Plans for new SU stadium on hold

[SU2NASA]

If they are planning on building a stadium within city limits, it will never happen, too many obstructionists in the city, to get anything done.

Move the team!

Orlando Orangemen, I like the sound of that.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

getting rid of the Dome will hinder and damage Syracuse University athletics.

the football team is there 5 hours a week, 6x a year.

and as for the hoop team...they are the Dome.

its all about the practice facilities.


oh, and how is it outdated and problematic???

It doesn't have that new car smell anymore.

 

[xc84]

i'm with you. give me benches, stairs, beer, and a game to watch.

Forget the stairs. Replace the stairs with ropes which would help keep people in shape. Good upper body workout.

 

[KaiserUEO]

It doesn't have that new car smell anymore.

sadly, i dont think you are that far from some peoples truth and position on it.

 

[xc84]

getting rid of the Dome will hinder and damage Syracuse University athletics.

the football team is there 5 hours a week, 6x a year.

and as for the hoop team...they are the Dome.

its all about the practice facilities.


oh, and how is it outdated and problematic???

Very few are saying anything about "getting rid of the dome" and not replacing it with a better structure. If they replace it, it will only enhance SU athletics.

The current dome is one bad rip away from winter catastrophe.

The current dome and its air supported roof have served us well but it's time to renovate or replace.

 

[OttoMets]

We'll see what happens to Gross, but I think the new stadium idea has sailed. This administration is moving away from such complicated and extravagant projects.

The Dome renovation and expansion plan has new life and we're going to hear quite a bit about it in coming years.

 

[JeremyCuse]

We'll see what happens to Gross, but I think the new stadium idea has sailed. This administration is moving away from such complicated and extravagant projects.

The Dome renovation and expansion plan has new life and we're going to hear quite a bit about it in coming years.

Dome renovation is perfect in my mind. The dome has become synonmous with Syracuse, no need for a new stadium.

 

[KaiserUEO]

Very few are saying anything about "getting rid of the dome" and not replacing it with a better structure. If they replace it, it will only enhance SU athletics.

The current dome is one bad rip away from winter catastrophe.

The current dome and its air supported roof have served us well but it's time to renovate or replace.

so put a new roof on it.

done.

much cheeaper too.

i dont sit around arenas or any building for that matter thinking how cool & modern the roof is.

has technology gotten worse in 35years??? can they no longer build a inflatable Dome roof that isnt an absolute catastrophe waiting to happen??

listen, i get the university wants the land, but nothing else makes sense.

especially dollars and cents, sense.

 

[Whitey23]

so put a new roof on it.

done.

much cheeaper too.

i dont sit around arenas or any building for that matter thinking how cool & modern the roof is.

has technology gotten worse in 35years??? can they no longer build a inflatable Dome roof that isnt an absolute catastrophe waiting to happen??

listen, i get the university wants the land, but nothing else makes sense.

especially dollars and cents, sense.

 

[KaiserUEO]

minnesota is inhabited by a bunch of inbreds and crazy people, dont know what else to tell you.

i remember that well, they were to play the Giants...and it was moved to detroit on a monday, Big W for BigBlue.

the following week was quite possibly the worst experience ive ever had at Giants Stadium...

 

[OttoMets]

Dome renovation is perfect in my mind. The dome has become synonmous with Syracuse, no need for a new stadium.

One thing that stays with me (especially after going to road or NCAA games at newer NBA arenas) - building codes would prevent construction of a seating bowl anything like the Dome in the future. Seats and aisles would be so much wider, we'd lose that close-in feel that makes the Dome so special and loud.

That by itself should make renovation the smarter move.

 

[JeremyCuse]

One thing that stays with me (especially after going to road or NCAA games at newer NBA arenas) - building codes would prevent construction of a seating bowl anything like the Dome in the future. Seats and aisles would be so much wider, we'd lose that close-in feel that makes the Dome so special and loud.

That by itself should make renovation the smarter move.

Agreed, the Dome has a charm that simply can be replicated and as you noted what was acceptable in the early 80's isnt going to fly today so even if we wanted to build an exact replica we wouldnt be able to. For a hundred million plus SU could do some great renovations to the dome. Get the bathrooms re-done, update the again infrastructure for concession stands, lighting, and paint. Put a bathroom in Club 44 (just for you DCCuse), and then look at what Bees said about maybe blowing out one part and adding in some new amenities. Would also make sense to renovate the luxury boxes, when you look at them from the stands it screams late 80's early 90's.

 

[xc84]

so put a new roof on it.

done.

much cheeaper too.

i dont sit around arenas or any building for that matter thinking how cool & modern the roof is.

has technology gotten worse in 35years??? can they no longer build a inflatable Dome roof that isnt an absolute catastrophe waiting to happen??

listen, i get the university wants the land, but nothing else makes sense.

especially dollars and cents, sense.

I think if you were in a retractable roof stadium (e.g. Lucal Oil) I bet you would notice and admire it. The reason these are built is that people like them. They like the option of being indoors in bad weather and "outdoors" in good. This is not a new phenomena.

I've never seen a new stadium that makes dollars and sense. Most are lost leaders that at best, increase the visibility and live-ability of the community at large.

A fabric roof for a stadium is simply a catastrophe in waiting. It's why no one is building them any more despite the cheap cost.

 

[Shermthegeneral]

Not surprised.

 

[KaiserUEO]

I think if you were in a retractable roof stadium (e.g. Lucal Oil) I bet you would notice and admire it. The reason these are built is that people like them. They like the option of being indoors in bad weather and "outdoors" in good. This is not a new phenomena.

