I don't think o'sully33 is overly excited about bringing in a guy like HW when we basically passed on him for over a year then only offered him once the 6 PGs on the 'Big Board" were no longer available. Many fans, myself included, would have been happier bringing in any of the following:There were not a lot of elite PG prospects, nor were there a lot of PGs who would fit this system. We could bring in Waters and you'd be happy for about 30 seconds. Once it's clear that he's undersized and a liability on defense, you'd go back to saying we can't find a PG.
Your first paragraph seems to contradict everything else you've said thus far. Shouldn't you be happy with signing Washington? Are you forgetting where Jardine was at in terms of development after his first two years? If not, how can you give up on Howard already?
Why can't we be good next year? Battle is a special player and everyone else will improve. If we can get a competent PG and the chemistry is good, we have enough athletes and a star player, it could be a solid squad next year.
There were not a lot of elite PG prospects, nor were there a lot of PGs who would fit this system. We could bring in Waters and you'd be happy for about 30 seconds. Once it's clear that he's undersized and a liability on defense, you'd go back to saying we can't find a PG.
Your first paragraph seems to contradict everything else you've said thus far. Shouldn't you be happy with signing Washington? Are you forgetting where Jardine was at in terms of development after his first two years? If not, how can you give up on Howard already?
Just a question what is our system?There were not a lot of elite PG prospects, nor were there a lot of PGs who would fit this system. We could bring in Waters and you'd be happy for about 30 seconds. Once it's clear that he's undersized and a liability on defense, you'd go back to saying we can't find a PG.
Your first paragraph seems to contradict everything else you've said thus far. Shouldn't you be happy with signing Washington? Are you forgetting where Jardine was at in terms of development after his first two years? If not, how can you give up on Howard already?
Nick Richards too...Just a question what is our system?
Any guard can play zone. We don't run a real offense. Our system isn't that hard. Gillon was a solid offensive option but he wasn't tall and good fit for the zone. However we took him.
We need talent. Fitting the 100% zone mantra is actually hurting with us some elite prospects see. Quinerly.
I brought up Howard Washington because Sully mentioned program guys.I don't think o'sully33 is overly excited about bringing in a guy like HW when we basically passed on him for over a year then only offered him once the 6 PGs on the 'Big Board" were no longer available. Many fans, myself included, would have been happier bringing in any of the following:
Quade Green
Isaiah Washington
Trevon Duval
Makai Ashton-Langford
Eric Ayala
To name a few.
It's going to be painful watching Isaiah Washington be a very good PG at Minnesota for 4 years. Monte Morris part 2.
I brought up Howard Washington because Sully mentioned program guys.
We were not going to bring in Ennis and Morris together, and Ennis was a better prospect at the time. Those of you who keep bringing up Morris are basically upset that we nailed the Ennis pick.
We were never going to get Duval. Same goes for Green once Kentucky got involved.
Isaiah Washington might be one of those undersized guys who doesn't fit in. Apparently the staff felt it was worth the risk by not getting involved with I. Washington or Coleman when they were going after Green.
Sounds like the staff contacted MAL, but they couldn't have been that interested since he wound up at Providence.
Ayala wants to stay in 2018. You're blaming the staff for that? Kid can do whatever he wants, it's his life.
Go ahead and name some more. I already spotted you Coleman.
Come on, dude, you know I'm talking about the 2-3. And you know the zone is better with bigger guards.Just a question what is our system?
Any guard can play zone. We don't run a real offense. Our system isn't that hard. Gillon was a solid offensive option but he wasn't tall and good fit for the zone. However we took him.
We need talent. Fitting the 100% zone mantra is actually hurting with us some elite prospects see. Quinerly.
Come on, dude, you know I'm talking about the 2-3. And you know the zone is better with bigger guards.
Gillon was brought in as a Vinnie Johnson-type and was forced into the starter's role out of necessity.
The zone isn't going away as long as JB's here. I don't see the point in these unicorn discussions. Go ahead and vent, but nothing's going to change.
What part of, "Once Kentucky got involved," did you not understand?Not sure I can say we were never going to get Green, considering he told the staff he was coming at one point.
If we brought in a Jonny Flynn like talent I think JB would consider switching to m2m in games we were getting torched.Come on, dude, you know I'm talking about the 2-3. And you know the zone is better with bigger guards.
Gillon was brought in as a Vinnie Johnson-type and was forced into the starter's role out of necessity.
The zone isn't going away as long as JB's here. I don't see the point in these unicorn discussions. Go ahead and vent, but nothing's going to change.
Here, dude, here.What do you mean by forced into the starters role by necessitity? He could have started for a number of teams last year.
What part of, "Once Kentucky got involved," did you not understand?
Here, dude, here.
I don't think o'sully33 is overly excited about bringing in a guy like HW when we basically passed on him for over a year then only offered him once the 6 PGs on the 'Big Board" were no longer available. Many fans, myself included, would have been happier bringing in any of the following:
Quade Green
Isaiah Washington
Trevon Duval
Makai Ashton-Langford
Eric Ayala
To name a few.
It's going to be painful watching Isaiah Washington be a very good PG at Minnesota for 4 years. Monte Morris part 2.
So basically this is the 2nd time a recruit has told GMac they were coming and it's more probable than not they are coming.I will corroborate Dasher's info. Ayala told us he was coming and his intent was to reclassify for this year.
Last I knew, it was unclear if he could reclassify.
Then he told people he could reclassify.
Now his recruitment is up in the air.
In part because Flynn insisted on it. But I'm glad you brought up Flynn, because it illustrates the issue with committing to guys who don't really fit in here. The 2009 team had a nice run in the BE tourney and a respectable Sweet 16 appearance, but it wasn't one of our better squads defensively. And we were a mess the year before.If we brought in a Jonny Flynn like talent I think JB would consider switching to m2m in games we were getting torched.
JB did it in 2009.
He wasn't forced into the position, he was our best option.
So basically this is the 2nd time a recruit has told GMac they were coming and it's more probable than not they are coming.
Is GMac getting solid "yes" or is our staff interrupting them as yes?
Clearly.Even when Uk got involved we had a good chance to get him.
Clearly.