Texas A&M boosters paying $30M NIL

[721Comstock]

We all saw this coming right?

It's been there all along.

It was just (somewhat) hidden under the table before.

 

[sufandu]

Great to see that the corruption by the NCAA has morphed to a new level! The mafia could take lessons in corruption from them!

This time it's not the NCAA. They did what everyone wanted them to and this is the result. It's exactly what more than a few of us predicted.

 

[sufandu]

It's been there all along.

It was just (somewhat) hidden under the table before.

And it was suppressed to an extent too. Now that there are legal means to do it, the numbers are and will continue to be much bigger than they were when it was in secret.

 

[NJCuse97]

And it was suppressed to an extent too. Now that there are legal means to do it, the numbers are and will continue to be much bigger than they were when it was in secret.

I have to ask, not that the answer really matters, but doesn’t this just put a spotlight on all the schools that were doing this all along? Doesn’t this vindicate all of us who complained we were unfairly targeted by the NCAA and there were obvious other schools that needed to be investigated? Shouldn’t the schools abusing the NIL still be the schools the NCAA focuses on as being most likely to play outside the rules?

 

[jgeorge322]

you could solve the problem in one way by all the money being spent going into one huge pot split among all the players and no one person getting paid by them selves. but who would want sports to be about something other than money

This is exactly what should have been done. Money should be put into trust and players get more interests in the trust for the more years they play. You could even offer incremental interests for performance and/or achievements. The money could be paid out over time because I don’t think its a great idea for college kids to have abundance of money.

 

[rrlbees]

you could solve the problem in one way by all the money being spent going into one huge pot split among all the players and no one person getting paid by them selves. but who would want sports to be about something other than money

The problem with that is all these millions being spent by boosters would probably dry up. They may put up a million dollars to entice players to their team, but I doubt they’re putting up that million to benefit everyone.

 

[rrlbees]

I have to ask, not that the answer really matters, but doesn’t this just put a spotlight on all the schools that were doing this all along? Doesn’t this vindicate all of us who complained we were unfairly targeted by the NCAA and there were obvious other schools that needed to be investigated? Shouldn’t the schools abusing the NIL still be the schools the NCAA focuses on as being most likely to play outside the rules?

Yes

 

[sufandu]

I have to ask, not that the answer really matters, but doesn’t this just put a spotlight on all the schools that were doing this all along? Doesn’t this vindicate all of us who complained we were unfairly targeted by the NCAA and there were obvious other schools that needed to be investigated? Shouldn’t the schools abusing the NIL still be the schools the NCAA focuses on as being most likely to play outside the rules?

I suppose it may put a spotlight on them. But, under the current rules, are they really abusing NIL? So many people wanted the athletes to be paid. That always meant that the schools with the wealthiest and most willing boosters were going to ensure their athletes got the best deals and that all the recruits knew it. The NCAA really can't place limits on it, because it's now established the athletes own their NIL. Pandora's box has been opened.

 

[All4SU]

And it was suppressed to an extent too. Now that there are legal means to do it, the numbers are and will continue to be much bigger than they were when it was in secret.

They’re going to have to start putting pockets on the players’ uniforms.

 

[sufandu]

This is exactly what should have been done. Money should be put into trust and players get more interests in the trust for the more years they play. You could even offer incremental interests for performance and/or achievements. The money could be paid out over time because I don’t think its a great idea for college kids to have abundance of money.

But that goes against the reasoning behind NIL. The idea is that the athletes own their name, image, and likeness and, as adults, should not be restricted from benefiting financially from them. It was obvious that schools and boosters would take full advantage of the new environment to lure athletes.

That said, I agree that these guys suddenly making huge sums of money would probably be detrimental to many of them and that this is a slippery slope big time college athletics as placed itself on.

 

[zjscuse]

That's the problem facing SU in my opinion. Do we have enough donors to upgrade facilities and fund players...not sold we do.

I mean do we even want to? Honestly at this point the circus is out of control and I don’t want to see us become as dirty as an sec school. At the end of the day it’s just a game called football.. we don’t need the source of pride and identity like they do down south. It’s fun game but it’s just not even about the school anymore. It’s more about these donors egos lol.

 

[Niastri]

The schools ought to be offering financial planners on retainer to help the kids not be morons with their money.

 

[Bayside44]

The schools ought to be offering financial planners on retainer to help the kids not be morons with their money.

Yeah, how they send it to their family and friends…

 

[Horn88]

Alabama started High Tide Tradition earlier this month which is a third party NIL Collective. I doubt the numbers ever get made public but early rumor is over $40M pledged so far.

