Class of 2023 - QB Rickie Collins (LA) TRANSFERRING TO SYRACUSE (12/20/24) | Page 19 | Syracusefan.com

Class of 2023 QB Rickie Collins (LA) TRANSFERRING TO SYRACUSE (12/20/24)

Killdozer said:
Can you show those stats?
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I've got 3 other posts in this thread with his various stats. You'll see them if you look / keep reading this thread.
 
IthacaMatt said:
Facts disagree with you.

462 completions at Syracuse ranks fifth in program history ...
5,771 passing yards at Syracuse ranks sixth in program history ...
60.4 completion percentage at Syracuse ranks third in program history ...
136.1 career passing efficiency at SU ranks fourth in program history ...
164.9 passing yards per game ranks sixth in program history ...
7.54 yards per attempt in his Orange career ranks fifth in program history ...
39 touchdown passes at Syracuse ranks sixth in program history ...

Ends his career ranked fifth in program history in total offense (7,474 yards) and third in program history in yards per game (213.5) ... 31 rushing touchdowns ranks tied for fifth in SU history with Sean Tucker and James Mungro ... 70 touchdowns responsible concludes his career ranked fourth in SU history
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Stats disagree but the game has changed dramatically over the years when comparing QB's through different era's

Qb's listed below who would you say Shrader threw the football better than:

Donnie Mc, Philcox, Graves, McNabb, Nunes, RJ, Paulus, Nassib, Dungey, DeVito, McCord.

he also couldn't stay healthy the back half of both seasons rendering him a non factor throwing the football.
 
IthacaBarrel said:
Stats disagree but the game has changed dramatically over the years when comparing QB's through different era's

Qb's listed below who would you say Shrader threw the football better than:

Donnie Mc, Philcox, Graves, McNabb, Nunes, RJ, Paulus, Nassib, Dungey, McCord
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Donnie Mac, Graves, McNabb - all better; those are the top tier guys. McCord isn't the running threat that they were, but he was by far the best passer we've ever seen, and belongs among them at the top.

Philcox has one good year, with a terrific team around him. I put him below the rest.

Paulus put up good numbers in his one season, mostly running for his life. But he barely threw the ball downfield, and didn't have the strength he would have had if he had played football from the start.

Nunes was worse than Tommy DeVito in the pocket, and he couldn't take a hit. He played scared. I'll never forget that dead duck interception he threw against Michigan while running 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage, or that terrible game he had vs. Georgia Tech at the Meadowlands, so no, Nunes sucks. Worst of the bunch, to me. And RJ was also pretty bad.

I would put Shrader on the 2nd tier with Dungey and Nassib (who threw very hard passes prior to this senior year, when he finally gained some touch).
 
IthacaMatt said:
Donnie Mac, Graves, McNabb - all better; those are the top tier guys. McCord isn't the running threat that they were, but he was by far the best passer we've ever seen, and belongs among them at the top.

Philcox has one good year, with a terrific team around him. I put him below the rest.

Paulus put up good numbers in his one season, mostly running for his life. But he barely threw the ball downfield, and didn't have the strength he would have had if he had played football from the start.

Nunes was worse than Tommy DeVito in the pocket, and he couldn't take a hit. He played scared. I'll never forget that dead duck interception he threw against Michigan while running 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage, or that terrible game he had vs. Georgia Tech at the Meadowlands, so no, Nunes sucks. Worst of the bunch, to me. And RJ was also pretty bad.

I would put Shrader on the 2nd tier with Dungey and Nassib (who threw very hard passes prior to this senior year, when he finally gained some touch).
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You do realize that Philcox was in the NFL for 9 years and he wasn't an NFL back up because of his athleticism, tough to put him behind the rest. I would put Shrader towards the bottom of all of them with regard to passing the football, the surgery between his junior and senior year didn't help either.

Devito as well isn't in the NFL for no reason either
 
IthacaMatt said:
Donnie Mac, Graves, McNabb - all better; those are the top tier guys. McCord isn't the running threat that they were, but he was by far the best passer we've ever seen, and belongs among them at the top.

Philcox has one good year, with a terrific team around him. I put him below the rest.

Paulus put up good numbers in his one season, mostly running for his life. But he barely threw the ball downfield, and didn't have the strength he would have had if he had played football from the start.

Nunes was worse than Tommy DeVito in the pocket, and he couldn't take a hit. He played scared. I'll never forget that dead duck interception he threw against Michigan while running 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage, or that terrible game he had vs. Georgia Tech at the Meadowlands, so no, Nunes sucks. Worst of the bunch, to me. And RJ was also pretty bad.

I would put Shrader on the 2nd tier with Dungey and Nassib (who threw very hard passes prior to this senior year, when he finally gained some touch).
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To be fair with Nunes, that UM game that everyone remembers was when he was a frosh if I recall, and shoved onto the field far sooner than he ever should have been.

As a footnote to that game, Tom Brady passed for 26 yards.
 
Dick_in_MI said:
To be fair with Nunes, that UM game that everyone remembers was when he was a frosh if I recall, and shoved onto the field far sooner than he ever should have been.

As a footnote to that game, Tom Brady passed for 26 yards.
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Not a great play call either. And some officiating issues. And we were still fairly competitive...
 
CuseLegacy said:
No.
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Interesting. Thanks for the response.

So...now i'm guessing either we are still figuring out NIL details or we are slow playing him to peruse other opportunities that are now popping up or maybe waiting to see if other better options do enter the portal. Thinking its the slow play scenario.
 
EnviroSciGuy said:
Poor choice. AI is pretty much taking over this field.

(That's artificial intelligence; not Rutgers Al)
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Makes sense. When I was in grad school in the early 90's, we used to wave goodbye to the poor souls who vanished into this one guy's research group. "See you in 12 years!"
 
IthacaBarrel said:
You do realize that Philcox was in the NFL for 9 years and he wasn't an NFL back up because of his athleticism, tough to put him behind the rest. I would put Shrader towards the bottom of all of them with regard to passing the football, the surgery between his junior and senior year didn't help either.

Devito as well isn't in the NFL for no reason either
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Philcox is an excellent comparison to Kyle. Good arm, quick trigger, pocket awareness, intelligent, great locker room presence
 
CbusCuse said:
Interesting. Thanks for the response.

So...now i'm guessing either we are still figuring out NIL details or we are slow playing him to peruse other opportunities that are now popping up or maybe waiting to see if other better options do enter the portal. Thinking its the slow play scenario.
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No. I think some of y'all need to wait and see what else develops in regards to a QB.
 
CuseLegacy said:
No. I think some of y'all need to wait and see what else develops in regards to a QB.
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