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Tom played D1 ball and has forgotten more hoops than you'll ever know

I don't care if he's an NBA Hall of Famer. What does that prove? He's another internet tough guy who thinks he can shut someone up for giving an opinion.
 
I can't believe in 2012 people still argue about being negative on the Internet.
Oh, I agree. It just sickens me that someone doesn't want me to be frustrated at any of our players (or coaches) at times. This board and every other message board would really suck without diverse opinions.
 
The chat room is a special room -- it has padded internet walls.

seriously the point of the chat room is so people can talk about their quick non-thought out reactions to save this board from being spammed with crap
 
seriously the point of the chat room is so people can talk about their quick non-thought out reactions to save this board from being spammed with crap
Exactamundo...
 
Exactamundo...
seriously the point of the chat room is so people can talk about their quick non-thought out reactions to save this board from being spammed with crap

Proof and a confession that what you guys spew is crap!


In my house the room for that has a flush toilet. Thankfully those who have entered my home know what should be done in there and what should be exposed in public. Crude, obnoxious and shallow are not endearing traits. That has nothing to do with thin skin as some would have you believe.
 
Proof and a confession that what you guys spew is crap!


In my house the room for that has a flush toilet. Thankfully those who have entered my home know what should be done in there and what should be exposed in public. Crude, obnoxious and shallow are not endearing traits. That has nothing to do with thin skin as some would have you believe.
I just think the chat room is designed for quick comments and judgements. People comment on just about every play. As skurrey said, the board would be a lot more cluttered if someone made a post about every other play. Nothing in the chat room is "exposed in public." It IS like the outhouse of the message board. Glad you made that analogy... Nothing said there should be taken seriously.
 
I just think the chat room is designed for quick comments and judgements. People comment on just about every play. As skurrey said, the board would be a lot more cluttered if someone made a post about every other play. Nothing in the chat room is "exposed in public." It IS like the outhouse of the message board. Glad you made that analogy... Nothing said there should be taken seriously.
Looks like you understand some of it. At least thats a start. Long way to go though.

good night and GO SU!!!!
 
I hate to jump in on this thread - but I too no longer go in the chatroom. Quite frankly, you were one of the reasons, iommi. I have no problem with criticizing players - I do it all the time. These are just general examples but there is a difference between someone saying something like Scoop sucks or Brandon is an (these are not exact examples by anyone but I have seen our players referred to as s in the chatroom) and saying Scoop isn't playing well today or something to that effect . I got to the point in high school and college where my dad wouldn't watch games with me anymore. I'm NOT proud of that. Imagine that, my dad won''t be here forever and I lost out on a chance to spend more time with him on something we both love because I couldn't control myself! It's obvious you are not stupid, iommi. I even honestly agree with a lot of your viewpoints. But there is a way to express things that reflects more positively on the kind of person that you really do seem to be.
 
I hate to jump in on this thread - but I too no longer go in the chatroom. Quite frankly, you were one of the reasons, iommi. I have no problem with criticizing players - I do it all the time. These are just general examples but there is a difference between someone saying something like Scoop sucks or Brandon is an (these are not exact examples by anyone but I have seen our players referred to as s in the chatroom) and saying Scoop isn't playing well today or something to that effect . I got to the point in high school and college where my dad wouldn't watch games with me anymore. I'm NOT proud of that. Imagine that, my dad won''t be here forever and I lost out on a chance to spend more time with him on something we both love because I couldn't control myself! It's obvious you are not stupid, iommi. I even honestly agree with a lot of your viewpoints. But there is a way to express things that reflects more positively on the kind of person that you really do seem to be.

Excellent post.
 
So bad that two upper class guards are playing like high schoolers.
I know exactly when you posted this (well the timestamp does help but...) I was yelling "get them BOTH out of there" and they both stayed in. Glad it turned out well.
 
I'm glad we have a chat room. I'd rather have our bar room talk there than recorded forever on the Internets here. People have to realize that the chat room is a place to vent, to joke and to share a virtual beer with other Cuse fans.
 
Offensive rebounds KST 13 SU 2 TOS even at 9 apiece. WE usually make up the rebounding by TOs. Not today so far.
But.....here is what nobody is saying about the KSU offensive rebounds : How many of them were multiple rebounds within the same possession? In many cases 5 off rebounds only resulted in 2 pts.
 
this thread is ridiculous. scoop and triche were absolutely god awful in the 1st half. we're not allowed to point that out??? we're not allowed to want mcw to get some run?? he certainly couldnt have been any worse. nobody is saying bench scoop for the entire game. only reason we werent down 10 at half is kstate couldnt make a shot. if they stink it up in 1st half on thursday and we're down 35-21 at halftime are we allowed to criticize them then? or since we're 33-2 it can only be rah rah scoop rules



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I thought I would throw my 2 cents in. First as to the OP, there should be some crow eaten. Scoop had a great game. You want to post something like this be prepared to take the heat if you are speaking prematurely.

I don't mind having the opinion placed out there but it is a lightning rod for anti-Scoop, anti-JB bashing as people pile on. Predictably, the why can't he play MCW will come into play.