 

[cusefan88]

I'm curious to know if alums will continue to fund facilities and stadium expansions too or if this is a shift to players.

 

[sufandu]

This is not what everyone wanted; this is more of the same ego driven greed that benefits a few while harming the mass of student athletes!
None of the true power players, college presidents, complain they are complicit along with corrupt politicians who are paid off to look the other way when corruption is obvious!

A lot of people wanted athletes to own and benefit from their name image and likeness. Everytime Bilas championed it he was cheered. What we have is the obvious and predictable current outcome. You could look back at my posts about it, and I said that this would happen almost exactly.

And now that the athletes own their name, image, and likeness it's not corrupt. It's within the rules. People that pushed for this did not care about competitve balance which is what I think you're talking about and is why I thought it was a bad idea. Oh well, we're in a free market now.

 

[sufandu]

I'm curious to know if alums will continue to fund facilities and stadium expansions too or if this is a shift to players.

They'll fund whatever keeps them on top and whatever the AD says will help them get players and win games.

 

[Bayside44]

They'll fund whatever keeps them on top and whatever the AD says will help them get players and win games.

Maybe. Brick and mortar is a lot different than paying a teenage wide receiver.

 

[All4SU]

A lot of people wanted athletes to own and benefit from their name image and likeness. Everytime Bilas championed it he was cheered. What we have is the obvious and predictable current outcome. You could look back my posts about it, and I said that this would happen almost exactly.

And now that the athletes own their name, image, and likeness it's not corrupt. It's within the rules. People that pushed for this did not care about competitve balance which is what I think you're talking about and is why I thought it was a bad idea. Oh well, we're in a free market now.

There’s a difference between NIL and just simply bankrolling players.

 

[jgeorge322]

But that goes against the reasoning behind NIL. The idea is that the athletes own their name, image, and likeness and, as adults, should not be restricted from benefiting financially from them. It was obvious that schools and boosters would take full advantage of the new environment to lure athletes.

That said, I agree that these guys suddenly making huge sums of money would probably be detrimental to many of them and that this is a slippery slope big time college athletics as placed itself on.

Im saying I don’t like the NIL and that a different model should have been used.

 

[sufandu]

Maybe. Brick and mortar is a lot different than paying a teenage wide receiver.

They've already been paying for frivolous facility upgrades. We probably will see some putting greens sacrificed in the name of funneling money to players, but the wealthy schools will still ensure that practice facilities, nutrition oriented aspects of facilities, locker rooms, etc are well funded. Before, schools had to work hard to find a way to spend money they really didn't need. Now the boosters will just send a portion to players while ensuring facilities remain top notch. If boosters think a school will snatch up a 5 star guy because they're falling behind in facilities, they'll pony up.

 

[sufandu]

Im saying I don’t like the NIL and that a different model should have been used.

That's fair. But athletes wanted to benefit from their own name, image, and likeness without restriction. And the legal arguments for it were mounting. So this was the waynit was going to go. And the universities still don't have to consider them employees or justify paying football players more than softball players.

 

[Bayside44]

They've already been paying for frivolous facility upgrades. We probably will see some putting greens sacrificed in the name of funneling money to players, but the wealthy schools will still ensure that practice facilities, nutrition oriented aspects of facilities, locker rooms, etc are well funded. Before, schools had to work hard to find a way to spend money they really didn't need. Now the boosters will just send a portion to players while ensuring facilities remain top notch. If boosters think a school will snatch up a 5 star guy because they're falling behind in facilities, they'll pony up.

The hotbeds sure. A place like Syracuse not so sure. Donations here are just to get facilities that are in the game.

 

[sufandu]

There’s a difference between NIL and just simply bankrolling players.

In theory. But if I own a business, I can pay someone whatever I want to endorse my business. And if someone decides to invest in my business so that I can do that, they're allowed to. It doesn't matter that it's bad business. Or if I want to buy 10,000 shirts with my starting QBs name on it and make sure every 5 star QB recruit knows I'll do this for the starting QB of my team, I can.

The athletes own their name, image, and likeness. This was the way it was always going to go. It's no more ridiculous than Lebron James signing the crazy Nike contract he did coming out of high school. The difference here is that it creates/exacerbates competitive imbalance, which is something that should exist to some extent in college sports. I don't like it, but I expected it. I'm surprised anyone has been caught off guard by it. Thinking that these guys were gonna just sign endorsement deals for a few extra bucks with their local grocery stores, was always foolish thinking.

 

[sufandu]

The hotbeds sure. A place like Syracuse not so sure. Donations here are just to get facilities that are in the game.

Oh, absolutely. I'm referring to the factories. SU is going to be left behind. The chasm will get exponentially wider.