Seth Greenberg on Duke offense

[Alsacs]

Seth is right on the money. Coach K deserves criticism for the fact he has NBA talent and he can’t run a good offense.
We get on JB but he doesn’t have the talent K has wasted.

 

[Ghost]

I mean, if I knew my guys had NBA ready frames, and could commit offensive fouls like it was their job, I would tell them to just "get after it," as well.

 

[cuse10]

K has been complacent this season because of what Zion has allowed him to get away with. They were average at best when he missed games due to injury. It's a very tough task to take him away.

 

[General20]

Seth is right on the money. Coach K deserves criticism for the fact he has NBA talent and he can’t run a good offense.
We get on JB but he doesn’t have the talent K has wasted.

Seth had several fantastic tweets last night about the situation. I became a fan.

On Duke's final possession both Zion and Barrett pushed their UCF counterparts to the ground and neither got called. I keep coming back to the fact that is not a missed call, not really. Pushing someone to the ground gets called 100 times out of 100, and for good reason. Basketball becomes a pretty stupid game when you can do that.

Having it happen twice in one possession and neither get called really invalidates the outcome of the game and the tournament itself.

College basketball already has enough problems with the shady off the court machinations that funnels the best players to Duke and UK. They cant afford this. Nobody wants to watch a farce.

It's honestly a blessing that coach K Anand Cal are so bad at coaching. If Beileien, Wright, Boeheim or a couple others got that talent it would be like watching the Harlem Globe Trotters play the Washington Generals every game.

 

[Zepharus]

Seth had several fantastic tweets last night about the situation. I became a fan.

On Duke's final possession both Zion and Barrett pushed their UCF counterparts to the ground and neither got called. I keep coming back to the fact that is not a missed call, not really. Pushing someone to the ground gets called 100 times out of 100, and for good reason. Basketball becomes a pretty stupid game when you can do that.

Having it happen twice in one possession and neither get called really invalidates the outcome of the game and the tournament itself.

College basketball already has enough problems with the shady off the court machinations that funnels the best players to Duke and UK. They cant afford this. Nobody wants to watch a farce.

It's honestly a blessing that coach K Anand Cal are so bad at coaching. If Beileien, Wright, Boeheim or a couple others got that talent it would be like watching the Harlem Globe Trotters play the Washington Generals every game.

SPOT ON. Game is a farce now that its all out in the open and nothing is done

 

[PhatOrange]

any other player gets called for the charge. but but but Zion is so big. please.

 

[Millhouse]

Seth Greenberg went 3-11 against Duke fwiw

 

[bpo57]

An even bigger criticism of K in the game last night is the fact that Duke passed up several opportunities to foul Tacko Fall when UCF was in the bonus. Fall is a 36% FT shooter. That was coaching malpractice at its best.

 

[Newhouser]

He's going to get fired. He is forgetting that his current employer is in on the Duke, KY tilt in the game.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I really hope Buzz is smart enough to realize he doesn't need to guard Goldwire and Jones. Teams need to play high school Girard defense on Zion.

 

[pfister1]

Seth had several fantastic tweets last night about the situation. I became a fan.

On Duke's final possession both Zion and Barrett pushed their UCF counterparts to the ground and neither got called. I keep coming back to the fact that is not a missed call, not really. Pushing someone to the ground gets called 100 times out of 100, and for good reason. Basketball becomes a pretty stupid game when you can do that.

Having it happen twice in one possession and neither get called really invalidates the outcome of the game and the tournament itself.

College basketball already has enough problems with the shady off the court machinations that funnels the best players to Duke and UK. They cant afford this. Nobody wants to watch a farce.

It's honestly a blessing that coach K Anand Cal are so bad at coaching. If Beileien, Wright, Boeheim or a couple others got that talent it would be like watching the Harlem Globe Trotters play the Washington Generals every game.

That’s what happens when you sell your soul to the TV networks for every available penny. Funny thing: they expect compelling matchups in the games they paid top $ for, and that does not include a sweet 16 without Duke and Zion.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

He also said the Hook and Hold by DeDeusebag was reviewable if Dawkins had asked?

 

[sufandu]

I bet K and Cal before him that consistently get so many one and doners coach less offense now on purpose. The players don't have time to learn it before they leave. It's the teams that get the four year developmental players that will run better offenses.

I doubt K forgot how to coach. I think it has been a strategic decision to sacrifice coaching and development and ride the one and doner's talent. We've seen it work well for him with one NC so far and not so well with a couple early exits. It' a gamble.

