Students No Show

[upperdeck]

I know down here the same issue with kids is happening. maybe its a youth thing

 

[JRHEETER]

did they sell seats or location to the students up top?

They have technically sold tickets to every single seat that they have reserved in the student sections

Including the 300 level

 

[Dick_in_MI]

For starters, students aren’t obligated to go to games or even care about the team for that matter.

I know lots of adults who aren’t as rabid anymore due to the portal and NIL. They watch the games, they may go to the games, but when the game is over, they don’t give it much thought. When the season is over, they no longer give it any thought at all.

These days, the major sports athletes get a free academic ride and, in addition, are paid a lot of $$$ while non-athletes rack up student loans. A lot of schools create athletic dorms and other facilities plus majors aimed at student-athletes. Toss in the fact that the players move in and out of the portal so much and it is likely hard for the average student to feel any affinity for the guys playing the games.

Do the teams represent the school and thus should be rooted for by the student body? Only to a point. As much as I bled Orange as a townie and as an SU student and SU grad, I never bought into that argument much. I rooted for them because they were my team. I never felt that they were representing me nor the education I received at all.

And that is a healthy thing.

When you go to college, watching the sports teams is merely one more thing to take advantage of if you so choose. It’s hardly a requirement however, nor should it be. I honestly pass no judgement whatsoever on SU students that choose to do something else with their time on Saturdays.

 

[upperdeck]

They have technically sold tickets to every single seat that they have reserved in the student sections

Including the 300 level

I know but did the sell them all as assigned seats? Like did the sell seats in the lower level and just gener admission in the upper?

Still hard to see how thousands of kids didnt show up for tickets they bought?

 

[tptcuse]

For starters, students aren’t obligated to go to games or even care about the team for that matter.

I know lots of adults who aren’t as rabid anymore due to the portal and NIL. They watch the games, they may go to the games, but when the game is over, they don’t give it much thought. When the season is over, they no longer give it any thought at all.

These days, the major sports athletes get a free academic ride and, in addition, are paid a lot of $$$ while non-athletes rack up student loans. A lot of schools create athletic dorms and other facilities plus majors aimed at student-athletes. Toss in the fact that the players move in and out of the portal so much and it is likely hard for the average student to feel any affinity for the guys playing the games.

Do the teams represent the school and thus should be rooted for by the student body? Only to a point. As much as I bled Orange as a townie and as an SU student and SU grad, I never bought into that argument much. I rooted for them because they were my team. I never felt that they were representing me nor the education I received at all.

And that is a healthy thing.

When you go to college, watching the sports teams is merely one more thing to take advantage of if you so choose. It’s hardly a requirement however, nor should it be. I honestly pass no judgement whatsoever on SU students that choose to do something else with their time on Saturdays.

I agree with not passing judgment on the students. We can certainly pass judgment on how the university handles the next two games when they know the academic calendar means that most students will not be there.

 

[JRHEETER]

I know but did the sell them all as assigned seats? Like did the sell seats in the lower level and just gener admission in the upper?

Still hard to see how thousands of kids didnt show up for tickets they bought?

No it’s never sold that way

It’s first come first serve

 

[JRHEETER]

For starters, students aren’t obligated to go to games or even care about the team for that matter.

I know lots of adults who aren’t as rabid anymore due to the portal and NIL. They watch the games, they may go to the games, but when the game is over, they don’t give it much thought. When the season is over, they no longer give it any thought at all.

These days, the major sports athletes get a free academic ride and, in addition, are paid a lot of $$$ while non-athletes rack up student loans. A lot of schools create athletic dorms and other facilities plus majors aimed at student-athletes. Toss in the fact that the players move in and out of the portal so much and it is likely hard for the average student to feel any affinity for the guys playing the games.

Do the teams represent the school and thus should be rooted for by the student body? Only to a point. As much as I bled Orange as a townie and as an SU student and SU grad, I never bought into that argument much. I rooted for them because they were my team. I never felt that they were representing me nor the education I received at all.

And that is a healthy thing.

When you go to college, watching the sports teams is merely one more thing to take advantage of if you so choose. It’s hardly a requirement however, nor should it be. I honestly pass no judgement whatsoever on SU students that choose to do something else with their time on Saturdays.

This is less on the students and more on school for taking seats away from your long term fans to give to the students who aren’t showing up

 

[NJCuse97]

there is not much demand in the main sections either.

You could i supposed sell the top 10 rows in the student area with little concern. maybe they go back to that?

Is the school actually doing anything to figure out the problem? Like send people out and talk to kids?

I look at it like the current office real estate market. No landlord is going to work too hard to help a tenant sublease their office because all the employees are remote. What do they care about an empty space if they have a signed lease? Now if the tenant stops paying rent, they will likely work on a plan to get SOMETHING like a reduced rent with a plan to return to normal later, or an effort to help a sublease to cover some of the loss. But in the case of student seats, why would they spend time and effort (money) to risk losing their already funded seats? If the demand is there, wouldn’t the students want to resell at a profit rather than let the school do that? If someone wanted to sublet my office for more than my rent, I sure wouldn’t hand that profit back to the landlord. Something at issue is that they are not allowed to resell their seats because they are subsidized by the school through student fees. It would be like making a profit by selling gameday parking in your neighbor’s driveway.