Can we as a fanbase acknowledge as a default that MCW will not be playing? Kind of like JB will play zone this tourney. We don't know all JBs reasons but we can agree it looks like he has made the decision not to play him this tourney based on his info.
In defense of JBs decision. First, this is not the time for development for future years. So if right now JB does not consider him in his top 3 there is no reason for SU to put out the 4th guard.
I keep hearing MCW couldn't be any worse. First off, yes he could, what you are saying is you don't think he would be worse. Second, what if it takes Scoop time to size up the competition, to understand what works against the player defending him. If you take Scoop out couldn't you be delaying the time it takes Scoop to figure it out?
Looks like JB is playing the experienced guards, so please think twice about posting "why doesn't he put MCW in, just for a few minutes".

As for the chat room, I didn't think it was bad. IMO, this is just where this OP should have aired. Jake wouldn't have had to eat nearly as much crow, nor see the error of his ways quoted a day later.
 
I can't believe in 2012 people still argue about being negative on the Internet.

This is spot on. We spend way too much bandwidth on the Pollyanna v nots battle on this board. It becomes personal for some bec some Polly's will absolutely go off on the most innocuous negative comments without any admin intervention. Instead we have an environment where shaming a negative post and poster is encouraged.

People also need to get there is a huge diff between the chat room and the forum. In terms of the rules of engagement.
 
This is spot on. We spend way too much bandwidth on the Pollyanna v nots battle on this board. It becomes personal for some bec some Polly's will absolutely go off on the most innocuous negative comments without any admin intervention. Instead we have an environment where shaming a negative post and poster is encouraged.

People also need to get there is a huge diff between the chat room and the forum. In terms of the rules of engagement.
Swish, IMO some (not all) of the negative posts on the main board are so over the top and presented so offensively that they're hard to ignore. Those posts are fair game for being called out. And when someone does take issue with one of those posts it doesn't automatically make them a "Pollyanna" and it isn't an attempt to create an environment where certain opinions are censored. But if you're truly comfortable with everything you read on this board, I guess we just have different standards for what is appropriate. Peace.
 
I think coach made the right decision yesterday...we won by friggin 16 pts. Its like people think our team should dominate like they're playing a video game. They have tunnel vision on a few bad plays that a player makes and then fail to see the good ones. The other team is trying too. They are going to make there shots, force turnovers, and get there steals too. So its unwise to say that a player sucks after they have a bad play when there is still 35 minutes left in the game.

Furthermore, Scoop and Brandon were hand picked among the best players in the country to play at Syracuse. So it can only be described as delusional when middle aged, no athletic bone in their body, men say some of the best players in the country suck. Especially when they probably have no idea what its like to play against guys that are 6'3'' and can throw it down with ease. I know 6'7'' guys who dont dunk like that. Its a different game, and unless you've played against it, its probably funny seeing the posts and the lack of respect people show towards he players on a 33-2 team.

People are certainly entitled to their opinions and can post anything they want. But just because you can post anything, doesn't mean you should. I guess my main point is that having a couple turnovers doesnt equate to the player sucks at basketball. No one on the team sucks. Our coach who is close to winning 900 games wouldn't recruit a player who sucks. He recruits the best.
 
Swish, IMO some (not all) of the negative posts on the main board are so over the top and presented so offensively that they're hard to ignore. Those posts are fair game for being called out. And when someone does take issue with one of those posts it doesn't automatically make them a "Pollyanna" and it isn't an attempt to create an environment where certain opinions are censored. But if you're truly comfortable with everything you read on this board, I guess we just have different standards for what is appropriate. Peace.


Can you please link up a post that you were personally offended by?
 
I am the greatest coach who ever lived. I am undefeated.

I recognize that part of the fun of discussing sports is to dissect the game and even suggest different approaches.

Furthermore, I understand the frustration of watching something that appears to be not working. I was screaming at the TV on Saturday to "get Scoop and Triche out of there"!

But suggesting that you --- albeit undefeated coaching D1 games --- have the answer and that JB doesn 't seems to me to be "nuts". You can't possibly take yourself that seriously.
 
I thought I would throw my 2 cents in. First as to the OP, there should be some crow eaten. Scoop had a great game. You want to post something like this be prepared to take the heat if you are speaking prematurely.

I don't mind having the opinion placed out there but it is a lightning rod for anti-Scoop, anti-JB bashing as people pile on. Predictably, the why can't he play MCW will come into play.

Can we as a fanbase acknowledge as a default that MCW will not be playing? Kind of like JB will play zone this tourney. We don't know all JBs reasons but we can agree it looks like he has made the decision not to play him this tourney based on his info.
In defense of JBs decision. First, this is not the time for development for future years. So if right now JB does not consider him in his top 3 there is no reason for SU to put out the 4th guard.
I keep hearing MCW couldn't be any worse. First off, yes he could, what you are saying is you don't think he would be worse. Second, what if it takes Scoop time to size up the competition, to understand what works against the player defending him. If you take Scoop out couldn't you be delaying the time it takes Scoop to figure it out?
Looks like JB is playing the experienced guards, so please think twice about posting "why doesn't he put MCW in, just for a few minutes".

As for the chat room, I didn't think it was bad. IMO, this is just where this OP should have aired. Jake wouldn't have had to eat nearly as much crow, nor see the error of his ways quoted a day later.

Congratualtions on the statement, " I keep hearing MCW couldn't be any worse. First off, yes he could, what you are saying is you don't think he would be worse. Second, what if it takes Scoop time to size up the competition, to understand what works against the player defending him. If you take Scoop out couldn't you be delaying the time it takes Scoop to figure it out?"
 
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