I believe a free education (and stipend) is sufficient compensation. Just not in the system that exists. I believe the system went too far down the wrong road and has to be brought back to something resembling a student/athlete model - without players who believe they should be playing pro sports immediately.
That doesn't make any sense. You can stand in the river, go home for lunch and go back and stand in the river until supper.
So what about the system that does exist?
Well, considering the “current system” has blown up in the last two years, it’s difficult to know what that system really is. But I’ve seen enough to know I don’t like it. And I don’t think players are happy with just getting scholarships. That’s why perhaps those players shouldn’t be in college.
If one stands down river from Buddha, is he in the same river?
This made me think of something; what if the XFL does succeed and they eventually pivot their direction from players who are just missing the NFL scouting team cuts to players fresh out of high school?
Why should players either be happy with just be happy with what they're getting or not attend?
The way things are going, you’re probably right. And this has been on my mind.
True didn’t think of that. There has to be a way to fix it somehow.
I've honestly been to an FCS game more recently than a Syracuse game (a schedule / location thing, not a principle thing) and enjoyed myself just as much.
I went to an FCS school, Mercer, so I get a nice mix with them and SU. Mercer is fun to watch for the more "pure" aspect, for lack of a better term
I went to a Cornell v Princeton game once. Had a ball. But allegiances die hard. And I’ve invested a lot emotionally into SU over the decades. And it’s my alma mater. It’s difficult to walk away. Especially when I believe it doesn’t have to be like this.
I don't actually expect you to stop rooting for Syracuse, nor do I think you should. And for the record, I don't like how the sport is trending either - I actually think paying players under some form of contract will stabilize things.
So, just for the sake of a fair discussion, there are a handful of DIV 1 athletes who truly see the benefit of a legitimate college degree. The rest are in it for the opportunity to play professional sports and make some $$. Why not have the colleges and universities just create a college degree program that might require a few basic class requirements, but the bulk of the degree would only be performance on the field of play. Everybody would see it for what it is (and I'm not saying that negatively) and we would take the element of hypocrisy out of the equation.
Have a default degree in Phys Ed / some kind of education with a guarantee to fund a semester of student teaching. Seems like a happy compromise, with all of the exposure they have to lecture and performance.
NIL contract would have to be between the company (not the school) and the player. If the kid breached the contract, the NIL company could sue him. The school would discourage that because it would impact recruiting. (SU’s NIL group sued a Joe for sitting out a bowl game). Plus, how do you show damages. Kid could have been the cause of a loss and his NIL value to the company could have yanked.
By the colleges. A bit of sharing would have gone a long way. In general, big changes are had when one group coalesces and says: “we have had enough.”
I would say that most college FB guys are there to keep playing as long as they can and get a degree. Most aren’t delusional about their pro prospects. Basketball, on the other had…
Again, a "default degree" perpetuates the hypocrisy. I don't think a phys ed degree is ultra demanding, but the kids at Cortland who pursue it legitimately might take offense to someone who gets it handed to them just because they are an athlete.
How so? A full time schedule is 15 hours of lecture a week. Players spend at least 40 on football activities.
Thta's fine. Let the two groups chose what degree path they want to follow.
You missed my initial point. No class work other than a few basic courses. All other time would be spent developing their "major" (ie football or basketball). That's their career objective.
What part of this aligns with the educational mission of a college or university? It is bad enough that otherwise fine schools have long ago sold their academic souls to be in the entertainment business, but this would remove any pretense whatsoever that education was involved.
As I understand it, you are okay with colleges, the NCAA, the NCAA tournament, the Bowl games and college football playoffs, and video game companies making money from the name, image and likeness of college athletes, but not the athletes themselves. Is that correct, because that is what you prefer. Take your scholarships and shut up while everyone around you makes money off your athletic efforts AND your name, your image, and your likeness.
