Talent , talent , Talent

[Red2003]

And Lampkin will be the second fiddle of a .500 team while Brown is a "piece" of a national contender.

Your blatant hate of Eddie is confusing. Please tell me who we should’ve gotten at the 5 in the portal that would be better?

If you’re just upset with SU’s NIL situation not competing with the Blue Bloods just say that.

 

[tptcuse]

And Lampkin will be the second fiddle of a .500 team while Brown is a "piece" of a national contender.

Man, I wish you were at the games this weekend. It is really hard not to root for Eddie after seeing him in person. He is clearly hurt but still shows the most fight of anyone on the team and is totally involved, even when he is not playing. I can't remember the last time we had someone who fought so hard and showed so much passion. He's averaging 12 and 8 and I expect those numbers to keep growing.

 

[two3zone]

Lol they always seem more attractive after they leave you

Lol? Nobody wanted Brown to leave don't try to start some BS false narrative.

 

[two3zone]

Man, I wish you were at the games this weekend. It is really hard not to root for Eddie after seeing him in person. He is clearly hurt but still shows the most fight of anyone on the team and is totally involved, even when he is not playing. I can't remember the last time we had someone who fought so hard and showed so much passion. He's averaging 12 and 8 and I expect those numbers to keep growing.

I do root for him, but that layup line he allows gets ignored because he rocks a fake baby when we're down 5. Whatever, it's exciting, but the points he gives up are more maddening and it's sad people ignore it because he's smiles. His game against TT was awful.

 

[Red2003]

Hate? Because he is awful at defense it's hate? Just stop with the gaslighting bs, prove your point without the extra bs.

have you read your own posts? Your non-answer who you think would be better says it all.

 

[Trueblue25]

Lol? Nobody wanted Brown to leave don't try to start some BS false narrative.

Of course no one wanted him to leave. But he did, and I’m not going to pretend he’s more of an impact than he was/is. Its revisionist history. He was a fourth or so option on a bad syracuse team. He’s a good defender, never going to dispute that. But he couldn’t create and he hardly, if ever, took charge when games were going off the rails. Was always Judah, Chris, JJ or Q for better or worse.

 

[tptcuse]

I do root for him, but that layup line he allows gets ignored because he rocks a fake baby when we're down 5. Whatever, it's exciting, but the points he gives up are more maddening and it's sad people ignore it because he's smiles. His game against TT was awful.

He had a rough game against Texas Tech, no doubt. I miss the olden days when we could just blame everything on Jesse Edwards' dad.

 

[two3zone]

have you read your own posts? Your non-answer who you think would be better says it all.

Non answer about what? I'd take Brown 100 out of 100 times over Lampkin. If Brown smiled more people would be a lot more upset, look at Copeland, you'd think he was Magic Johnson the way he was loved and he wasn't that good.

You want to build a winner, your best or second best player isn't Eddie Lampkin.

 

[two3zone]

He had a rough game against Texas Tech, no doubt. I miss the olden days when we could just blame everything on Jesse Edwards' dad.

He's allowed bad games and it was a tough match up for him, but people are acting like he left Brooklyn a star when in all reality he had a few good stretches and made some unbelievable plays for a team that went 0-2 and he played a really rough game 2 and poor defense in both.

I guess others saw different, oh well.

 

[grepal]

Your blatant hate of Eddie is confusing. Please tell me who we should’ve gotten at the 5 in the portal that would be better?

If you’re just upset with SU’s NIL situation not competing with the Blue Bloods just say that.

I think kiddie is a wonderful teammate. Infectious personality and smile, skilled player. It is a shame so many fans here judge him while he is playing hurt. If the team was winning and he was diminished but playing hurt most of the haters would call him a warrior.

 

[Tony DeFranco]

Yeah, unfortunately, this team just doesn't have the horses. People wanted to believe the early games were a fluke but I don't think that will prove to be the case.

I feel like Starling, Freeman, Moore and Lampkin are well more than enough to blow out Colgate, Lemoyne and Youngstown St

 

[GHLF]

I have seen a few people post on here that coach Red did a great job last year winning 20 games but seems to have regressed this year and he is using weird lineup combinations.. Ill get to this in a few minutes .
First This false pretense that the free throw shooting is going to kill them. I defy anybody to go back to the first two final four teams we had and other than Jimmy Lee find one really good free throw shooter. For instance bug Williams shot like 50 percent for a whole year while playing the point guard. The 87 team was brick layers convention, I mean Derrick Brower could start a fast break for the other team by hitting the backboard or the front of the rim on a free throw he shoot like 40 percent for the year and having it bounce out to half court(ok that's kind of an exaggeration), Herman harried was maybe a little better and Stevie Thompson one of the top 20 players in school history was like 50 percent and had the some of the worst form possible and he was a Mcdonalds All American

Which brings me back to my first point Red is not a worse coach this year the guys he has at point guard are no where near as good a point guard as Judah was. Losing a player like Brown who is better than a anyone who so far has replaced him is an issue.

The teams in the past could get past things like bad free throw shooting or being poor rebounding or not being able to hit three's all the time because point blank the talent was way better. There not going to miss the tourney by being a bad free throw shooting team or being inconsistent on 3's They are going to miss because they don't have enough talent to overcome those things .

The 87 team could put Brower out there and watch him clank free throws because they had two of the best big men in school history to make up for that.

You have to have talent to make a run to the tourney and be hot at the right time. will that happen this year , you never know but the 2 freshman need to play like there stars as does JJ. Im not thinking its going to happen but stranger things have happened.

