Postgame Thoughts… VCU

[Toga]

Maybe JB should start wearing suits again. I'm half serious. Looks good in a suit (selected by Juli). He looks tired in casual attire. Maybe that rubs off.
Back to your regular programming.

 

[Sherman20]

We’re gonna get housed by Baylor or Arizona State tomorrow. Our guys don’t look like P5 athletes.

 

[AZOrange]

Me. With the exposure I have to the program, I’m truly shocked

Coaches did too

 

[OrangeDW]

We’re gonna get housed by Baylor or Arizona State tomorrow. Our guys don’t look like P5 athletes.

Next 4: ASU/Baylor, Indiana, Florida State, Villanova. I’m afraid we’re going to be 2-6 going into the Georgetown game.

 

[kirbivore]

Next 4: ASU/Baylor, Indiana, Florida State, Villanova. I’m afraid we’re going to be 2-6 going into the Georgetown game.

The non losing season streak ends this season

 

[Sherman20]

I remember thinking to myself after the end of the year what a weird-ass situation we're in where we come off a Sweet 16 year and we could conceivably have had every starter come back plus our top three reserves and instead we wind up with 6 departures, 2 new starters, and 3 new reserves. I mean in the old days, that Sweet 16 team would be thinking about taking the next step towards a championship rather than taking the next step towards establishing their brand. Not saying that it was good or even advisable for everyone to come back but we clearly should have been panicking even more than we were back then.

A new generation of kids who have no loyalty to programs who have never really had loyalty to them is not surprising to me and is not necessarily our coach's fault but if coach can't deal with the new system, then he needs to step aside.

Agreed. But Marek was a senior and graduated and Griff was def a one year rental. But we def lost four guys that we shouldn’t have.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Next 4: ASU/Baylor, Indiana, Florida State, Villanova. I’m afraid we’re going to be 2-6 going into the Georgetown game.

Hence why the colgate loss was insane

 

[supp]

Coach is saying in the postgame presser that Jesse has to stay in the game for us to be successful and he's right. The problem is that Jesse has an impossible job. If the top of the zone can't stop dribble penetration, then it's essentially 3 on 1 or 3 on 2 in the paint and Jesse can't be expected to stay out of foul trouble if he's repeatedly put into that situation. The top of the zone is the weakest it's been since White-Gillon and Edwards can't be expected to clean up the mess every possession.

 

[Sherman20]

I remember thinking to myself after the end of the year what a weird-ass situation we're in where we come off a Sweet 16 year and we could conceivably have had every starter come back plus our top three reserves and instead we wind up with 6 departures, 2 new starters, and 3 new reserves. I mean in the old days, that Sweet 16 team would be thinking about taking the next step towards a championship rather than taking the next step towards establishing their brand. Not saying that it was good or even advisable for everyone to come back but we clearly should have been panicking even more than we were back then.

A new generation of kids who have no loyalty to programs who have never really had loyalty to them is not surprising to me and is not necessarily our coach's fault but if coach can't deal with the new system, then he needs to step aside.

Guys like Few and Drew show that kids can and do have loyalty to coaches and programs that deserve their loyalty.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Here’s a positive- happy to bring these postgame threads back!

 

[Day2]

We’ll always have Boeheim’s Army.

 

[OrangeDW]

12-18 or something seems likely. This sucks.

 

[Scooch]

This is unacceptable.

I mean, apparently it’s quite acceptable. This is precisely the team that our head coach wanted.

 

[Briancuse]

Coach is saying in the postgame presser that Jesse has to stay in the game for us to be successful and he's right. The problem is that Jesse has an impossible job. If the top of the zone can't stop dribble penetration, then it's essentially 3 on 1 or 3 on 2 in the paint and Jesse can't be expected to stay out of foul trouble if he's repeatedly put into that situation. The top of the zone is the weakest it's been since White-Gillon and Edwards can't be expected to clean up the mess every possession.

Jesse is a nice player but our success shouldnt hinge on him.

 

[Scooch]

I remember thinking to myself after the end of the year what a weird-ass situation we're in where we come off a Sweet 16 year and we could conceivably have had every starter come back plus our top three reserves and instead we wind up with 6 departures, 2 new starters, and 3 new reserves. I mean in the old days, that Sweet 16 team would be thinking about taking the next step towards a championship rather than taking the next step towards establishing their brand. Not saying that it was good or even advisable for everyone to come back but we clearly should have been panicking even more than we were back then.

A new generation of kids who have no loyalty to programs who have never really had loyalty to them is not surprising to me and is not necessarily our coach's fault but if coach can't deal with the new system, then he needs to step aside.

The red flag was that, by all accounts, the four guys who left all decided to do so long before the season ended. Something was broken last year, and it seems like it has been all too often with this program culturally for a while now.

 

[Ghost]

Next 4: ASU/Baylor, Indiana, Florida State, Villanova. I’m afraid we’re going to be 2-6 going into the Georgetown game.

Ehhhhhhhhhh, I think you've said this before too - we're like a zoned up Notre Dame (minus their athleticism), so, you gotta figure in at least one of those games we go bananas from three and blow someone out.

That's such a Notre Dame thing to do, so why not for us too?

I'm going with 3-5!

 

[HoustonCuse]

We are at least guaranteed to not play Uconn right? I couldn't take a pasting against them after what is coming tomorrow. I had Auburn today but I don't mind losing that one if it means we don't play them.

We might be able to beat ASU if that is who we get

Remember, the way this team is built, we will have some What wins to go with the terribleness we’ve witnessed over the past week. I said before that I don’t cotton to a team who is banking on offense. Offense is just too inconsistent and also, although I give the coaching staff a wide latitude normally, I will say that JB seems to have completely stopped coaching or planning any offensive organization starting in about 2013. So this being an “offensive” team was a red flag. It is absolutely inconsistent, especially given that our strength appears to be simply “making three pointers” and JB does nothing to teach the team to generate quality shots.

 

[supp]

Next 4: ASU/Baylor, Indiana, Florida State, Villanova. I’m afraid we’re going to be 2-6 going into the Georgetown game.

We've got two more games in Atlantis. G'town is the 10th game.

 

[orangepassion]

We’ll always have Boeheim’s Army.

I would argue Boeheim's Army is more athletic than this team.

 

[dan7800]

The non losing season streak ends this season

I’ve been saying this for the last few seasons.

 

[Toga]

What happened to grabbing some pine for not closing out on shooters?

 

[djcon57]

What happened to grabbing some pine for not closing out on shooters?

who you want to come in?

 

[Day2]

I would argue Boeheim's Army is more athletic than this team.

And no one would disagree with you.

 

[CardiacCuse]

The biggest problem with Girard is defense, JB can't play man as long as he is in the game, so he has to play a zone.

that and not being to play PG against pressure d.

 

[CardiacCuse]

What happened to grabbing some pine for not closing out on shooters?

well...in order to justify playing the starters a lot of minutes there couldnt be good bench options...so there arent any.