Quincy Guerrier transferring to Oregon

[jncuse]

To me its fairly simple

Q played well here, was third team all-ACC as a soph, and yet was not deemed an NBA prospect.

It's not a major risk to go elsewhere and try to raise your status when you do not have to give up a year. It might well be a wash and he will not be able to take the next step as a prospect. But maybe it does work out. What does he have to lose. Not much other than the respect of a smallish portion of Syracuse fans apparently.

It was just not a match between JB's system and QG anymore in the eyes of QB. Given that players and coaches try to match up needs / systems / roles every recruiting period and make choices based on that, why should we be shocked he left in this "Free transfer" year to what he felt was a better fit.

QG doesn't owe anything to Syracuse or its fanbase. He worked hard in his two years here, was a good representative of Syracuse, and left respectfully and diplomatically.

 

[FrancoPizza]

some guys are better fits for the college game and their skill sets do not translate to the pros. Q is a good example. Let some other program try the round peg tight hole experiment.

 

[Alsacs]

I didn’t mean that he would have to completely develop SF skills from scratch. But, they aren’t ACC ready and certainly not NBA ready. And that’s fine. You know he is working his ass off on these skills. And, I hope it works. One thing with Q, you know he will put in the work. I wish he were staying, and as an upperclassman, given the chance to broaden his game.

ACC ready doesn’t mean anything.
The PAC-12 isn’t much different than the ACC.

Good luck to Q.

 

[kirbivore]

Would you rather fight one horse sized duck or one hundred duck sized horses?

 

[Cuse1055]

Would you rather fight one horse sized duck or one hundred duck sized horses?

Were you listening to the morning show on KROCK this week by chance? Because they used the exact same scenario ha.

 

[Briancuse]

True, but not that cut and dried. At a program like Syracuse, players have aspirations to play pro ball and the Coach has some responsibility to help that player develop. Not only helps the player, but it helps the program on the court and the recruiting trail. The coach cannot, however help a player develop to the detriment of the team. And with no high quality rebounders and a plethora of perimeter talent next year, allowing Q to be solely a wing player to showcase individual skills would detriment the team.

The staff made him into a pretty. Nice player had he not got hurt his freshman year he probably would have left for the NBA by now.

 

[OrangeinDC]

I think dasher and Alsacs should do a podcast.

No no no...

A dance off!!!

 

[OrangeinDC]

Unfortunately for Quincy, he didn’t demonstrate the skills to play the three. That’s on him not SU.

Not jumping into any argument, but Q was just a soph. Not saying he would or wouldn't have developed additional skills, but he had 2/3 years to get there eligibility wise ( I know he's kinda old for this route). I think it's a challenge for him because he really is a "tweaner" position wise and it's more 3/4 vice 2/3. Crazy thing is I think the defense is more the issue, I don't see the foot speed to really guard good 2/3s and he's not big enough to bang down low with the 4s.

 

[Col. Bleep]

...QG doesn't owe anything to Syracuse or its fanbase. He worked hard in his two years here, was a good representative of Syracuse, and left respectfully and diplomatically.

Well said.
Sorry to see him go.
Quincy left it all on the court for the Orange...especially playing hurt as a freshman.
He deserves an opportunity to develop skills he wouldn't have had much of a chance to develop at Syracuse.
Hope he does it at Oregon.

 

[JDubbin]

It's just wild to me when it comes to Quincy's age in the midst of all of this. In comparison, finishing his sophomore year & moving into being a junior, he's a little over a full year older than RJ Barrett, who's finishing up his second year in the NBA (Playoff Knicks, baby!). To spend ANOTHER year developing in preparation for the NBA, he'll be 23 by the next draft - Barrett will have finished his 3rd year in NBA, at a year younger than Quincy will be entering into the process (if he can make it).
Sidenote: I graduated from Syracuse at age 21... sports landscape with prep school, holding players back a grade, etc. is just different.

As I mentioned before in a different post, this upcoming Syracuse squad has a potential starting lineup that could be an older median age than some NBA starting lineups... Syracuse Old Heads Edition

 

[djcon57]

It's just wild to me when it comes to Quincy's age in the midst of all of this. In comparison, finishing his sophomore year & moving into being a junior, he's a little over a full year older than RJ Barrett, who's finishing up his second year in the NBA (Playoff Knicks, baby!). To spend ANOTHER year developing in preparation for the NBA, he'll be 23 by the next draft - Barrett will have finished his 3rd year in NBA, at a year younger than Quincy will be entering into the process (if he can make it).
Sidenote: I graduated from Syracuse at age 21... sports landscape with prep school, holding players back a grade, etc. is just different.