This team has way less talent than last year, and that team was a dumpster fire in every way. Red has done a tremendous job, I trust he will keep the team together in heart, hit the portal hard for a bigger PG who can defend and distribute as well as a Center that can play 20 min. We need 2-3 high quality transfer soldiers with incoming class. If we get better defensively we will be back if we commit defensively and we will. I would recommend that JJ redshirt personally. Can he still?

 

[JuiceMeUp]

This team has way less talent than last year, and that team was a dumpster fire in every way. Red has done a tremendous job, I trust he will keep the team together in heart, hit the portal hard for a bigger PG who can defend and distribute as well as a Center that can play 20 min. We need 2-3 high quality transfer soldiers with incoming class. If we get better defensively we will be back if we commit defensively and we will. I would recommend that JJ redshirt personally. Can he still?

Genuinely cannot tell if this is sarcasm or not

 

[GHLF]

Genuinely cannot tell if this is sarcasm or not

That is almost like saying are you intellectual or not, which one is it, sarcasm or truth? Either way I apologize, I pass on both

 

[Scott11]

Brown was and is ridiculously overrated by this board. I’ll take Lampkin all day. Browns not getting time over Freeman either.

The issue’s at guard and the rotations imo

I don’t know what you’ve seen to make you think Lampkin is more valuable than Brown. Call me crazy but I like guys who are in shape, play good defense and are available for more than 3 to 4 minutes at a time. And if we ever made the ACC tournament would be available to play in back-to-back games.

 

[Trueblue25]

I don’t know what you’ve seen to make you think Lampkin is more valuable than Brown. Call me crazy but I like guys who are in shape, play good defense and are available for more than 3 to 4 minutes at a time. And if we ever made the ACC tournament would be available to play in back-to-back games.

We are just as crappy, if not more crappy with Brown instead of Lampkin.

Brown is undersized, does not pass nearly as well as Lampkin, and cannot finish as well as Lampkin. Brown is an opportunistic rebounder, not an instinctual space eater that eats up boards. He’s a better defender, thats it.

Brown looks like a comparable player only because he’s asked to do 10% as much.

This really shouldnt be a debate. I get that everyones upset with Eddies conditioning and overall team performance but this is just off.

 

[two3zone]

We are just as crappy, if not more crappy with Brown instead of Lampkin.

Brown is undersized, does not pass nearly as well as Lampkin, and cannot finish as well as Lampkin. Brown is an opportunistic rebounder, not an instinctual space eater that eats up boards. He’s a better defender, thats it.

Brown looks like a comparable player only because he’s asked to do 10% as much.

This really shouldnt be a debate. I get that everyones upset with Eddies conditioning and overall team performance but this is just off.

 

[Sdot]

We are just as crappy, if not more crappy with Brown instead of Lampkin.

Brown is undersized, does not pass nearly as well as Lampkin, and cannot finish as well as Lampkin. Brown is an opportunistic rebounder, not an instinctual space eater that eats up boards. He’s a better defender, thats it.

Brown looks like a comparable player only because he’s asked to do 10% as much.

This really shouldnt be a debate. I get that everyones upset with Eddies conditioning and overall team performance but this is just off.

I like both guys would of been great if we had both playing together but…when you say we are just as crappy if we had Brown, I don’t think your being fair about if brown was to play 40 minutes a night here compared to Eddie playing 25 minutes a night.

 

[Trueblue25]

I like both guys would of been great if we had both playing together but…when you say we are just as crappy if we had Brown, I don’t think your being fair about if brown was to play 40 minutes a night here compared to Eddie playing 25 minutes a night.

Nothing about Brown’s career leads me to believe 40 mins from him would have us with one more win right now. The problems we have are deeper and more numerous. My point is our issue’s not Lampkin. I still view him as a bright spot, honestly.

The lack of ball handlers, any sort of defensive cohesion and motor from this team leads me to believe that the issues coaching. We could use smarter players, in better shape, but its clear that the coaches are underqualified.

 

[Trueblue25]

The hypocrisy!

 

[Sdot]

Nothing about Brown’s career leads me to believe 40 mins from him would have us with one more win right now. The problems we have are deeper and more numerous. My point is our issue’s not Lampkin. I still view him as a bright spot, honestly.

The lack of ball handlers, any sort of defensive cohesion and motor from this team leads me to believe that the issues coaching. We could use smarter players, in better shape, but its clear that the coaches are underqualified.

I agree Eddie has been really good ecspecially being hurt. I’m making the point Eddie not playing as much having a backup in is worse then if Brown was here playing 40 minutes a game.

 

[Trueblue25]

I agree Eddie has been really good ecspecially being hurt. I’m making the point Eddie not playing as much having a backup in is worse then if Brown was here playing 40 minutes a game.

Thats fine and probably true then. I don’t think Lampkin would play that much even if he could though. The rotations of subs is a top issue to me

 

[Sdot]

Thats fine and probably true then. I don’t think Lampkin would play that much even if he could though. The rotations of subs is a top issue to me

I just don’t know who we can put in center to grab some minutes to backup Eddie. I guess Davis?

 

[Trueblue25]

I just don’t know who we can put in center to grab some minutes to backup Eddie. I guess Davis?

Has to be. No one else gives us a chance to score as much as we give.

 

[Funk Doc]

Judah(who did not make the team better), was such a talented individual player, that he masked so many problems this team had last year. His ability to get into the lane and draw fouls kept us in games. Lipstick on a pig!!!

This year, there are only 5 people I would even allow on the floor. Lampkin, Freeman, Davis, JJ(For now Taylor just because he actually tries to play defense), and Moore is my new PG(don't love him there, but without JJ he's the only one even close...and even then JJ isn't a point either). If Bell makes his first couple shots, then he can play too. If he misses a couple he becomes a head case and needs to sit.

This team needs a PG BAD!!!!