Texas A&M boosters paying $30M NIL

[OttoinGrotto]

I don't pay attention to this stuff so forgive my ignorance to it in advance...but why can't NIL and any of this money be capped? Maximum earnings on images and likenesses to keep it fair and balanced?

Tell me another circumstance where someone has a cap on how much they can make from their own identity?

 

[PhatOrange]

Tell me another circumstance where someone has a cap on how much they can make from their own identity?

There are salary caps. MLB? Cap isn't for the individual it's for the collective. You can say each team of 85 players can make no more than X amount. Divide it up however you want. Much like a team allotted 12 scholarships for a roster of 50 players.

 

[Cuse#1]

This is what I mean when I say that this is a very serious problem for Syracuse. I am not sure we will survive it. The SEC is going to take over.

is going to take over
seems to me its been well under way for a good while now. Was more under wraps, u can get away with alot more now!
Plus texas & oklahoma going in a few years. I mean thats insanity when it comes to the disparity between the rest oif us & the SEC.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

There are salary caps. MLB? Cap isn't for the individual it's for the collective. You can say each team of 85 players can make no more than X amount. Divide it up however you want. Much like a team allotted 12 scholarships for a roster of 50 players.

Ah, but that's a salary cap.

NIL is endorsement money. Endorsements aren't salary. A salary cap comparison doesn't apply.

There aren't limits on endorsements.

Can you name a circumstance where there's a limit on endorsements on anyone else in the world that limits how much they can profit from their own personal identity?

 

[UnderHisOwnPower]

For the nations #1 recruiting class, it will cost you $30M.

Texas A&M Boosters Spent Unfathomable Amount Of Money To Land No. 1 Recruiting Class, Per Report

Getty Image / iStockphoto Head coach Jimbo Fisher and the Texas A&M Aggies signed one of the best recruiting classes of all-time this year. To do so,

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we should all be cheering. One more nail in the NCAA coffin, good riddance. And I think it is misleading to say the schools are doing this, to say this is an athletic department and university program/policy. It is not, these are alums pooling their money according to the current rules of compnesating players to help promote their brand, the Universities football program as a source of pride. If you've ever spent any time in the south, TX specifically, every town, every middle school for that matter has a field/stadium on par with Holy Cross or SUNY Albany. They invest in infrastructure and facilities first and as a matter of priority, it's for the community and they value team sports much more so than the NE. It is what it is, invest or perish, now that it is being done in broad daylight doesn't all of a sudden make it sinister.

 

[Fly Rodder]

There's a few thousand players that bubble up from HS every year. This is the wild west right now, but they can't buy every player every year. Also, this is probably fun for boosters right now as well, but they want wins and they also didn't get rich by giving away piles of their money every year.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Your defense is passionate but I'm just spit balling here...and yeah I think limitations can be made.

I appreciate you're spitballing. I just think you're looking to solve something that isn't actually a problem.

When that happens, the solutions proposed usually sound good to the people that aren't actually materially impacted.

 

[hoopsupstate]

If this is true, are they going to be able to come up with &30 million every year? Maybe once, not every year.

 

[Cuse#1]

This has been happening for years, the SEC is already in charge, and we’ll survive. It’s just out in the open now.

It will end with some weird 15 team “premiere” league model. I don’t pay that much attention to those teams now - I won’t then.

Tooks the words right out of my mouth. The ACC will survive if no one panics or gets greedy.
UNC is where they should be.
Miami IMO will be back to old form
Clemson is clemson
& then there's FSU. IDK if that coach will last. I think deion sanders is an inevitability. He's an alum, legend,
if there's mutual interest the boosters the get him there!
Thats pretty top heavy with alot of good teams/potential behind them so i hope for the best!!

 

[All4SU]

There is an old expression that college sports is about the name on the front of the jersey and pro sports is about the name on the back.

I think this moves us away from that. Too bad.

 

[Fly Rodder]

I think this moves us away from that. Too bad.

College sports has been steadily and, more recently, rapidly moving away from that since the 60s and the introduction of TV money.

 

[PhatOrange]

I appreciate you're spitballing. I just think you're looking to solve something that isn't actually a problem.

When that happens, the solutions proposed usually sound good to the people that aren't actually materially impacted.

Regardless it's open to discussion.

Why can't there be limits on endorsements? Could the kids' at state schools be viewed as state employees where there are caps on wages?

and while the kid is selling his image and his likeness he's only able to do it because of the school he's at and the jersey he's wearing.

