right or anything as he clearly seems like an idiot. I just don't like how the insiders are treated as gods when often they aren't really sure of what is going to happen. Yes info can change in a second but when you claim you're hearing one thing and another thing happens, what was the point really? Just leads to pointless speculation.

The insiders know a lot more than Mike Ortiz, syracuse.com, and nunes magician for the matter. Good luck getting any good information when you make posts like this.

 

[Whitey23]

John Beilein continues to reevaluate his recruiting policies amid changing landscape

Now U-M is likely to focus on 2016 four-star shooting guard Kevin Huerter, a top-100 prospect. The Clifton Park, New York, native holds scholarship offers from Villanova, Maryland and Indiana, among others, and has reportedly scheduled unofficial visits to Villanova, Indiana, Syracuse, Notre Dame, Michigan, Maryland, Creighton and Miami.

Additionally, Michigan is still in the rat race to land 2016 point guard Cassius Winston from Detroit U-D Jesuit. He's believed to still be the No. 1 priority. Commitments are currently held from 2016 centers Austin Davis (Onsted, Michigan) and Jon Teske (Medina, Ohio).

 

[jordoo]

John Beilein continues to reevaluate his recruiting policies amid changing landscape

Sure doesn't sound like he thinks they have any chance with Battle. Thats pretty standard once a kid decommits though.

 

[Brooky03]

If your assessment is accurate it sounds exactly like the Bryant situation. Begs the question then - why aren't these kids wanting to come here ?????

Cuz they stupid

 

[jekelish]

Just leads to pointless speculation.

Hi, I'd like to welcome you to the internet.

 

[sususpicious]

Hi, I'd like to welcome you to the internet.

Indeed!

 

[tee1222]

I am blinded by this thread. Might not hear so well too! Memory fading, slightly....what's your name again?

 

[pfister1]

Not at all.

If I was Battle, I would be reluctant to accept a scholarship offer for 2016-17 when one, as it stands right now, does not exist.

Yeah, it's very likely that some combination of appeal win, or transfer, or early departure happens, but it's not a lock...unless we force someone out. And if we have to, then fine.

There are 10 scholarships available for 2016-17. Scholarships are still awarded on a year-to-year basis.

Not saying this is how it will go down, but if no other scholarship frees up, then maybe you tell Chino that he needs to consider other options. I don't really have a problem with this. He will have gotten three years of his education paid for by SU with the expectation that he come in and perform on the court. If he hasn't raised his level of play before this senior year to the point where the staff sees him as a clear asset to the program coming into his senior year, why should you feel an obligation to give him another year of scholarship at the expense of someone else that can help the team? Projects that are freshman or sophomores are one thing. Seniors that are projects don't add value, except maybe in trying to bolster APR scores.

He could go elsewhere to finish up, or he could give up basketball and do what every other kid does... become a regular student and pay his own way. If he's not going to help the team enough in this senior season to be a lock for a scholarship, then he isn't going to have a pro career, here or over seas. If he isn't going to have a pro career, than his focus should be on getting his degree and he will have had three years of that education paid for by the basketball program. There would also be nothing stopping JB from cutting him loose from the program, but having him put on another form of scholarship so that he has the opportunity to finish his degree. I don't think any player is owed one of the limited scholarship roster spots on the team, they have to earn those.

 

[HOFCeluck]

There are 10 scholarships available for 2016-17. Scholarships are still awarded on a year-to-year basis.

Not saying this is how it will go down, but if no other scholarship frees up, then maybe you tell Chino that he needs to consider other options. I don't really have a problem with this. He will have gotten three years of his education paid for by SU with the expectation that he come in and perform on the court. If he hasn't raised his level of play before this senior year to the point where the staff sees him as a clear asset to the program coming into his senior year, why should you feel an obligation to give him another year of scholarship at the expense of someone else that can help the team? Projects that are freshman or sophomores are one thing. Seniors that are projects don't add value, except maybe in trying to bolster APR scores.

