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Rickie Collins

Why? Because I thought some posters' criticism of him has been over the top before we actually saw him play?

I never said Collins was winning the Heisman, or that there was some huge injustice that Angeli won the job. I thought both QBs were flawed and didn't think once was necessarily better than the other, and my only point was both guys deserved a fair shake from our fans.

However, after a shaky start to the season in the Tennessee/3 quarters of UConn, Angeli looked solid against Colgate, and completely proved me wrong at Clemson. I was looking forward to the rest of the season with him at the helm before the injury (because I am a Syracuse fan and I care more about success than internet points).

I also believed that if Collins got his chance, he had the tools to be successful. While he showed some flashes Saturday I don't think he's good enough to lead us to where Angeli could have if he didn't get injured. I figured after a full week of practice with the ones, and some plays crafted more to his skill set, we would've seen some success against Duke. That was incorrect.

I don't think a true freshman is the answer this season either, but I'm not the coach. I just want to make a bowl game.
We’re not winning with Rickie. I’d rather lose with Carney getting game reps for his QB2 role next year.
 
We’re not winning with Rickie. I’d rather lose with Carney getting game reps for his QB2 role next year.

At the very least when we fall down three scores in the 2nd half vs SMU let him finish the game. The other team will be more conservative on D so he won’t be “ruined” or overwhelmed.

Same for Pitt who can easily overwhelm a QB. Same for GA Tech since it is a road game against a ranked team.

Then start him as a surprise vs UNC so we can actually get a win.
 
Why? Because I thought some posters' criticism of him has been over the top before we actually saw him play?

I never said Collins was winning the Heisman, or that there was some huge injustice that Angeli won the job. I thought both QBs were flawed and didn't think once was necessarily better than the other, and my only point was both guys deserved a fair shake from our fans.

However, after a shaky start to the season in the Tennessee/3 quarters of UConn, Angeli looked solid against Colgate, and completely proved me wrong at Clemson. I was looking forward to the rest of the season with him at the helm before the injury (because I am a Syracuse fan and I care more about success than internet points).

I also believed that if Collins got his chance, he had the tools to be successful. While he showed some flashes Saturday I don't think he's good enough to lead us to where Angeli could have if he didn't get injured. I figured after a full week of practice with the ones, and some plays crafted more to his skill set, we would've seen some success against Duke. That was incorrect.

I don't think a true freshman is the answer this season either, but I'm not the coach. I just want to make a bowl game.
i was just kidding, but I love your attitude on this, GO ORANGE!
 
Starting Carney now is too risky. Yeah it's great he was starting as a freshman in HS. But we're talking about starting him:
  • At ND
  • At Miami
  • versus a 6-time SB winner
  • versus a rival we never beat
I've read nothing but good things about Carney. Don't get me wrong. He sounds like a key piece of our future. It's not worth the risk. Rushing him in too soon could shatter his confidence and mess up his fundamentals.

We were never making the playoffs. Everyone said it's about making a run in 2026. Here we are.
But it’s not risky IF Collins can’t do the job, it’s a necessity (or maybe try Williams). May not be ideal, but can’t just concede the rest of the season.
 
Collins post game gives me pause...
would felt better hearing him act more like a leader and shouldering more blame for our lack of offense...maybe it's just me.
He was kinda nonchalant.
 

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