I've never seen a new stadium that makes dollars and sense. Most are lost leaders that at best, increase the visibility and live-ability of the community at large.

A fabric roof for a stadium is simply a catastrophe in waiting. It's why no one is building them any more despite the cheap cost.

if i ever go to a football game to sit and stare at the roof, you have permission to shoot me. good luck, im sure there will be a long line though.

never heard of an outdoor dome, so i would assume any new roofed stadium or dome would remain indoors.

35 years later, our roof(s) are still going strong.

lets get nice new blankee to replace the old one.

 

[javadoc]

Dome renovation is perfect in my mind. The dome has become synonmous with Syracuse, no need for a new stadium.

If they replaced the roof with something relatively flat, it would no longer be a "Dome", right? Take away half the identifiers, and it's no longer the same thing.

Time for a new naming rights agreement.

 

[xc84]

never heard of an outdoor dome, so i would assume any new roofed stadium or dome would remain indoors.

Ever hear of a retractable roof? When it opens, you are no longer indoors.

 

[Stern]

getting rid of the Dome will hinder and damage Syracuse University athletics.

the football team is there 5 hours a week, 6x a year.

and as for the hoop team...they are the Dome.

its all about the practice facilities.


oh, and how is it outdated and problematic???

So in your fantasy world the Dome is ONLY used for SU football and hoops? Hmm, news to every high school event and every other event that uses the building. Bottom line is it's a 35 year old stadium next year and won't make it to 60 years old like you somehow think it will. That is your logic, wait till the thing is 60 years old then start thinking about replacing it. The Dome is good enough today but won't be in 10 years or so let alone 25 years from now when its a 60 year old building. Stadiums don't get built overnight. Takes lots of money and planning. Can't get caught where other schools pass us by with vastly better stadiums and SU is looking minor league and looking around the landscape saying , hey wait...the Dome is an issue we gotta do something! The Dome is an issue now, not a huge issue but an issue and it will be a very big issue a decade from now. So, start the planning and process of replacing the building or doing a major face-lift to have it be a viable stadium NOW...not 5 years from now, not 10 years from now, and SURE AS HELL not 25 years from now like you want to. Start the process NOW and don't put it off.

 

[Millhouse]

So in your fantasy world the Dome is ONLY used for SU football and hoops? Hmm, news to every high school event and every other event that uses the building. Bottom line is it's a 35 year old stadium next year and won't make it to 60 years old like you somehow think it will. That is your logic, wait till the thing is 60 years old then start thinking about replacing it. The Dome is good enough today but won't be in 10 years or so let alone 25 years from now when its a 60 year old building. Stadiums don't get built overnight. Takes lots of money and planning. Can't get caught where other schools pass us by with vastly better stadiums and SU is looking minor league and looking around the landscape saying , hey wait...the Dome is an issue we gotta do something! The Dome is an issue now, not a huge issue but an issue and it will be a very big issue a decade from now. So, start the planning and process of replacing the building or doing a major face-lift to have it be a viable stadium NOW...not 5 years from now, not 10 years from now, and SURE AS HELL not 25 years from now like you want to. Start the process NOW and don't put it off.

it won't make it to 60 and high school games and NOW NOW NOW

ooooooohkay

 

[CousCuse]

Once you start renovating a large public facility such as the dome , the entire structure would have to be brought up to todays codes. There's the rub.

 

[SU2NASA]

Once you start renovating a large public facility such as the dome , the entire structure would have to be brought up to todays codes. There's the rub.

That's exactly one of the problem's Michigan Stadium had when it was renovated/expanded a few years ago. They had to rip out the entire bowl and repour the concrete and while doing so, widen the aisles and create more handicapped access among other things.

 

[DoubleDee]

Still no one has mentioned anything"wrong" with the dome. I mean structurally, mostly. Don't say bench seats. I mean infrastructure wise.
Everyone seems to just go to their opinions, and personal pet peeves about the place. IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE BUILDING??
I'm sick of hearing...

Pee troughs
Halls are too narrow
Bench seats
Food

Give me some legitimate concerns

Old Archie stood in that spot for approximately double what the dome has. And yes, that needed to be replaced.

 

[xc84]

Still no one has mentioned anything"wrong" with the dome. I mean structurally, mostly. Don't say bench seats. I mean infrastructure wise.
Everyone seems to just go to their opinions, and personal pet peeves about the place. IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE BUILDING??
I'm sick of hearing...

Pee troughs
Halls are too narrow
Bench seats
Food

Give me some legitimate concerns

Old Archie stood in that spot for approximately double what the dome has. And yes, that needed to be replaced.

Structurally it's fine. The university has confirmed that.

 

[AAM62]

Why are people so enamored with a retractable roof? I mean honestly...how many outdoor games will be held? Maybe you can open it up for summer time events but it just doesn't justify the cost to me.

 

[xc84]

Why are people so enamored with a retractable roof? I mean honestly...how many outdoor games will be held? Maybe you can open it up for summer time events but it just doesn't justify the cost to me.

It depends. If you are building a new stadium, a retractable roof v. a fixed roof is relatively not that bad. If you are renovating a stadium with an air-supported roof, it's like building a new stadium cost-wise. Very high cost. If they are building a new stadium, I'd say spend the extra on a retractable roof. I am not enamored with it...just like it. I'd say about 1/2 of home games could be with the roof retracted.