 

[UpstateSM]

At least the kids and their families can get some money in their pockets before their DC tries to kill them

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Why can't there be limits on endorsements?

Because as far as I'm aware there's no other circumstance in the world where endorsements for a person are limited. What's so special about US student-athletes and their sports that there would be an exception? The answer is nothing.

Could the kids' at state schools could be viewed as state employees where there are caps on wages?

No.

And while the kid is selling his image and his likeness he's only able to do it because of the school he's at and the jersey he's wearing.

That's completely not true.

 

[kuethstheman]

Even though payments have been made forever and this is just getting it out in the open, I think it will make the disparity significantly worse. I believe (maybe I'm naive?) that at least some stars that came to Syracuse didn't go to high-paying schools because payments were unethical and illegal. That's over and that type of player may not be coming to Syracuse anymore.

 

[CousCuse]

When is the Manchurian commissioner of the ACC going to get ESPN to cough up more money so the ACC teams have a better chance to compete in this arms race?

 

[OrangeTarheel]

I imagine this also affects the prep schools known for producing great college football players. IMG comes to mind but there are lots of others. Get into one of those academies and you’re on your way to making big money at the right school.

 

[RandomGuy]

While being called endorsements, I'm looking at this as a multiy year salary contract, paid by boosters. I imagine there is a legal argument that would classify these players as employees.

Many years ago I was paid as a subcontractor; with a 1099. I was really just an employee. Pay was the higher subcontractor rate, paid my full 14% SS etc... I believe this is illegal, now. My employer could avoid filing his share of my SS, unemployment tax, insurances, liabilities, etc... I personally loved it, but the government did not. I dont see how these multi year "salaries" aren't put under the same lense. At that point, I think the players will all be classified as employees.

 

[TheCusian]

we should all be cheering. One more nail in the NCAA coffin, good riddance. And I think it is misleading to say the schools are doing this, to say this is an athletic department and university program/policy. It is not, these are alums pooling their money according to the current rules of compnesating players to help promote their brand, the Universities football program as a source of pride. If you've ever spent any time in the south, TX specifically, every town, every middle school for that matter has a field/stadium on par with Holy Cross or SUNY Albany. They invest in infrastructure and facilities first and as a matter of priority, it's for the community and they value team sports much more so than the NE. It is what it is, invest or perish, now that it is being done in broad daylight doesn't all of a sudden make it sinister.

This is correct and is an outcome based on lack of control at the top. There is no steering entity capable of dealing with where a segment of schools (or boosters of those schools) want it to go.

Sinister? No. In fact, daylight prob helps. Good for the sport nationally? No. Good for the unpaid labor force that has helped grow the sport into what it is Probably. Good for the pocketbooks of coaches and administrators? Undoubtedly, always.

 

[TheCusian]

College sports has been steadily and, more recently, rapidly moving away from that since the 60s and the introduction of TV money.

I think this is right, but folks like Herbie and others are trying to paint players being greedy and not caring about football as the problem. But it’s incredibly hypocritical for any ESPN talking head to make this claim.

A sport once built on education and fair play is now built on labor that isn’t compensated to the level it should. TV money is what blew it up. That is greedy folks at the top levels.

 

[AZOrange]

If this is true, are they going to be able to come up with &30 million every year? Maybe once, not every year.

I seriously doubt the veracity of that article.

 

[All4SU]

College sports has been steadily and, more recently, rapidly moving away from that since the 60s and the introduction of TV money.

Hmmm… maybe the 80s and 90s. But IMO 60s/70s were prior to the types of problems we are seeing now. JMO.

 

[alphaorange]

Because as far as I'm aware there's no other circumstance in the world where endorsements for a person are limited. What's so special about US student-athletes and their sports that there would be an exception? The answer is nothing.


No.


That's completely not true.

Really? The school and jersey are what allows him access to that amount of cash. Are you saying a 5 star QB going to Northwest Southeastern U will get the same money as that same kid going to A$M? If I am getting what you are saying, you are completely wrong. There is only a couple of handfuls of schools where a kid has the opportunity for that amount of money.

 

[mscanlo]

Also it's good for the money to be going to the student-athlete.

how is "the money" going to the student-athlete? this isn't the ncaa nor school's money going to the athlete as the NIL intended. this is booster money going straight to the athlete.

 

[SUFan44]

This is absolutely ridiculous.