 

[AZOrange]

Seth had several fantastic tweets last night about the situation. I became a fan.

On Duke's final possession both Zion and Barrett pushed their UCF counterparts to the ground and neither got called. I keep coming back to the fact that is not a missed call, not really. Pushing someone to the ground gets called 100 times out of 100, and for good reason. Basketball becomes a pretty stupid game when you can do that.

Having it happen twice in one possession and neither get called really invalidates the outcome of the game and the tournament itself.

College basketball already has enough problems with the shady off the court machinations that funnels the best players to Duke and UK. They cant afford this. Nobody wants to watch a farce.

It's honestly a blessing that coach K Anand Cal are so bad at coaching. If Beileien, Wright, Boeheim or a couple others got that talent it would be like watching the Harlem Globe Trotters play the Washington Generals every game.

I went back and looked again and Barrett’s push was not that egregious

 

[pfister1]

I went back and looked again and Barrett’s push was not that egregious

I thought Barrett’s rebound of the missed FT was as much attributable to a lazy box out as to an overt push.

I thought Zions foray into the lane was more questionable. Clearly he was fouled by Taco Bell, but I thought he bull rushed and pushed straight through the initial defender. I really have a hard time understanding what is a foul and what isn’t. Not to mention understanding whether the ambiguous rules that I don’t understand are being applied consistently, which I’m pretty certain they aren’t.

 

[Trueblue25]

Fact of the matter is Zion’s drive was either a charge or a block. Needs to be a whistle.

Barrett’s positioning on the rebound wasn’t a foul, looking back.

 

[cuse10]

I went back and looked again and Barrett’s push was not that egregious

Doesn't have to be egregious if you're already off of the ground. It's why pushing someone who's in the air on the fastbreak is seen as an ill intended move. There's no telling how far you'll be thrown off even with a simple touch.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Barrett didn’t commit the foul. Delaurier did by arm barring the UCF player preventing him from jumping.

 

[orangepassion]

https://nypost.com/2019/03/25/march-madness-outrage-after-blown-calls-help-duke-beat-ucf/

 

[RF2044]

https://nypost.com/2019/03/25/march-madness-outrage-after-blown-calls-help-duke-beat-ucf/

Pretty scathing.

 

[kingtidge]

any other player gets called for the charge. but but but Zion is so big. please.

Zion to the final four damn the torpedoes...

...So Nike can sell the new Zion "Air Flack Jacket" shoes for $1,750 a pair...

 

[81South]

Did y’all see how far the UCF guy ended up under the basket? He was pushed once airborne and had no shot at the rebound. The refs cannot swallow the whistle there. And Jones was riding the UCF guard on the last play...easily could have been called a foul. And of course there’s the Zion clearout going to the hoop. I almost never complain about the refs but I was pissed to see those kids get robbed in what was a very fun game to watch. Dawkins kid was very impressive.

 

[AZOrange]

Did y’all see how far the UCF guy ended up under the basket? He was pushed once airborne and had no shot at the rebound. The refs cannot swallow the whistle there. And Jones was riding the UCF guard on the last play...easily could have been called a foul. And of course there’s the Zion clearout going to the hoop. I almost never complain about the refs but I was pissed to see those kids get robbed in what was a very fun game to watch. Dawkins kid was very impressive.

If UCF doesn’t throw the ball away up 4 they probably win easily

 

[Madbiker]

Seth had several fantastic tweets last night about the situation. I became a fan.

On Duke's final possession both Zion and Barrett pushed their UCF counterparts to the ground and neither got called. I keep coming back to the fact that is not a missed call, not really. Pushing someone to the ground gets called 100 times out of 100, and for good reason. Basketball becomes a pretty stupid game when you can do that.

Having it happen twice in one possession and neither get called really invalidates the outcome of the game and the tournament itself.

College basketball already has enough problems with the shady off the court machinations that funnels the best players to Duke and UK. They cant afford this. Nobody wants to watch a farce.

It's honestly a blessing that coach K Anand Cal are so bad at coaching. If Beileien, Wright, Boeheim or a couple others got that talent it would be like watching the Harlem Globe Trotters play the Washington Generals every game.

Seth is entertaining and a good X and O analyst. But he drips with jealously and disdain for many of the coaches who dominated him during his coaching days inflicting beating after beating. That includes K and JB.

 

[kirbivore]

I really hope Buzz is smart enough to realize he doesn't need to guard Goldwire and Jones. Teams need to play high school Girard defense on Zion.

2010 NBA finals defense the Lakers used vs. Rondo