Syracuse hiring Alex Kline as GM

[Millhouse]

Are you talking about deploying analytics for in-game strategy? Or a broader application?

In terms of the latter, that's where the analytics staff for pro franchises tend to earn their keep. For example, the Red Sox have a large analytics staff. Much of their work is focused on player projection and forecasting. Not just current Sox, or MLB players, but the 20 year olds playing for Vanderbilt or winter ball in Mexico, or guys in the Dominican league. If you hit on a couple players that end up being productive major leaguers it justifies the expense of an analytics team, sometimes by multiples.

In the case of basketball I think the true analytical skill is deciphering individual performance in a sport that's very much a team game. There's no better example of that right now than Lampkin. He's doing for us what he did for Colorado. Except there he had 3 NBA-caliber players surrounding him. Our evaluation of him was bad, because we didn't properly distinguish his value on a team that would have far less talent.

I suspect the hope is that Kline and his team make us much better in that aspect of projections and forecasting.

In-game strategy is whole other kettle of fish, IMHO.

See , I don't see how analytics are part of Lampkin. He was fat there and he's fat here and he rebounds there and rebounds here. I guess there could be some fancy analytics to communicate to autry that lampkin doesn't matter if you have terrible shooters shooting all the time and a 5'6 pg who can't get by people

I'm also skeptical of the red Sox analytical minds giving bregman that much money. (He's close to washed up) When there is so many obvious easy mistakes, it's hard for me to believe they're doing groundbreaking stuff privately.

If the front of house is dirty, I assume the kitchen is worse.

Syracuse loves to forecast that players who can't shoot will learn how to. I want them to get out of the forecasting business

 

[Scooch]

See , I don't see how analytics are part of Lampkin. He was fat there and he's fat here and he rebounds there and rebounds here. I guess there could be some fancy analytics to communicate to autry that lampkin doesn't matter if you have terrible shooters shooting all the time and a 5'6 pg who can't get by people

I'm also skeptical of the red Sox analytical minds giving bregman that much money. (He's close to washed up) When there is so many obvious easy mistakes, it's hard for me to believe they're doing groundbreaking stuff privately.

If the front of house is dirty, I assume the kitchen is worse.

Syracuse loves to forecast that players who can't shoot will learn how to. I want them to get out of the forecasting business

OK, so you're in favor of scrapping all data. Noted.

 

[wiCuse]

Dan E was SPECIFICALLY brought in here to teach defense. If anyone is gone next year it’s him

At what point do we hold the person accountable that hires the assistants and put this team together? Dan E isn't a DC in football. Who is responsible for the lack of identity, sub patterns, etc...

 

[tptcuse]

So, what's the deal with that that? I heard Engelsted was supposed to be good defensive coach. Is he actually responsible for teaching defense here? And did he live up to expectations? Does he know his stuff, or can he not communicate it?

Just checked Engelstad's head coaching record, and he had a losing record for 5 of 6 seasons at Mount St. Mary's. Total record 72-109. I'm guessing that's why he quit to take an assistant job. He did better at Southern Vermont previously.

Oh cool! A sacrificial lamb.

 

[Chip]

I'll spell it out - there are people on this board that think Red should keep his job going into the 25/26 season because they think Kline is some sort of savant.

You seem to have an issue with both of them. Red, I get it, this season is horrific. But what's with the shots at Kline? He hasn't much of a chance yet.

 

[phil77]

Oh cool! A sacrificial lamb.

Yup this, NIL, and we got Kline now will be the offseason.

 

[orangefog]

Dan E was SPECIFICALLY brought in here to teach defense. If anyone is gone next year it’s him

I agree, but I would also not mind Griff being gone. I know he is family, but I think we can do a lot better.