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Rickie Collins

I’m convinced bnoro is Rickie’s dad
Why? Because I thought some posters' criticism of him has been over the top before we actually saw him play?

I never said Collins was winning the Heisman, or that there was some huge injustice that Angeli won the job. I thought both QBs were flawed and didn't think once was necessarily better than the other, and my only point was both guys deserved a fair shake from our fans.

However, after a shaky start to the season in the Tennessee/3 quarters of UConn, Angeli looked solid against Colgate, and completely proved me wrong at Clemson. I was looking forward to the rest of the season with him at the helm before the injury (because I am a Syracuse fan and I care more about success than internet points).

I also believed that if Collins got his chance, he had the tools to be successful. While he showed some flashes Saturday I don't think he's good enough to lead us to where Angeli could have if he didn't get injured. I figured after a full week of practice with the ones, and some plays crafted more to his skill set, we would've seen some success against Duke. That was incorrect.

I don't think a true freshman is the answer this season either, but I'm not the coach. I just want to make a bowl game.
 
Why? Because I thought some posters' criticism of him has been over the top before we actually saw him play?

I never said Collins was winning the Heisman, or that there was some huge injustice that Angeli won the job. I thought both QBs were flawed and didn't think once was necessarily better than the other, and my only point was both guys deserved a fair shake from our fans.

However, after a shaky start to the season in the Tennessee/3 quarters of UConn, Angeli looked solid against Colgate, and completely proved me wrong at Clemson. I was looking forward to the rest of the season with him at the helm before the injury (because I am a Syracuse fan and I care more about success than internet points).

I also believed that if Collins got his chance, he had the tools to be successful. While he showed some flashes Saturday I don't think he's good enough to lead us to where Angeli could have if he didn't get injured. I figured after a full week of practice with the ones, and some plays crafted more to his skill set, we would've seen some success against Duke. That was incorrect.

I don't think a true freshman is the answer this season either, but I'm not the coach. I just want to make a bowl game.

We are probably eF’d either way. Might as well develop QB2 for the next two seasons.
 
Or Michael Collins.

Or the other Michael Collins.

Here you go...

 
Probably correct. But the question is can Carney develop more on the bench, rather than being tossed behind this average offensive line.

I'd like to see Jakhari first, otherwise he's gone as soon as the portal opens in the winter.
Jakhari Williams? Give me a break
 
Carney started as a freshman in high school, I don’t think the moment will be too much for him as he has played a lot of football. If he can’t handle then so be it.

Starting Carney now is too risky. Yeah it's great he was starting as a freshman in HS. But we're talking about starting him:
  • At ND
  • At Miami
  • versus a 6-time SB winner
  • versus a rival we never beat
I've read nothing but good things about Carney. Don't get me wrong. He sounds like a key piece of our future. It's not worth the risk. Rushing him in too soon could shatter his confidence and mess up his fundamentals.

We were never making the playoffs. Everyone said it's about making a run in 2026. Here we are.
 
Starting Carney now is too risky. Yeah it's great he was starting as a freshman in HS. But we're talking about starting him:
  • At ND
  • At Miami
  • versus a 6-time SB winner
  • versus a rival we never beat
I've read nothing but good things about Carney. Don't get me wrong. He sounds like a key piece of our future. It's not worth the risk. Rushing him in too soon could shatter his confidence and mess up his fundamentals.

We were never making the playoffs. Everyone said it's about making a run in 2026. Here we are.
He makes slow and bad decisions. Our O-line does not give him the time to make slow decisions and no offense affords bad decisions. What does Carney give us? His legs are a plus, but he needs to make quick decisions.
 
I'm not saying Carney is ready to start. I wouldn't know, I'm still waiting for my practice invite. I suspect he isn't, but being a frosh isn't an automatic disqualifier these days.


