This is why you play Shrader…

[TheCusian]

"Revaluate their positions on TD by the end of the season"

Really? After his fifth year in the program. Honestly, I have never seen such leeway for a kid who has been given every opportunity to be QB1 who's best attribute is he can win the prize at the football toss at the carnival.

Tommy has been here more YEARS than GS has played games and we want to keep giving rope to Tommy.

I've literally never seen anything like this with any other player in my life.

I don’t know how to explain this in any other way. If you’re evaluating TD using the OL from 2019 and 2020 it’s flawed data. It doesn’t tell us that much. No QB, Shrader or Dungey makes anything out of that OL play. He is a flawed QB as I’ve stated many, many times.

The 5 years in the program thing is a silly argument. Go by starts - he was behind Eric his first year and he was injured both years he won QB1.

I’m not sure GS has enough to get us to 6 wins. I hope he does, as I don’t think platooning is good for the team… but we’re going to need TD’s arm. And I think he’ll come through.

Hope my belief in our players doesn’t cause you any more distress lol

 

[capeorange]

I don’t know how to explain this in any other way. If you’re evaluating TD using the OL from 2019 and 2020 it’s flawed data. It doesn’t tell us that much. No QB, Shrader or Dungey makes anything out of that OL play. He is a flawed QB as I’ve stated many, many times.

The 5 years in the program thing is a silly argument. Go by starts - he was behind Eric his first year and he was injured both years he won QB1.

I’m not sure GS has enough to get us to 6 wins. I hope he does, as I don’t think platooning is good for the team… but we’re going to need TD’s arm. And I think he’ll come through.

Hope my belief in our players doesn’t cause you any more distress lol

TD got sacked 5 or 6 times vs Rutgers this year. Is it all on the o line?

 

[RandomGuy]

I don’t know how to explain this in any other way. If you’re evaluating TD using the OL from 2019 and 2020 it’s flawed data. It doesn’t tell us that much. No QB, Shrader or Dungey makes anything out of that OL play. He is a flawed QB as I’ve stated many, many times.

^^^^^^^

 

[RandomGuy]

TD got sacked 5 or 6 times vs Rutgers this year. Is it all on the o line?

Tommy was sacked 4 times on 31 drop backs. 12.9% of the time
Garret was sacked once, in 9 drop backs. 11.1% of the time.

Tommys adjusted completed % 68%
Garrets. 57.1%

Box score, Tommy with 9 rushes for 13 yards, long of 20
Garrett with 4 rushes for -6 yards, long of 2.

Designed qb runs.
Tommy with 3 for 43 yards
Garrett with 2 for -1 yards

They each had 1 completion when blitzed. 3 of Garretts completions were under pressure, where only 1 of Tommys was.

 

[capeorange]

Tommy was sacked 4 times on 31 drop backs. 12.9% of the time
Garret was sacked once, in 9 drop backs. 11.1% of the time.

Tommys adjusted completed % 68%
Garrets. 57.1%

Box score, Tommy with 9 rushes for 13 yards, long of 20
Garrett with 4 rushes for -6 yards, long of 2.

Designed qb runs.
Tommy with 3 for 43 yards
Garrett with 2 for -1 yards

They each had 1 completion when blitzed. 3 of Garretts completions were under pressure, where only 1 of Tommys was.

Tommy was sacked 5 times or 16.12% of the time.

Syracuse QB Tommy DeVito assesses competition with Garrett Shrader: 'I've done exactly what I've needed to do'

Syracuse's Tommy DeVito assess QB competition with Garrett Shrader: 'I've done exactly what I've needed to do'

247sports.com

 

[DoctorBombay]

Tommy was sacked 4 times on 31 drop backs. 12.9% of the time
Garret was sacked once, in 9 drop backs. 11.1% of the time.

Tommys adjusted completed % 68%
Garrets. 57.1%

Box score, Tommy with 9 rushes for 13 yards, long of 20
Garrett with 4 rushes for -6 yards, long of 2.

Designed qb runs.
Tommy with 3 for 43 yards
Garrett with 2 for -1 yards

They each had 1 completion when blitzed. 3 of Garretts completions were under pressure, where only 1 of Tommys was.

Tommy is a good QB with a great arm, but little to no pocket presence when rushed. He’s shown this flaw over and over again.
“Sliding to avoid a sack” or “improvising to gain & not lose yards” is not a measured stat. GS did BOTH of those things vs Liberty. All the stats in the world mean nothing if the QB doesn’t possess the raw ability to at least mitigate for a porous OL or WR’s that can’t get open. Tommy, the text book signal-caller, excels when the play goes, well…textbook. Our deficiencies do not allow for this to happen more than maybe 70% of the time, and that’s being generous!
We need a QB with more than a strong arm, putting up lofty stats, but limited in most other aspects of the position.
Not saying GS is Tim Tebow, but that was another QB with limited QB skills, who nevertheless won big in cfb by playing to his strengths. Compared to TD, GS is better, imo, at movement in the pocket, avoiding rushes, and “matriculating the ball down the field” as the late Hank Stram once said.
That’s what this team needs- not another season of pretty stats, nice-looking throws, and minimal wins. JMHO

 

[721Comstock]

Tommy is a good QB with a great arm, but little to no pocket presence when rushed. He’s shown this flaw over and over again.
“Sliding to avoid a sack” or “improvising to gain & not lose yards” is not a measured stat. GS did BOTH of those things vs Liberty. All the stats in the world mean nothing if the QB doesn’t possess the raw ability to at least mitigate for a porous OL or WR’s that can’t get open. Tommy, the text book signal-caller, excels when the play goes, well…textbook. Our deficiencies do not allow for this to happen more than maybe 70% of the time, and that’s being generous!
We need a QB with more than a strong arm, putting up lofty stats, but limited in most other aspects of the position.
Not saying GS is Tim Tebow, but that was another QB with limited QB skills, who nevertheless won big in cfb by playing to his strengths. Compared to TD, GS is better, imo, at movement in the pocket, avoiding rushes, and “matriculating the ball down the field” as the late Hank Stram once said.
That’s what this team needs- not another season of pretty stats, nice-looking throws, and minimal wins. JMHO

IF we could graft Tommy's arm onto Shrader's body, we'd have an AA QB!!