 

[007]

I know but did the sell them all as assigned seats? Like did the sell seats in the lower level and just gener admission in the upper?

Still hard to see how thousands of kids didnt show up for tickets they bought?

The students tickets are sold as student tickets, no assigned seats. The first kids there get to sit in the lower level. The overflow is sent to the upper level. There are also a group of students that purchased regular tickets because the student season ticket section sold out.

 

[Dick_in_MI]

This is less on the students and more on school for taking seats away from your long term fans to give to the students who aren’t showing up

Fair point and I agree

 

[upperdeck]

No it’s never sold that way

It’s first come first serve

thats what I wondered.

 

[JRHEETER]

Fair point and I agree

I’m with ya on not beating the students down

Their entitled to do whatever. If you want to show up great.

But it’s become very apparent that Syracuse overestimated how many sections to give the students.

That needs to be looked at and altered for next season

 

[hoopsupstate]

Since SU is not is session for the final two games, are those two games even part of the season ticket package for students?

 

[grepal]

You can't really expect 18-21 year old students to be overly execited over a product that has been bad for 20+years.
Sure I would like them to become lifelong fans but when I was their age I was in the military, and quite wild.
As the product gets better some of them will come around and bring their friends.

No excuse I went to SU in the late 70's when we were in Playboys bottom 25. Was thrilled for the re- birth, upending Nebraska, but I never missed a home game and went on a few road trips. I think the wokeness at SU attracts alot of kids who could care less about athletics. Just my opinion, who knows.

 

[JRHEETER]

Since SU is not is session for the final two games, are those two games even part of the season ticket package for students?

Yes they were

 

[baggerbob]

For starters, students aren’t obligated to go to games or even care about the team for that matter.

I know lots of adults who aren’t as rabid anymore due to the portal and NIL. They watch the games, they may go to the games, but when the game is over, they don’t give it much thought. When the season is over, they no longer give it any thought at all.

These days, the major sports athletes get a free academic ride and, in addition, are paid a lot of $$$ while non-athletes rack up student loans. A lot of schools create athletic dorms and other facilities plus majors aimed at student-athletes. Toss in the fact that the players move in and out of the portal so much and it is likely hard for the average student to feel any affinity for the guys playing the games.

Do the teams represent the school and thus should be rooted for by the student body? Only to a point. As much as I bled Orange as a townie and as an SU student and SU grad, I never bought into that argument much. I rooted for them because they were my team. I never felt that they were representing me nor the education I received at all.

And that is a healthy thing.

When you go to college, watching the sports teams is merely one more thing to take advantage of if you so choose. It’s hardly a requirement however, nor should it be. I honestly pass no judgement whatsoever on SU students that choose to do something else with their time on Saturdays.

A voice of reason, thank you

 

[Bayside44]

Well, what if they talked to the students that have tickets, since they have their emails, and offered them an option to exchange their seats or something similar?

I’m sure they could make something like this work and then they could put tickets back into inventory because again students don’t have assigned seats just assigned sections

Historically the ticket package doesn't extend to when the kids are on break. BUT, that's apparently changed.

 

[JRHEETER]

Historically the ticket package doesn't extend to when the kids are on break.

I can assure you that the season ticket packages for the last several years has included every single home game including the ones on break

 

[Bayside44]

I can assure you that the season ticket packages for the last several years has included every single home game including the ones on break

You are right and I am older than I realized.

 

[JRHEETER]

You are right and I am older than I realized.

It would be nice if they still did that policy

Would come in handy for a season like this year with two home games while the students are on break

 

[SUFaninNJ]

I was at game. God I wish I took a picture. Around 3 people in the upper deck the whole game and they probably weren’t students.

This was pretty much at the peak of yesterday’s attendance in the 3rd deck.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

At least it's not shiny aluminum.

The empty seats would’ve looked better in orange.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I think I may have found a thread type I dislike more than attendance threads.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

They won’t be at Miami and Uconn

That’s thanksgiving break. The students won’t be around.

The university no longer has class that Monday and Tuesday? I remember being a student professors warning kids not to go home early for Thanksgiving and that they'd have to show up those days.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

I’m so torn on student seating.

There have been so many times in the last few years where you NEED that many seats for the students, but same goes on the other hand where you need half the seats.

Can’t fix the leaving at half. That’s college kids everywhere

But i think you need to scan in and scan out & use time in building for whatever it is they’ll want the most. Tickets don’t work.

Scan each student in and they earn hours. So for a noon kickoff start the clock (regardless if they’re in before) at 11am and end it at say 4pm. If you stay the whole game you don’t have to scan out and you earned 5 hours. Leave early? You get what you get (noon scan to 230 is 2.5 hours)

Build a system to use the hours for certain things. Priority seating for MBB, courtside seats, FB priority seating, etc

Also I am so sorry for so many of you who had to look at your unused season ticket location from 2023 from wherever you are in the building now. That sucks

Interesting idea. I’m always sad to seat my old seat unused. That being said, your aunt wasn’t using her seat yesterday, so I used her ticket instead. Quite the upgrade!