Carney is also, AFAIK, the only player in FBS right now who has scored a touchdown on every snap he's played. 😂
 
Jakhari Williams? Give me a break
So I haven’t followed back up qb’s much….mostly because there is little reliable news out there on them…but why does everyone go straight to the undersized freshman vs the 4 star qb whose been in the system already for over a year?
 
Ricki has a ton of arm talent. Can it be harensed? That is the single biggest issue on this team.

Period. He has all he needs to make him successful.
Does he though? I haven’t seen anything special about his arm.

Also he doesn’t seem to know how to pass, which is more important. That IMO can’t be fixed this year.
 
Why? Because I thought some posters' criticism of him has been over the top before we actually saw him play?

I never said Collins was winning the Heisman, or that there was some huge injustice that Angeli won the job. I thought both QBs were flawed and didn't think once was necessarily better than the other, and my only point was both guys deserved a fair shake from our fans.

However, after a shaky start to the season in the Tennessee/3 quarters of UConn, Angeli looked solid against Colgate, and completely proved me wrong at Clemson. I was looking forward to the rest of the season with him at the helm before the injury (because I am a Syracuse fan and I care more about success than internet points).

I also believed that if Collins got his chance, he had the tools to be successful. While he showed some flashes Saturday I don't think he's good enough to lead us to where Angeli could have if he didn't get injured. I figured after a full week of practice with the ones, and some plays crafted more to his skill set, we would've seen some success against Duke. That was incorrect.

I don't think a true freshman is the answer this season either, but I'm not the coach. I just want to make a bowl game.
We’re not winning with Rickie. I’d rather lose with Carney getting game reps for his QB2 role next year.
 
We’re not winning with Rickie. I’d rather lose with Carney getting game reps for his QB2 role next year.

At the very least when we fall down three scores in the 2nd half vs SMU let him finish the game. The other team will be more conservative on D so he won’t be “ruined” or overwhelmed.

Same for Pitt who can easily overwhelm a QB. Same for GA Tech since it is a road game against a ranked team.

Then start him as a surprise vs UNC so we can actually get a win.
 
Why? Because I thought some posters' criticism of him has been over the top before we actually saw him play?

I never said Collins was winning the Heisman, or that there was some huge injustice that Angeli won the job. I thought both QBs were flawed and didn't think once was necessarily better than the other, and my only point was both guys deserved a fair shake from our fans.

However, after a shaky start to the season in the Tennessee/3 quarters of UConn, Angeli looked solid against Colgate, and completely proved me wrong at Clemson. I was looking forward to the rest of the season with him at the helm before the injury (because I am a Syracuse fan and I care more about success than internet points).

I also believed that if Collins got his chance, he had the tools to be successful. While he showed some flashes Saturday I don't think he's good enough to lead us to where Angeli could have if he didn't get injured. I figured after a full week of practice with the ones, and some plays crafted more to his skill set, we would've seen some success against Duke. That was incorrect.

I don't think a true freshman is the answer this season either, but I'm not the coach. I just want to make a bowl game.
i was just kidding, but I love your attitude on this, GO ORANGE!
 
Starting Carney now is too risky. Yeah it's great he was starting as a freshman in HS. But we're talking about starting him:
  • At ND
  • At Miami
  • versus a 6-time SB winner
  • versus a rival we never beat
I've read nothing but good things about Carney. Don't get me wrong. He sounds like a key piece of our future. It's not worth the risk. Rushing him in too soon could shatter his confidence and mess up his fundamentals.

We were never making the playoffs. Everyone said it's about making a run in 2026. Here we are.
But it’s not risky IF Collins can’t do the job, it’s a necessity (or maybe try Williams). May not be ideal, but can’t just concede the rest of the season.
 
So I haven’t followed back up qb’s much….mostly because there is little reliable news out there on them…but why does everyone go straight to the undersized freshman vs the 4 star qb whose been in the system already for over a year?
Because carney is QB3. We learned that during Colgate

*edit: also stated explicitly by Fran in Monday presser today
 
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