He could go elsewhere to finish up, or he could give up basketball and do what every other kid does... become a regular student and pay his own way. If he's not going to help the team enough in this senior season to be a lock for a scholarship, then he isn't going to have a pro career, here or over seas. If he isn't going to have a pro career, than his focus should be on getting his degree and he will have had three years of that education paid for by the basketball program. There would also be nothing stopping JB from cutting him loose from the program, but having him put on another form of scholarship so that he has the opportunity to finish his degree. I don't think any player is owed one of the limited scholarship roster spots on the team, they have to earn those.

Yeah I understand that we're likely going to "convince" a guy to leave for his own good if he wants to continue playing basketball.

It's on me as I didn't recall us offering a scholarship where one wasn't currently available (now that I think about I'm pretty sue we did the same with Bryant.)

 

[HOFCeluck]

Yeah I'm not saying that guy is right or anything as he clearly seems like an idiot. I just don't like how the insiders are treated as gods when often they aren't really sure of what is going to happen. Yes info can change in a second but when you claim you're hearing one thing and another thing happens, what was the point really? Just leads to pointless speculation.

You know what's nice? Not having to pay for inside info.

 

[jordoo]

SU = Longtime hot girlfriend that everyone likes including your parents. Its assumed you are going to the senior prom with her.
MICH = Girl that you have known for a while that suddenly turns into a SUPERHOTTIE the summer before your senior season. She's exciting and Crazy and thinks your great. No one else you know really digs her though.

So since you are young you dump your best girl and start bouncing around with the new hottie, even saying you will take her to the senior prom. The thing is that after a while although she's still hot the crazy s exactly that CRAZY and the exciting wares off as the reality of the situation starts to sink in. You realize that not only was your old girlfriend just as hot, she also understood you and wanted what you wanted while being a really great fit for you, your family and your friends. Meanwhile your new girlfriend has sort of isolated you from everyone else and doesn't really seem to see the same things for your future that you do. New girlfriend isn't stupid so you cut ties and head right back to old girlfiend to make things right. You haven't asked her to the prom yet but you both know you're going together.

 

[MSOrange]

SU = Longtime hot girlfriend that everyone likes including your parents. Its assumed you are going to the senior prom with her.
MICH = Girl that you have known for a while that suddenly turns into a SUPERHOTTIE the summer before your senior season. She's exciting and Crazy and thinks your great. No one else you know really digs her though.

So since you are young you dump your best girl and start bouncing around with the new hottie, even saying you will take her to the senior prom. The thing is that after a while although she's still hot the crazy s exactly that CRAZY and the exciting wares off as the reality of the situation starts to sink in. You realize that not only was your old girlfriend just as hot, she also understood you and wanted what you wanted while being a really great fit for you, your family and your friends. Meanwhile your new girlfriend has sort of isolated you from everyone else and doesn't really seem to see the same things for your future that you do. New girlfriend isn't stupid so you cut ties and head right back to old girlfiend to make things right. You haven't asked her to the prom yet but you both know you're going together.

Or you could be like I was and not get a prom date at all! I guess you could say I was the Rutgers of my high school class.

 

[ORANGE OATH]

SU = Longtime hot girlfriend that everyone likes including your parents. Its assumed you are going to the senior prom with her.
MICH = Girl that you have known for a while that suddenly turns into a SUPERHOTTIE the summer before your senior season. She's exciting and Crazy and thinks your great. No one else you know really digs her though.

So since you are young you dump your best girl and start bouncing around with the new hottie, even saying you will take her to the senior prom. The thing is that after a while although she's still hot the crazy s exactly that CRAZY and the exciting wares off as the reality of the situation starts to sink in. You realize that not only was your old girlfriend just as hot, she also understood you and wanted what you wanted while being a really great fit for you, your family and your friends. Meanwhile your new girlfriend has sort of isolated you from everyone else and doesn't really seem to see the same things for your future that you do. New girlfriend isn't stupid so you cut ties and head right back to old girlfiend to make things right. You haven't asked her to the prom yet but you both know you're going together.

