Shafer can coach D

[kcsu]

Hate or love the guy is a heck of a DC

 

[dasher]

Hate or love the guy is a heck of a DC

Who said he couldn't?

 

[SURules]

It’s history, we need to move on to the future.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

He certainly can't recruit consistently.

 

[CanadianSU]

He certainly can't recruit.

That

 

[djorange1989]

Damn good DC. Greg Robinson has two Super Bowl rings as a DC. Neither could coach their way out of a paper bag when the head man.

 

[kcsu]

Who said he couldn't?

Not me

 

[Delmar]

But down 4 at the end of the game, he'd attempt a field goal.

 

[kcsu]

But down 4 at the end of the game, he'd attempt a field goal.

Not his call as the DC

 

[OrangeDW]

 

[PoppyHart]

10-15 in the first 2 years is pretty terrible.

 

[Fjoinkay]

MTSU, nice upset win dog! Good on ya!!!

 

[721Comstock]

Most people would agree, in general.

But then, GaTech, Clemson, and the FSU players playing hangman on the sideline might beg to differ.

 

[PAcuse]

If a Ward defense gave up 358 yards passing we would have 2-3 threads about firing him...

 

[Alsacs]

If a Ward defense gave up 358 yards passing we would have 2-3 threads about firing him...

Scott is exactly where he should be.
No expectations and thus he can do his thing.

 

[djorange1989]

Most people would agree, in general.

But then, GaTech, Clemson, and the FSU players playing hangman on the sideline might beg to differ.

Don’t forget Northwestern

 

[Cusefan69]

The desire by some to continuously create or talk about FHCSS borders on the pathological...time for folks on both sides of the fence to move on...

 

[Fjoinkay]

Most people would agree, in general.

But then, GaTech, Clemson, and the FSU players playing hangman on the sideline might beg to differ.

I don’t follow. What is this a reference to? Thanks.

 

[Trueblue25]

MTSU has 0 defensive commits for 2018

 

[Fjoinkay]

MTSU has 0 defensive commits for 2018

Que? Are you trying to make a point?

 

[TheCusian]

As DC: fiery, players coach, attack first, good guy

As HC: all that stuff + poor recruiting, bad assistant management, no plan on offense, and way too emotional for everything the job requires

 

[Fjoinkay]

As DC: fiery, players coach, attack first, good guy

As HC: all that stuff + poor recruiting, bad assistant management, no plan on offense, and way too emotional for everything the job requires

Thanks for sharing again. I can't wait for DB to turn this thing around so people will stop looking backwards. For me, I can root for a good guy DC, who did a great job here as DC, in his new job, and I can still love SU football. I'll be just as happy when DB turns this thing around as anyone else. I also can applaud former coaches who are doing really good things elsewhere.

 

[TheCusian]

Thanks for sharing again. I can't wait for DB to turn this thing around so people will stop looking backwards. For me, I can root for a good guy DC, who did a great job here as DC, in his new job, and I can still love SU football. I'll be just as happy when DB turns this thing around as anyone else. I also can applaud former coaches who are doing really good things elsewhere.

I was on board with wishing him well 100% until he had his guys fake injuries and then had the victory cigar. Bush league.

But whatever - DB is *already* better than SS and I’m looking forward.

EDIT: I also stand by my comment. He is a very good DC and was a subpar, flawed HC. That’s pretty much fact.

 

[HOFCeluck]

The desire by some to continuously create or talk about FHCSS borders on the pathological...

Doug Marrone

 

[nzm136]

Most of the criticisms levied against him as a HC ignore the reality of his situation.

He was hired very late in the cycle by an average team w/ a lot of holes in the coaching staff, and he didn't have a big budget. Promotions aside (i.e. Coach McF*ckit), he could only hire the people that he knew/was friends with (100% not his fault), and had worked at Michigan (not stealing anyone from them), Stanford (not stealing anyone from them), and MAC schools.

As such, he hired a MAC-level coaching staff, who couldn't hack it in the ACC. Then they went to a bowl in the 1st year. Mixing up the staff at that point would have been career suicide. What was he supposed to say, "hey thanks force quitting your job late in the cycle last year and then helping me reach a bowl ... now you're fired?" Nobody worth their salt would have worked for then after a move like that one.

And then he shook up the offense after the second year by hiring/promoting Lester, who made dramatic strides. But fHCSS was fired halfway through the year. What could anyone realistically expect the guy to do?

Throw in the fact that there was turmoil at the AD, so support for the coach and program were in question, and any strong external hires would have been extremely hesitant to jump aboard.

And lastly, it's worth mentioning that fHCSS' offense was better than Dino's in SS' last year vs Dino's first. They held onto the ball longer, and they scored more points per drive.

The truth is that fHCSS never had a legitimate chance.

All of the above said, I think that Dino is a great coach, and I'm confident that he will win here within the next two years.