As I mentioned before in a different post, this upcoming Syracuse squad has a potential starting lineup that could be an older median age than some NBA starting lineups... Syracuse Old Heads Edition

when I saw that Julius Randle was 26, I almost fainted.

 

[jncuse]

No. It's in his statement. He believes the best way to make it to the next stage is by playing at the 3. Boeheim most likely wanted him to be a utility or 4. This is how many players look at college right now - "what's best for me to make it to the NBA", not, "I'll do what's best for the team".

Q played his ass for the team for 2 years. To make it sound like he did not care about what was best for the team does not make sense to me.

He no longer had any obligations to Syracuse and made a choice.

 

[jncuse]

Would you rather fight one horse sized duck or one hundred duck sized horses?

Not a duck, but I was attacked by a Canadian Geese about 5 years ago while I was biking against a strong wind. They got in two solid whacks on my upper back / arm area. They can be pretty damn vicious.

 

[dasher]

No no no...

A dance off!!!

Perhaps you didn't read about my injured knee

 

[Cusefan0307]

I think dasher and Alsacs should do a podcast.

I expect Kaiser to be a regular guest.

 

[OrangeinDC]

Perhaps you didn't read about my injured knee

Oh yeah... bummer.. But!

You sound like you might have some moves for him if you were better!!!

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

Not a bad choice if he stays a couple years he might be able to take an NBA job from someone.

 

[texascpa]

Q played his ass for the team for 2 years. To make it sound like he did not care about what was best for the team does not make sense to me.

He no longer had any obligations to Syracuse and made a choice.

You certainly construed what I said, but that's fine. I never said anything related to what he gave in the prior years. I agree with you on the previous two. I never said what he said is good or bad, just my interpretation of it. You can't argue that this move was specifically to help himself align with his best chance to make the NBA. With that, my final sentence still holds. If he would have stayed with SU, he would be doing what Boeheim needed him to do (what's best for the team) and legitimately hamstrung himself. He made a choice, that's my point. I didn't pass judgement.

 

[SUskibum]

How about 7.
If we are a 7 seed nobody wins.
If we are 6 or better you win.
8 or worse I win?

Alsacs , I’ll take that bet. I like you as a poster and think it would be fun. also think I have about a 51% of being right here (Or not being wrong).

If you trust me, what do you think are fair stakes?

EDIT: Also I have fronted money for others on the board before (various communal reasons), including OttoinGrotto and Consigliere

 

[Alsacs]

Alsacs , I’ll take that bet. I like you as a poster and think it would be fun. also think I have about a 51% of being right here (Or not being wrong).

If you trust me, what do you think are fair stakes?

EDIT: Also I have fronted money for others on the board before (various communal reasons), including OttoinGrotto and Consigliere

So $200 basically I’ll do that. Do you play poker in Connecticut? If not we’ll just do 200 straight out. And I hope you win

 

[dasher]

So $200 basically I’ll do that. Do you play poker in Connecticut? If not we’ll just do 200 straight out. And I hope you win

It's still 7 1/2 for me.

 

[orangefog]

I wished you the best of
All this world could give
And I told you when you left me
There's nothing to forgive
But I always thought you'd come back, tell me all you found was
Heartbreak and misery
It's hard for me to say, I'm jealous of the way
You're happy without me.

 

[Alsacs]

It's still 7 1/2 for me.

I’ll do the same bet I agreed to here.
7 is a push nobody wins.
6 or better you win.
8 or worse I win.

 

[dasher]

I’ll do the same bet I agreed to here.
7 is a push nobody wins.
6 or better you win.
8 or worse I win.

Of course you would. I wouldn't. I don't care what anyone else agrees to. It's 7 1/2. I win at 7

 

[Alsacs]

Of you would. I wouldn't. I don't care what anyone else agrees to. It's 7 1/2. I win at 7

I won’t give you that that’s not a top 25 team unless we were the top seven seed and I’ll give you the top 7 seed and not the other three which would be in the S-curve.

I’ll pay $200 or in this case $400 for my team to be a top 25 next year going into the tournament . I don’t care about being 7 seed unless were the top 7 seed and I’ll agree that we were a top 25 team.