Hope you're right about the prom, regarding Tyus Battle that is.

 

[AlaskaSU]

There are 10 scholarships available for 2016-17. Scholarships are still awarded on a year-to-year basis.

Not saying this is how it will go down, but if no other scholarship frees up, then maybe you tell Chino that he needs to consider other options. I don't really have a problem with this. He will have gotten three years of his education paid for by SU with the expectation that he come in and perform on the court. If he hasn't raised his level of play before this senior year to the point where the staff sees him as a clear asset to the program coming into his senior year, why should you feel an obligation to give him another year of scholarship at the expense of someone else that can help the team? Projects that are freshman or sophomores are one thing. Seniors that are projects don't add value, except maybe in trying to bolster APR scores.

He could go elsewhere to finish up, or he could give up basketball and do what every other kid does... become a regular student and pay his own way. If he's not going to help the team enough in this senior season to be a lock for a scholarship, then he isn't going to have a pro career, here or over seas. If he isn't going to have a pro career, than his focus should be on getting his degree and he will have had three years of that education paid for by the basketball program. There would also be nothing stopping JB from cutting him loose from the program, but having him put on another form of scholarship so that he has the opportunity to finish his degree. I don't think any player is owed one of the limited scholarship roster spots on the team, they have to earn those.

We offered Chino a scholly and the understanding is that it is for 4 years unless he violates acceptable behavior. This is not the pros nor a slimeball operation like UCon was. We knew that Chino was a project when we offered. If Chino was our mistake it is our responsibility, not his, as long as he is doing his best. We are an educational institution, first and foremost, although you would not have known it under PC Cantor. One possibility is that we offered Chino to lure Bryant. Since that ship sailed, we should punish Chino?

 

[OrangeYaGladi]

We offered Chino a scholly and the understanding is that it is for 4 years unless he violates acceptable behavior. This is not the pros nor a slimeball operation like UCon was. We knew that Chino was a project when we offered. If Chino was our mistake it is our responsibility, not his, as long as he is doing his best. We are an educational institution, first and foremost, although you would not have known it under PC Cantor. One possibility is that we offered Chino to lure Bryant. Since that ship sailed, we should punish Chino?

 

[jordoo]

So when Battle commits will we get back to some sort of even keiled sanity around here?

 

[hoopsupstate]

I believe as of July 1 all ACC scholarships are guaranteed for four years.

 

[pfister1]

We offered Chino a scholly and the understanding is that it is for 4 years unless he violates acceptable behavior. This is not the pros nor a slimeball operation like UCon was. We knew that Chino was a project when we offered. If Chino was our mistake it is our responsibility, not his, as long as he is doing his best. We are an educational institution, first and foremost, although you would not have known it under PC Cantor. One possibility is that we offered Chino to lure Bryant. Since that ship sailed, we should punish Chino?

If JB felt as strongly about it, there is the option of awarding a player who isn't going to contribute a scholarship from another source of funds within the institution but taking him off of the roster, at least I assume that is an option. I don't think you can give him an academic scholarship and keep him on the roster as that would essentially be a way around the scholarship limits.

If you believe there is a moral obligation to extend the financial commitment for four years in the absence of misconduct, do you also believe there is a moral obligation to provide the kid with a roster spot as well if he clearly won't contribute?

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

If JB felt as strongly about it, there is the option of awarding a player who isn't going to contribute a scholarship from another source of funds within the institution but taking him off of the roster, at least I assume that is an option. I don't think you can give him an academic scholarship and keep him on the roster as that would essentially be a way around the scholarship limits.

If you believe there is a moral obligation to extend the financial commitment for four years in the absence of misconduct, do you also believe there is a moral obligation to provide the kid with a roster spot as well if he clearly won't contribute?

I do. You made a deal. The deal has options for the kid: quit, transfer, but not for you, as a teacher, coach, adult, etc. I happen to think the kid will be more than just practice fodder down the road. Losing the year of eligibility really hurts.